The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[The Monkey King]

Krillin vs Buu arc SSJ Vegito

Well Krillin did push back SSJB Goku's Kamehameha which makes him at least SSJG-tier which is universe level in power... So be probabaly stomps Vegito with ease tbh

[AvatarReiko]

Krillin beats Vegito around mid diff. He can hang with SSJ blue Goku

[Lord Beerus]

Krillin beats Vegito around mid diff. He can hang with SSJ blue Goku

Yeah, because it's not like Goku can perfectly control his ki and can drastically hold back in power as SSJB.

[Hugo Boss]

Exclusive to Super, perhaps Tagoma or Basil.

Tagoma (post training) completely stomped Piccolo who's leagues above Namek Frieza.

Basil is at least Perfect Cell tier in his normal form.

I'm talking about Super. Piccolo is defeated by someone who is barely above Ginyu Force level and is no match for Frost. And Kuririn without prep can trade blows with Basil. Cell isn't a bit fazed by his attacks.

[Ki Breaker]

Krillin beats Vegito around mid diff. He can hang with SSJ blue Goku

Yeah, because it's not like Goku can perfectly control his ki and can drastically hold back in power as SSJB.

Why you think he was holding back? Goku was clearly struggling as an SSB he even went kaioken time 9001 off-screen while Krillin was not even trying...
Jeez how you guys miss that

Krillin vs Buu arc SSJ Vegito

Vegetto, don't ask me for reasons, if it's not clear as day I can't possibly convince you otherwise

[dragon boss z]

Botamo, base Cabba, and ssj Goten/Trunks imo.

How the heck would Freeza beat Goten and Trunks? And please don't say 'he blows the planet up'.

Imo he is just outright stronger than them. And even if he wasn't he is just a better and smarter fighter. Base Goten and Trunks were about equal with Frieza first for opponents, which means they were weaker than Namek Goku, hense weaker than 100% Frieza even as ssj.

[dragon boss z]

Fights:

South Kaioshin vs SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.
Kibitoshin vs Tagoma [After training].
Daio Kaioshin vs Dabra.
West Kaioshin vs Perfect Cell [vs Goku].
North Kaioshin vs SSJ Goku [vs Cell].
Elder Kaioshin vs Gohan [after 3 year training for the Androids].

No magic or special abilities.

South Kaioshin

Kibitoshin

Daio Kaioshin

Perfect Cell

SSJ Goku

Even a baby could beat the elder Kaioshin, lol

[Ki Breaker]

SS4 vs Base goku Rof

[DanielSSJ]

Imo he is just outright stronger than them. And even if he wasn't he is just a better and smarter fighter. Base Goten and Trunks were about equal with Frieza first for opponents, which means they were weaker than Namek Goku, hense weaker than 100% Frieza even as ssj.

Really? They had enough power that a suppressed Ki blast was enough to scare the shit out of No. 18, and they were deemed worthy enough sparring partners for Vegeta and Gohan. I tend to put them lower than most, but having them below Freeza seems wonky to me. At the very least I'd say they're around No 18's level.

[Berserker1921]

SS4 vs Base goku Rof

I personally have final form Frieza as buuhan level plus. While I have goku as ssj Vegito Level (buu). So I think ssj4 could win. If he plays smart. Which he could win since he has 15+ years over that goku in experience.

[dragon boss z]

Imo he is just outright stronger than them. And even if he wasn't he is just a better and smarter fighter. Base Goten and Trunks were about equal with Frieza first for opponents, which means they were weaker than Namek Goku, hense weaker than 100% Frieza even as ssj.

Really? They had enough power that a suppressed Ki blast was enough to scare the shit out of No. 18, and they were deemed worthy enough sparring partners for Vegeta and Gohan. I tend to put them lower than most, but having them below Freeza seems wonky to me. At the very least I'd say they're around No 18's level.

Pretty sure I've been over this with you before. The way I see it 18 wasn't afraid of their power, she was just completely caught off guard that the kids were that strong. And Trunks wasn't enough to be Vegeta's sparring partner. If Vegeta was serious he would of one shotted him. Ya, Goten was able to push Gohan a bit, but that was a rusty Gohan.

I mean just watch/read the fight between Goku and Frieza and Trunks and Goten. The Goku vs Frieza fight was on a completely different level.

[Gog]

Broly V Hatchiyak V Super Android 13

[The gr]

Exclusive to Super, perhaps Tagoma or Basil.

Tagoma (post training) completely stomped Piccolo who's leagues above Namek Frieza.

Basil is at least Perfect Cell tier in his normal form.

I'm talking about Super. Piccolo is defeated by someone who is barely above Ginyu Force level and is no match for Frost. And Kuririn without prep can trade blows with Basil. Cell isn't a bit fazed by his attacks.

the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil,so your downplay Don't work here

[Gog]

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

[dragonball0900]

Pretty sure I've been over this with you before. The way I see it 18 wasn't afraid of their power, she was just completely caught off guard that the kids were that strong. And Trunks wasn't enough to be Vegeta's sparring partner. If Vegeta was serious he would of one shotted him. Ya, Goten was able to push Gohan a bit, but that was a rusty Gohan.

I mean just watch/read the fight between Goku and Frieza and Trunks and Goten. The Goku vs Frieza fight was on a completely different level.

Goten and Trunks are able to do feats that Android 18 could never do. And Android 18 already knew that the kids were SSJs, even before the ki blast was thrown, she would know that they were strong. But instead, she was shocked, that implies that she was indeed scared of their power, and that was a suppressed ki blast from Trunks, if it was at full power then I might agree with you, but it wasn't full power.

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

Going by my numbers, I have SSJ4 Gohan winning.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Goku (DBS manga) vs. Goku (DBS anime)

[Khin]

Goku (DBS manga) vs. Goku (DBS anime)

Anime Goku because Kaio-ken. Heck, the manga’s Super Saiyan Blue has stamina problems, so anime Goku would probably eventually win even with just his blue form.

[dragon boss z]

Goten and Trunks are able to do feats that Android 18 could never do.

Such as?

And Android 18 already knew that the kids were SSJs, even before the ki blast was thrown, she would know that they were strong. But instead, she was shocked, that implies that she was indeed scared of their power, and that was a suppressed ki blast from Trunks, if it was at full power then I might agree with you, but it wasn't full power.

Ya, but as we know ssj doesn't automatically mean you are a certain strength. I'm pretty sure anyone would be surprised that kids could casually shoot nuke level blasts out. And I believe this is something that is an opinion. I personally don't think there is enough info to say for certain who is stronger.

[Hugo Boss]

Tagoma (post training) completely stomped Piccolo who's leagues above Namek Frieza.

Basil is at least Perfect Cell tier in his normal form.

I'm talking about Super. Piccolo is defeated by someone who is barely above Ginyu Force level and is no match for Frost. And Kuririn without prep can trade blows with Basil. Cell isn't a bit fazed by his attacks.

the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil, so your downplay Don't work here

Which image? What is this comment about? Sensing someone's energy is not the only way to guess strength. Once Basil showed his skills they could get a notion of how strong he is. The only thing they got wrong is that Kuririn is better than they thought, which is actually implied in this episode.

[Freeza9000]

Goku (DBS manga) vs. Goku (DBS anime)

Manga Goku loses pretty badly.