The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:34 pm

Finial form Freeza V Kirito.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:08 am

Gog wrote:Finial form Freeza V Kirito.
Frieza kills him unless he is trapped in the game

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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:24 am

Gog wrote:Finial form Freeza V Kirito.
Do you mean Kibito? If so Freeza just needs to use 50% of his power to win.

Fights:

SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
Android 18 vs Basil.
Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:28 am

ZombieVito wrote:
Gog wrote:Finial form Freeza V Kirito.
Do you mean Kibito? If so Freeza just needs to use 50% of his power to win.

Fights:

SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
Android 18 vs Basil.
Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].
I meant Kirito, from SAO

SSJ Trunks crushes SSJ Goten, he's just far too skilled in comparison.

SSJ Vegeta crushes SSJ Trunks, he's just far too skilled in comparison.

Basil knocks her head off, he was fighting against Majin Buu.

Present Zamasu either kills Buu, or gets adsorbed.

Android 20 gets stomped by Goku, who is nearly 50% Freeza at this point in time.

Android 19 gets stomped by Gohan, who is nearing 50% Freeza at this point in time

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:33 am

Hugo Boss wrote:
The gr wrote: the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil, so your downplay Don't work here
Which image? What is this comment about? Sensing someone's energy is not the only way to guess strength. Once Basil showed his skills they could get a notion of how strong he is. The only thing they got wrong is that Kuririn is better than they thought, which is actually implied in this episode.
The "image" he is talking about is the image fighting/mind battling Goku and Gohan did to determine if Krillin was up for the task in ep 83.
You are right of course, they can judge Basil on his movements and use that to compare with Krillin.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:42 am

dragon boss z wrote:Ya, but as we know ssj doesn't automatically mean you are a certain strength. I'm pretty sure anyone would be surprised that kids could casually shoot nuke level blasts out. And I believe this is something that is an opinion. I personally don't think there is enough info to say for certain who is stronger.
I think the fact that No. 18 straight-up says “This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!" and procedes to use a highly lethal technique like the Kienzan on the kids implies that they're at least within the same range as her.
ZombieVito wrote:Fights:

SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
Android 18 vs Basil.
Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].
- I don't think the kids are quite on that level just yet. Even if Goten was that strong, Future Trunks would still be an all-around more competent fighter.
- Same result as above.
- Super, pass.
- ^^^^^^^^^^
- I assume that Goku and Gero would be roughly on the same level, but Goku's incredibly skilled and Piccolo already established that the trained martial artists get more omph out of their power than the Androids would. As long as he remembers their energy absorption ability, he shouldn't have too many problems.
- Likewise, Gohan's porobaby around as strong as No. 19, but unlike Goku, he's super rusty and inept after lollygagging for seven years. Gohan does have an advantage, being a trained martial artist, he's goimg to have a tough time of it.
Gog wrote:I meant Kirito, from SAO
How the hell woukd Kirito who, while good at kendo, is a normal teenage gamer beat an intergalctic warlord who can wipe out entire planets with a literal flick of his finger?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:22 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
Gog wrote:I meant Kirito, from SAO
How the hell woukd Kirito who, while good at kendo, is a normal teenage gamer beat an intergalctic warlord who can wipe out entire planets with a literal flick of his finger?
Through the power of plot contrivances. Also Freeza and Kirito are both in SAO

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:37 am

Gog wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:
Gog wrote:I meant Kirito, from SAO
How the hell woukd Kirito who, while good at kendo, is a normal teenage gamer beat an intergalctic warlord who can wipe out entire planets with a literal flick of his finger?
Through the power of plot contrivances. Also Freeza and Kirito are both in SAO
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:49 am

Goku V Samurai Jack.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The gr » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:29 am

dbgtFO wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
The gr wrote: the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil, so your downplay Don't work here
Which image? What is this comment about? Sensing someone's energy is not the only way to guess strength. Once Basil showed his skills they could get a notion of how strong he is. The only thing they got wrong is that Kuririn is better than they thought, which is actually implied in this episode.
The "image" he is talking about is the image fighting/mind battling Goku and Gohan did to determine if Krillin was up for the task in ep 83.
You are right of course, they can judge Basil on his movements and use that to compare with Krillin.
But didn't episode 79, stated, that goku and Gohan can't sense the U9 figthers, and there are hard to scale,so I really Don't believe That krillin is not even close to him, since there is no statement to back this up,so just because they saw Basil movement, that doesn't mean, they know how strong he is, That is equivalent of saying This scenario, second form frieza sees krillin really strong based on his movements, through he can't sense him and he not even close to his own strength, and is just really frieza speculation,
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    Post by Vegetes » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:55 am

    ZombieVito wrote:
    Gog wrote:Finial form Freeza V Kirito.
    Do you mean Kibito? If so Freeza just needs to use 50% of his power to win.

    Fights:

    SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
    SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
    Android 18 vs Basil.
    Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
    Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
    Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].

    1. Well Goten is a sperm, while Trunks is a baby, sooooo... Trunks stomps.

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    Post by dbgtFO » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:05 am

    The gr wrote: But didn't episode 79, stated, that goku and Gohan can't sense the U9 figthers, and there are hard to scale,so I really Don't believe That krillin is not even close to him, since there is no statement to back this up,so just because they saw Basil movement, that doesn't mean, they know how strong he is, That is equivalent of saying This scenario, second form frieza sees krillin really strong based on his movements, through he can't sense him and he not even close to his own strength, and is just really frieza speculation,
      anyways ssj2 Black pre zenkai vs present zamasu Anime
      They can't sense him, yes, but as I said they can judge by the characters' movements, which is also what they did back in the Buu arc, when figuring out Dabra's strength and probably also some instances in earlier arcs, but I can't recall at the moment.

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      Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:00 am

      Super Saiyan Goku (Frieza Saga) vs. Present Zamasu. (Both are at 1.15 billion.)

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      Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

      Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:19 am

      Gog wrote:Through the power of plot contrivances. Also Freeza and Kirito are both in SAO
      Okay. Kirito beats Freeza in the game, the NervGear tries to fry Freeza's brain, which doesn't work since the guy can literally survive planetary explosions after being vivisected, and Freeza either hunts down Kirito in real life and kills him, or he just blows up the planet and leaves.
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      Post by apex_pretador » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:58 am

      AvatarReiko wrote:Current Krillin vs Perfect Cell
      Cell stomps. Krillin is still weaker than #18
      The Monkey King wrote:Krillin vs Buu arc SSJ Vegito

      Well Krillin did push back SSJB Goku's Kamehameha which makes him at least SSJG-tier which is universe level in power... So be probabaly stomps Vegito with ease tbh

      Vegetto stomps. Krillin is still weaker than #18
      Ki Breaker wrote:SS4 vs Base goku Rof
      SS4 wins easily.
      ZombieVito wrote:
      Gog wrote:Finial form Freeza V Kirito.
      Do you mean Kibito? If so Freeza just needs to use 50% of his power to win.

      Fights:

      SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
      SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
      Android 18 vs Basil.
      Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
      Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
      Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].
      Trunks > Goten.

      Vegeta IMO is a better fighter and has more experience. While they are essentially equals in power, the fighting skills would break the tie.

      Basil one-shots

      Buu turns him to candy

      Dr Gero low difficulty. He was stated to be stronger than vegeta who had more than half power.

      #19 wins high difficulty. If it was goku, I would have to reconsider.
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      Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

      Post by pacz360 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:08 am

      Hugo Boss wrote:
      The gr wrote:
      Hugo Boss wrote: I'm talking about Super. Piccolo is defeated by someone who is barely above Ginyu Force level and is no match for Frost. And Kuririn without prep can trade blows with Basil. Cell isn't a bit fazed by his attacks.
      the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil, so your downplay Don't work here
      Which image? What is this comment about? Sensing someone's energy is not the only way to guess strength. Once Basil showed his skills they could get a notion of how strong he is. The only thing they got wrong is that Kuririn is better than they thought, which is actually implied in this episode.
      Basil still stomped krillin in that image training krillin had to relied on techniques and tactics in that fight and couldn't even scratch basil when the dust was cleared and no piccolo did not get nerfed so get that crap outta of here.

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      Post by pacz360 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:09 am

      dragon boss z wrote:
      Ki Breaker wrote:Strongest character in super namek freeza can beat
      Botamo, base Cabba, and ssj Goten/Trunks imo.
      Hell no they can stomp his ass with ease.

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      Post by pacz360 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:10 am

      TheUltimateNinja wrote:
      DanielSSJ wrote:
      dragon boss z wrote:Botamo, base Cabba, and ssj Goten/Trunks imo.
      How the heck would Freeza beat Goten and Trunks? And please don't say 'he blows the planet up'.
      That can't be the reason, even Goku and Vegeta would die to planet busting.
      Mainly cause they can't breath in space.

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      Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:43 pm

      Super Saiyan Blue Vegito vs Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black
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      Post by Gog » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:02 pm

      Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Super Saiyan Blue Vegito vs Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black
      Super Saiyan Blue Vegito, is just too strong. He easily crushes Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black.

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