The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Buutenks vs. 1-10% power Beerus

Bootenks get instantly wasted. Goku thought that fusing with Vegeta wouldn't be enough to defeat Beerus. And the Beerus that he fought initially on King Kai's Planet wasn't even using a fraction of a fraction of his strength. So anything that Vegetto, by extension Gogeta through at Beerus, wouldn't be enough to defeat a heavily suppressed Beers. And both Gogeta and Vegetto are stronger than anything that Bootenks can dish out.

[Noah]

How strong would be these characters if they got the same boost Gohan received after Elder Kai's Unlock Ability?

Mutenroshi
Chaozu
Yajirobe
Yamcha
Tenshinhan
Krillin
Android 18
Android 17
Goten
Trunks
Piccolo
Vegeta
Goku

[Berserker1921]

How strong would be these characters if they got the same boost Gohan received after Elder Kai's Unlock Ability?

Mutenroshi
Chaozu
Yajirobe
Yamcha
Tenshinhan
Krillin
Android 18
Android 17
Goten
Trunks
Piccolo
Vegeta
Goku

Roshi- Ginyu Level at best.
Chaoz- zarbon level
Yajirobe- raccoome
Yamaha- third form Frieza
Tien/Krillin- 50% -100% final form Frieza at best
17/18- ssj2 Gohan Level. Maybe majin vegeta.
Goten/Trunks- I think they have way more potential then Gohan ever did. I mean look at future trunks. But I suspect. Base Vegito level or buuhan level.
Piccolo- my best guess. Ssj3 goku Level. Maybe super Buu.
Goku/Vegeta- if this was before super. I say goku Super Buu Level and vegeta ssj 3 goku. But after super, I say they would reach closer to Beerus level.

[dragonball0900]

How strong would be these characters if they got the same boost Gohan received after Elder Kai's Unlock Ability?

Mutenroshi
Chaozu
Yajirobe
Yamcha
Tenshinhan
Krillin
Android 18
Android 17
Goten
Trunks
Piccolo
Vegeta
Goku

I'm going to be refering to the Buu arc versions of the characters.

I'd put Roshi at early Nappa level, 4,000.

Chiaotzu, at Android Arc Gohan level, 4,000,000.

Yamcha, at 9,000,000.

Tenshinhan, at 25% Final Form Frieza, 30,000,000.

Krillin would be like around 36,000,000.

The Androids would be surpassing SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Probably reaching Fat Buu.

Piccolo and the kids would be well above SSJ3 Goku, but still below Super Buu.

Goku and Vegeta would surpass Ultimate Gohan, and probably reaching Buutenks and Buuhan. With luck, they might even reach the powerful Vegetto.

[Noah]

Roshi- Ginyu Level at best...

I'm going to be refering to the Buu arc versions of the characters.

Have you guys applied the same math (Gohan received ''x boost'', so Roshi + ''x boost'' = ?) or these are just guesses?

[DanielSSJ]

How strong would be these characters if they got the same boost Gohan received after Elder Kai's Unlock Ability?

First off, the power boost that I'm using will be based off of the characters' maximum power. This is because of how Gohan's Super Saiyan/Super Saiyan 2 strength was seemingly incorporated into his Ultimate Form. For example Ultimate Gohan's strength (BP: 180 billion) divided by SS2 Teen Gohan's strength (BP: 6 billion) equates to roughly a thirty fold increase in strength. Second, I'm using the Boo Arc iteration of each character. With all this in mind, here we go:
- Buff Muten Roshi: 5,000 ---> 150,000
- Chiaotzu: 45,000 ---> 1,350,000
- Yajirobe: 970 ---> 2,910
- Yamcha: 80,000 ---> 2,400,000
- Tenshinhan: 150,000 ---> 4,500,000
- Kuririn: 200,000 ---> 6,000,000
- Android No. 18: 325 million ---> 9.75 billion
- Android No. 17: 350 million ---> 10.5 billion
- Super Saiyan Son Goten (post RoSaT): 1 billion ---> 30 billion
- Super Saiyan Trunks (post RoSaT): 1.1 billion ---> 33 billion
- Piccolo: 1.8 billion ---> 54 billion
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta: 9 billion ---> 270 billion
- Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku: 36 billion ---> 1.08 trillion

[dragonball0900]

Have you guys applied the same math (Gohan received ''x boost'', so Roshi + ''x boost'' = ?) or these are just guesses?

No guesses, I used the same multiplier I had with Gohan's boost. Note that I forgot Roshi's Buff form, in that he would be at Goku (no kaioken against Ginyu) level.

[Mattdos]

LSSJ Broly Vs. GT SSJ Kid Goku

[Gog]

Botamo V Magnetta

[Mattdos]

Botamo V Magnetta

I believe this will either end in a stalemate or Magetta winning. The two have no way of hurting each other, but I believe Botamo will get tired before Magetta does.
That or Botamo just calls Magetta a name and the Metal man will lose the will to fight and Botamo wins by default.

[DanielSSJ]

LSSJ Broly Vs. GT SSJ Kid Goku

If Goku can handle Boo level threats without transforming (as ridiculous as that is) he doesn't even need to move to Yamcha Broli.

[Mattdos]

LSSJ Broly Vs. GT SSJ Kid Goku

If Goku can handle Boo level threats without transforming (as ridiculous as that is) he doesn't even need to move to Yamcha Broli.

To be honest I forgot he fought Buu level threats while in his base. Honestly, sounds a little silly to think about.

[apex_pretador]

Fights:

Pre 25th TB Videl vs BoDB Goku.
Bora vs 21st TB Goku.
Mutaito vs 22nd TB Goku.
Gryll vs 23rd TB Goku.
Guldo vs Post Kaio Goku. No Kaioken or paralysis.
Shin vs CG SSJ Goku. No paralysis.

Goku kills videl accidentally and then kills spopovich and yamu.

This is about even. Both of them have about the same strength and durability, but goku has ki attacks and has more on-panel skill. I will go with Goku barely.

Mutaiuto is featless

Gryll who?

Guldo time-stops and kills goku.

Goku via instant-transmission kamehameha

New match:

- Current Krillin vs. Base Vegeta (Android arc)

Vegeta manhandles krillin but underestimates him and gets defeated.

That monster the Pride Troopers fought in the newest episode vs. Hirudegarn

The monster didn't seem impressive. I'd go with hirudegarn.

Super's Current Goku and Vegeta (Fusion Allowed) vs A.M.A.Z.O (Copying Ability Turned Off i.e. He cannot copy Goku and Vegeta)

A.M.A.Z.O

An advanced android is capable of duplicating the powers of metahumans and the abilities of non-powered individuals, including members of the Justice League (such as the strength of Superman or the speed of the Flash). The androids apparently retain the abilities of the original Justice League of America (Superman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and the Martian Manhunter)

Amazo drops them with TP

Buutenks vs. 1-10% power Beerus

SSG Goku lies between 1-10% beerus and he will fodderize SS3vegetto from BoG, where goku surpassed gohan.

[Nejishiki]

Grand Elder claimed that Piccolo would double his power with God? That doesn't sound quite right. At least, I recall Kuririn claiming a merging with God is useful due to Piccolo's continuous training. Not that it would be but I don't think it's a static level-up based on that observation (as Kuririn's reference & Piccolo's potential are fluid).

He didn't directly state that Piccolo would double his power, but he did state that Katatz's child had his power split in half when he split into Piccolo and Kami:

Chapter: 265 (DBZ 71), P3.4-5
Context: the Great Elder reads Kuririn’s mind and learns of God and Piccolo.
Great Elder: “Hmf! He split in two, long ago…after evil entered into him! How foolish… He diminished by half the genius power with which he was gifted at birth! If he had come back together as one, he might not have had to die…”

Alright, I thought as much. Grand Elder's assessment was unrelated to hard, numerical increases/decreases. The evil that God expelled was faint from the beginning & Piccolo Junior benefited from completion rather than lost values (as his strength grew from his own training). In that particular instance, unifying against the Saiyans may have benefited his natural martial arts growth to survive against them (the said "genius" application which was incomplete).

[ssbgoku]

(technically not a direct, "who would win" match but

How much stronger do you place ssjg Goku to ssj3 Vegito.

If we go by movie then around initial(40%) ssg goku bog movie so above 10% beerus easily.

If we go by anime then below 10% beerus who is supperior to ssg goku still. However especially ss3 vegetto could be compareable to even 80% of ssg goku

[Hellspawn28]

Doctor Manhattan enters Dragon Ball Super. Who is the strongest that he can defeat and who is the weakest that can defeat him.

[YajirobiTheGreat]

What if Chi-Chi was dropped off at Roshi's when Goku and Krillin were?

[Noah]

What if Chi-Chi was dropped off at Roshi's when Goku and Krillin were?

Wrong thread, mate

How strong would be these characters if they got the same boost Gohan received after Elder Kai's Unlock Ability?

First off, the power boost that I'm using will be based off of the characters' maximum power. This is because of how Gohan's Super Saiyan/Super Saiyan 2 strength was seemingly incorporated into his Ultimate Form. For example Ultimate Gohan's strength (BP: 180 billion) divided by SS2 Teen Gohan's strength (BP: 6 billion) equates to roughly a thirty fold increase in strength. Second, I'm using the Boo Arc iteration of each character. With all this in mind, here we go:
[spoiler]- Buff Muten Roshi: 5,000 ---> 150,000
- Chiaotzu: 45,000 ---> 1,350,000
- Yajirobe: 970 ---> 2,910
- Yamcha: 80,000 ---> 2,400,000
- Tenshinhan: 150,000 ---> 4,500,000
- Kuririn: 200,000 ---> 6,000,000
- Android No. 18: 325 million ---> 9.75 billion
- Android No. 17: 350 million ---> 10.5 billion
- Super Saiyan Son Goten (post RoSaT): 1 billion ---> 30 billion
- Super Saiyan Trunks (post RoSaT): 1.1 billion ---> 33 billion
- Piccolo: 1.8 billion ---> 54 billion
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta: 9 billion ---> 270 billion
- Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku: 36 billion ---> 1.08 trillion[/spoiler]

Interesting numbers, I know this might fit better in the Unofficial Power Leveal thread, but since we're here: ignoring RoF how much would you think Freeza and Cell would get if they achieved the same boost?

[Doctor.]

Hit and Black start at equal power, which one of the two can improve fast enough to fuck the other one over?

[Noah]

Hit and Black start at equal power, which one of the two can improve fast enough to fuck the other one over?

My bet is on Hit. He's a legendary assassin with centuries of experience and probably have a broad repertoire of deadly techniques that he didn't used on Goku because of the tournament rules. Although Black should know Hit and his Time-Skip thing I don't think he could take enough damage to survive, get stronger and overpower Hit.