The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by jeffbr92 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:06 pm

pacz360 wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:But Goku turn Blue against Krillin too man, so Krillin > Piccolo lol
Goku was holding back and testing him you know this
So the same thing he did against 17??
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:09 pm

F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku

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Post by pacz360 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:12 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:But Goku turn Blue against Krillin too man, so Krillin > Piccolo lol
Goku was holding back and testing him you know this
So the same thing he did against 17??
You mean where 17 push him to use it while he didn't intend to at all and while both were holding back said that dende was right 17 would be terrifying if he was an enemy in ssjb while with krillin it obvious that goku was holding back on him and didn't have any problems in base let alone ssj.

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Post by AvatarReiko » Mon May 01, 2017 4:15 am

Hit vd Buuhan

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Post by Ki Breaker » Mon May 01, 2017 6:52 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Hit vd Buuhan
Buuhan
Hear me out, hit might be stronger than buuhan by a ton but hit specializes in assassination, which is impossible on buu..
Now if hit can charge a powerful enough blast he might kill buu bit that's considering buu dosen't surprises absorb him..
Buu can go on and on and on but hit will tire out, buu has might not have infinite stamina but he has a fuckton more than all hit
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon May 01, 2017 7:17 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
AvatarReiko wrote:Hit vd Buuhan
Buuhan
Hear me out, hit might be stronger than buuhan by a ton but hit specializes in assassination, which is impossible on buu..
Now if hit can charge a powerful enough blast he might kill buu bit that's considering buu dosen't surprises absorb him..
Buu can go on and on and on but hit will tire out, buu has might not have infinite stamina but he has a fuckton more than all hit
There's no might hit would kill him with a casual ki blast.
Buu regeneration isn't limitless gohan Vs super buu vegito Vs buuhan shows us this those two could've kill buu at anytime and those two aren't shit to hit.
Not to mention hit was able trade blows with ssjb goku let alone kaioken x 10 version of it buuhan was getting his shit pushed in by z era ssj vegito who's straight up garbage to anybody around blue level.
Buu doesn't even have an answer for hits abilities it'll be like beerus Vs buu all over again in this situation.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 01, 2017 8:30 am

pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
- Golden Freeza gets wrecked. Future Zamasu went toe-to-toe with a SSJB Goku who was much stronger than his ROF and U6 counterpart.
- Black wastes Hit. Goku Black is freak of nature who gets stronger with every fight.
- Amped Bergamo is only as strong as how much energy you give him to absorb. SSJB Goku would still easily overpower him

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon May 01, 2017 8:53 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
- Golden Freeza gets wrecked. Future Zamasu went toe-to-toe with a SSJB Goku who was much stronger than his ROF and U6 counterpart.
- Black wastes Hit. Goku Black is freak of nature who gets stronger with every fight.
- Amped Bergamo is only as strong as how much energy you give him to absorb. SSJB Goku would still easily overpower him
Black has no knowledge of hits killing techniques and goku knows hit gotten a lot stronger since they fought if black had knowledge than sure but all it take is one hit and black goes down just like goku did in there second fight.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Tue May 02, 2017 6:39 am

New mystic gohan
[spoiler]who supposedly gained tremendous power to the level of challenging goku head on, take him around current SSB for this[/spoiler]
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue May 02, 2017 7:22 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
- Golden Freeza gets wrecked. Future Zamasu went toe-to-toe with a SSJB Goku who was much stronger than his ROF and U6 counterpart.
- Black wastes Hit. Goku Black is freak of nature who gets stronger with every fight.
- Amped Bergamo is only as strong as how much energy you give him to absorb. SSJB Goku would still easily overpower him
Pretty sure a unhindered Hit will drop Black without much trouble. We already saw what he was able to do to Goku without rules preventing him from killing. He even outright killed Goku and he would have stayed dead if not for the last minute ki blast he fired to resuscitate him. If Hit has every move available to him including his Time Skip, I dont see Black winning even with SSJR. The fact he gets stronger from each beating wont matter if hes killed round 1.
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Post by apex_pretador » Tue May 02, 2017 9:16 am

pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
Golden Freeza blows up the planet, goes to sleep. Zamasu regenerates.
Winner: Zamasu

Hit kills in one hit. Winner: Hit

Bergamo caps out at Super Saiyan Goku's level of power, so he is only twice as strong as SS Goku. Blue is a different realm of power. Winner: Goku
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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue May 02, 2017 10:33 am

[spoiler]Smugly raised one finger in Steven's direction and fired his Lightning of Absolution at the Savior of the Saiyan Legend, only to watch in surprise as Steven had effortlessly deflected the purple bolts of lightning with a modest wave of his hand, and at the same time he redirected them harmlessly into space, Steven had charged at his devilish foe and kicked Goku Black up into the air. Then, he flew up after the Purple Demon and double axe-handle punched Goku Black down to the ground. Before, the Super Saiyan God had powered up to his full power as he charged down at the Super Saiyan White: Makaiōshin and double-punched Goku Black in the back. Finally, Steven quickly landed on the ground and caught the British Demon on his back before throwing Goku Black onto the ground, all before the Super Saiyan White: Makaiōshin had the chance to scream in agony.[/spoiler]

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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue May 02, 2017 11:29 am

pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
- Even though Future Zamasu is weaker (I suppose so), he's immortal and thus can't be killed in any way. This means, he'll end up winning.
- Hit kills him.
- Bergamo was weaker than Ssj Goku, what happened next is bullshit to me. ROF Goku stomps.
AvatarReiko wrote:Hit vd Buuhan
Buuhan is weaker than Ssj2 Rageta. Now, do I have to say more? Hit is on a completely different level, and anyway he can use ki-blasts like everyone else.
Lord Beerus wrote: - Black wastes Hit. Goku Black is freak of nature who gets stronger with every fight.
Probably, but Hit can kill him with the same technique he used on Goku. Can Black avoid that? I doubt it.

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Post by ZombieVito » Tue May 02, 2017 6:10 pm

Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].

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ZombieVito wrote:Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].
- Basil gets wasted. Majin Boo left Drugged Basil heavily fatigued and barely alive after a serious Kamehameha. Piccolo at this stage is on the same tier as Majin Boo, being on the high end of SSJ2 tier.
- This is a close fight. I mean, a really close fight. It could go either way. I'd side with Majin Boo because regeneration is more hax.
- Krillin wins... and quite comfortably. He got his ass kicked by Base Gohan but was shown to be able hold his own against Base Goku by using a good amount strategy and cunning.
- Can't really determine where Ultimate Gohan is at this stage, so that match-up is unclear. But if the spoilers for Episode 90 are any indication, Gohan may wins this easily.

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Post by Roronoa-pt » Wed May 03, 2017 7:21 am

pacz360 wrote:F.zamasu vs golden frieza
Unrestricted Hit vs Ssjr black
Amped bergamo vs rof ssjb goku
Well, Zamasu is immortal so he eventually wins. Power-wise however, Future Zamasu surely was strong and could keep up with Goku for a few seconds but that's it. Hell, he had problems with SSJ2 Trunks, he could never beat SSJB Goku. Goku is surely stronger than Golden Frieza by now but I believe he would only stomp Frieza if he uses Kaioken, if not, Golden Frieza would still give the current SSJB Goku some problems. Unlike Zamasu. Golden Frieza is stronger than Zamasu but due to his immortality, Zamasu wins.

Black is stronger but Hit gets this due to his OP time leapse technique.

SSJB Goku wins this easily. Goku wasn't using his FP against Bergamo. If he wanted, he would easily vaporize him.

ZombieVito wrote:Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].
Basil gets wasted by Piccolo.

I do believe Piccolo is stronger than Buu. He's stronger than SSJ2 Gohan and he could keep up with Mystic Gohan in their training. And we've seen that Mystic Gohan toyed with Super Buu back in Dragon Ball Z. Also, Good Buu is weaker than the original Fat Buu, after the evil was expelled from him. Piccolo wins.

Power-wise, I do believe Kuririn is weaker but using a good amount of strategy, he can definetly beat Goku.

There's no indication that the Current Gohan is stronger than the DBZ Gohan. Buutenks gets this. After episode 90, we'll see.

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1) Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black vs. Ultimate Gohan (Universe Survival Saga).

2) Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight), Hatchiyack (Base Form), Super Perfect Cell, Bojack (Full Power), and Majin Dabura (Demonic Will) vs. Gohan (Resurrection F).
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ZombieVito wrote:Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].
1. Basil takes this. Current SS2 Gohan should be way stronger than SS2 Goku from the Buu arc but he's still no match for Buu. Piccolo seemed to be slightly weaker than SS2 Gohan and only got the upper hand due to his tricky attack pattern so he won't be able to do much against a drugged up Basil.
2. Even Fat Buu would win for the above-mentioned reasons. There shouldn't be an overwhelming gap between Buu and a drugged up Basil.
3. DBS is a Toei product. Yamcha one-shotting Olibu is also Toei bullshit. taking both into consideration, Kuririn should easily win even if Goku pulls out a 10x Kaioken. Not so sure about 20x though.
4. There's a huge gap between Buu arc Gohan and Buutenks. Even though Gohan has improved greatly since RoF, there's still a lot of training to be done before he comes close to facing Buutenks.

EDIT: After the latest episode, Piccolo is definitely my 2nd most favorite character but boy are you guys overrating him. Goku might not know about his gains but he still seemed to have more expectations for Buu (though that's hardly any indication that Buu's stronger). Still, Piccolo doesn't have anything going for him that puts him above Buu.

Also, everyone here can agree that Current Fat Buu = Initial Fat Buu, right? Or do you think Current Fat Buu = Less than half of initial Fat Buu?
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Post by Roronoa-pt » Wed May 03, 2017 12:47 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:
ZombieVito wrote:Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].
1. Basil takes this. Current SS2 Gohan should be way stronger than SS2 Goku from the Buu arc but he's still no match for Buu. Piccolo seemed to be slightly weaker than SS2 Gohan and only got the upper hand due to his tricky attack pattern so he won't be able to do much against a drugged up Basil.
2. Even Fat Buu would win for the above-mentioned reasons. There shouldn't be an overwhelming gap between Buu and a drugged up Basil.
3. DBS is a Toei product. Yamcha one-shotting Olibu is also Toei bullshit. taking both into consideration, Kuririn should easily win even if Goku pulls out a 10x Kaioken. Not so sure about 20x though.
4. There's a huge gap between Buu arc Gohan and Buutenks. Even though Gohan has improved greatly since RoF, there's still a lot of training to be done before he comes close to facing Buutenks.

EDIT: After the latest episode, Piccolo is definitely my 2nd most favorite character but boy are you guys overrating him. Goku might not know about his gains but he still seemed to have more expectations for Buu (though that's hardly any indication that Buu's stronger). Still, Piccolo doesn't have anything going for him that puts him above Buu.

Also, everyone here can agree that Current Fat Buu = Initial Fat Buu, right? Or do you think Current Fat Buu = Less than half of initial Fat Buu?
Defeating SSJ2 Gohan as easily as Piccolo did was a major feat. Ultimate Gohan humiliated Super Buu and Piccolo is strong enough to fight with Ultimate Gohan. We can all agree that Super Buu is way stronger than Fat Buu.

I'm not sure if Buu got any stronger after this Fit Buu "transformation", so I'm assuming that Fat Buu is way weaker than his original self, because Piccolo & Dende said so, back in DBZ.

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2) Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight), Hatchiyack (Base Form), Super Perfect Cell, Bojack (Full Power), and Majin Dabura (Demonic Will) vs. Gohan (Resurrection F).
Base Black is more than enough to destroy Ultimate Gohan.
Super Perfect Cell can kill Gohan alone, doesn't need any help.

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed May 03, 2017 2:30 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:
ZombieVito wrote:Current Piccolo vs Drugged Basil.
Current Piccolo vs Good Boo [No magic or absorption].
Current Kuririn vs Goku [Freeza arc; No Kaioken].
Current Gohan [Ultimate form] vs Evil Boo [Gotenks absorbed; No magic or absorption].
1. Basil takes this. Current SS2 Gohan should be way stronger than SS2 Goku from the Buu arc but he's still no match for Buu. Piccolo seemed to be slightly weaker than SS2 Gohan and only got the upper hand due to his tricky attack pattern so he won't be able to do much against a drugged up Basil.
2. Even Fat Buu would win for the above-mentioned reasons. There shouldn't be an overwhelming gap between Buu and a drugged up Basil.
3. DBS is a Toei product. Yamcha one-shotting Olibu is also Toei bullshit. taking both into consideration, Kuririn should easily win even if Goku pulls out a 10x Kaioken. Not so sure about 20x though.
4. There's a huge gap between Buu arc Gohan and Buutenks. Even though Gohan has improved greatly since RoF, there's still a lot of training to be done before he comes close to facing Buutenks.

EDIT: After the latest episode, Piccolo is definitely my 2nd most favorite character but boy are you guys overrating him. Goku might not know about his gains but he still seemed to have more expectations for Buu (though that's hardly any indication that Buu's stronger). Still, Piccolo doesn't have anything going for him that puts him above Buu.

Also, everyone here can agree that Current Fat Buu = Initial Fat Buu, right? Or do you think Current Fat Buu = Less than half of initial Fat Buu?
Well, Gohan after training with the Z Sword was already stronger than Goku in the Boo arc in equal forms, add 8 months of training with Piccolo to that and I can see his SSJ2 form be superior than Fat Boo.

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