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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:53 pm

I'd imagine as sad as anyone would be after having a role they did for over 10 years being taken away from them. Like I said on the other thread, she's apparently the nicest lady in the world, but it's just not the direction they're goin' with. As far as I know though, she'll still be playing Baba.

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Post by B » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:54 pm

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Pauline Newstone is the one who Dub Freeza on Ocean Dub?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by bkev » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:54 pm

Indeed. I'm sorry to hear that she cried, but I certainly am glad we'll get to see another take on Freeza. There's always Z if I want to hear Linda Young.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:56 pm

B wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Pauline Newstone is the one who Dub Freeza on Ocean Dub?
Yes.
So who actually you guys want to voiced Freeza?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by dragonpiece » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:23 pm

Dragondye, do you ever read thread posts? But anyway it is sad to hear she cried, but I am all for a new take on Freeza!
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by dragondyle » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:37 pm

dragonpiece wrote:Dragondye, do you ever read thread posts? But anyway it is sad to hear she cried, but I am all for a new take on Freeza!
Haha, yes I do. You say it like I never do or something. I just found out about it from FUNimation's blog and got excited about it. But then realized I got beaten to it and deleted the posts.

It's sad to hear she was upset about losing the part, but I'm glad to hear they decided to re-cast. Can't wait to hear the new Freeza!
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:41 pm

Kirbopher wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Whoo-hoo! All kinds of awesomeness! Hope Ms. Young isn't too disappointed, though...
She cried. I shit you not.
Don't spoil the enjoyment for me, damn it. :p

I feel bad for her, though, because she'd been officially announced as returning. It's a dirty trick to announce and THEN go back on it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:00 pm

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Kirbopher wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Whoo-hoo! All kinds of awesomeness! Hope Ms. Young isn't too disappointed, though...
She cried. I shit you not.
Don't spoil the enjoyment for me, damn it. :p

I feel bad for her, though, because she'd been officially announced as returning. It's a dirty trick to announce and THEN go back on it.
That's what I'm taking issue with. If they announced this from the get-go, it wouldn't really be a problem. But according to Sabat, they never planned on changing her, but when they had her do lines, she kinda had trouble saying some of the longer dialogue, so they decided it'd be best to go with someone else.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:07 pm

I don't often agree with you, but yeah, it seems a bit mean-spirited to me. Sabat's holding the reins, and he gets to be any voice he feels like.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Blue » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:22 pm

I know it sounds like a jackass thing to ask but I want to know what "crying" consisted of. I'll feel really bad if it was full on crying because she really wanted to play the role but if it was like a goodbye cry I won't feel like such a jackass. If it's not the latter I'll have a really hard time watching dub Kai without feeling like a jerk.

On a happier note that 3rd interview really impressed me, Sabat and Sean really have their shit together.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:50 pm

I don't know, that interview still sounds a little too self-congratulatory to me. Let US decide whether it's the best ever. We're the consumers. These guys are the same twats who were bragging about the fucking orange bricks a few years ago. And it's not like Kai is the greatest English dub ever, it's just better than Z's, which is terribly easy to do.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:05 pm

Kirbopher wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Whoo-hoo! All kinds of awesomeness! Hope Ms. Young isn't too disappointed, though...
She cried. I shit you not.
It is quite sad that a role she had grown so close to had to be given up. I'd be sad to let a role go after years as well, and I truly do feel bad for her, but on the other hand, we will be getting a new, and hopefully much better Fri­eza this time around.

A bit off-topic, but this reminds me of when Veronica Taylor was said to have cried when she (and the rest of the cast) were replaced for the Pokemon dub.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:09 pm

I think I cried when Veronica Taylor and the rest were replaced. They were great in those roles.

(No, I didn't cry, I had stopped caring about the Pokemon TV series long before, but the new cast isn't nearly as good as Taylor, Lillis, et al.)
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:21 pm

On the topic of the new Freeza voice, that's great news, though I don't really think it sounds promising if 'you won't even be able to tell it's a man'...I'm imagining it's going to sound more similar to Young's Freeza than Nakao's, even with a new VA, based on that.

Anyways, I missed today's ep on Nicktoons when it was on at 8 so I'm watching it now, and now that Vegeta's getting more than a handful of lines...Sabat's Vegeta is actually bugging me even more than ever, which I didn't think was possible. He just keeps getting lower and raspier, which is the aspect of the voice that I hate the most and really wish would have been phased out for the Kai dub...Sabat's Piccolo is getting quite good, and I understand that having him speak more naturally for Vegeta would make the voices a bit too similar (and a recast for such a popular character would have been the impossible dream, sadly), but it just grates on me. I'm really liking his Piccolo and especially his Yamcha this time around, but finding myself hating his Vegeta more than ever.
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Post by Mewzard » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:33 pm

You found it to be more raspy? Odd, I found a lot of his Vegeta lines in the Kai dub to be spoken more calmly. While the voice itself is still somewhat raspy, he was more reserved with it, I feel.
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Post by Kirbopher » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:23 am

I'd imagine as sad as anyone would be after having a role they did for over 10 years being taken away from them.
Also:
He had been, for a long time, interested in using a male actor to portray Freeza, but opted out each time because he thought it might've been too radical of a change for American fans of the show to accept.

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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:02 am

Nobody will be happy that feelings were hurt in the cast change.

But I think most of us can agree that Chris made the right decision.

As a director, sometimes you do have to be cold about these things. If he thinks her voice doesn't fit, he should take it upon himself to find someone else. Hurting 1 person's feelings should not come into mind when trying to make a better adaptation.

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Post by ThegreatPirateKing » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:26 am

The simple fact was that, like many characters in the show, it was a voice that did simply not fit with the character. It was also one that turned many away from the show. While it is terrible that she had to be re-cast, this re-cast is good thing in the eyes of many fans so it will probably help in all areas of getting this show watched and bought.

That being said, I still love her Genkai. Don't think anyone else could of pulled off a better voice and I still think she would have made a good Kureha in One Piece. She's honestly a good actress but like I said, the character does have to come before the voice otherwise, it turns off people fast when watching dubs.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:03 am

Kirbopher wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Whoo-hoo! All kinds of awesomeness! Hope Ms. Young isn't too disappointed, though...
She cried. I shit you not.
I actually can't blame her. She's been doing the voice for so many years and she assumed she would be doing it in Kai, but FUNi pulled a fast one on her.


It's going to be a bit sad to see her go as Freeza, but it's for the better.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by LilKokuLink » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:33 am

It's going to be very sad not to have Linda Young voicing Freeza, it's surely going to be hard to get used to. I hope Young doesn't feel too bad about it, either way she's still a good voice actress and even though Freeza may or may not be the best character she had the opportunity to voice, her tears are probably for the fact that after 10 years she has to be let go. All in all: good call by Sabat, this shows the dedication to ensure this dub is treated properly; commiserations to Young, no matter how good this new Freeza is, her one will always be first in my point of view.
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