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by DBZ Macky » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:40 am
Noah wrote:New match:
- Merged Zamasu (anime) vs. Merged Zamasu (manga)
I have initial Merged Zamasu (Anime) equal to his Manga counterpart, so it can go either way. If I had to pick one, it'd be Manga Zamasu because of his Janemba-esque techniques (and also because I'm incredibly biased towards the Manga). After the "Light of Justice" though, Anime Zamasu stomps.
Berserker1921 wrote:Current Mastered Frieza vs Goku Black (right before fusing with Zamasu)?
They're almost equal in battle power by my numbers, but Black has prodigious Kaioshin fighting skills as well as Goku's own fighting style. I think that gives Black a pretty good advantage over your random overpowered space thug.
AvatarReiko wrote:SSJBKK Goku & Golden Frieza vs 100% Beerus
Goku should be close to Beerus's power, but only with the Kaio-Ken x10, which would be pretty strenuous on his body anyways. Frieza is only even with SSB Goku without the Kaio-Ken. Beerus sneezes them out of existence.
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by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:57 am
Sidra's destruction sphere vs Android 16
Will he be able to resist it
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by DBZ Macky » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:17 am
Ki Breaker wrote:Sidra's destruction sphere vs Android 16
Will he be able to resist it
Definitely not. Today's episode wasn't telling us that Sidra is weak, it was telling us that Freeza is the one who's a lot stronger than we (might have) thought.
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by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:52 pm
DBZ Macky wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Sidra's destruction sphere vs Android 16
Will he be able to resist it
Definitely not. Today's episode wasn't telling us that Sidra is weak, it was telling us that Freeza is the one who's a lot stronger than we (might have) thought.
Base goku survived that, Android 16 should able to Handel it for a little bit of time
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by DBZ Macky » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:46 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:DBZ Macky wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Sidra's destruction sphere vs Android 16
Will he be able to resist it
Definitely not. Today's episode wasn't telling us that Sidra is weak, it was telling us that Freeza is the one who's a lot stronger than we (might have) thought.
Base goku survived that, Android 16 should able to Handel it for a little bit of time
Is Android 16 strong enough to tank SS3 Gotenks's attacks now?
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by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:49 pm
DBZ Macky wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:DBZ Macky wrote:
Definitely not. Today's episode wasn't telling us that Sidra is weak, it was telling us that Freeza is the one who's a lot stronger than we (might have) thought.
Base goku survived that, Android 16 should able to Handel it for a little bit of time
Is Android 16 strong enough to tank SS3 Gotenks's attacks now?
Base goku is still considered as strong as SS3 Gotenks?
It has been debunked as well as proved right so many times I lost count..
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by ssbgoku » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:33 pm
AvatarReiko wrote:SSJBKK Goku & Golden Frieza vs 100% Beerus
if it is anything below 6x Kaioken then Beerus wins. However with 10x Kaioken goku is certainly stronger then beerus
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by dragon boss z » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:DBZ Macky wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:
Base goku survived that, Android 16 should able to Handel it for a little bit of time
Is Android 16 strong enough to tank SS3 Gotenks's attacks now?
Base goku is still considered as strong as SS3 Gotenks?
It has been debunked as well as proved right so many times I lost count..
Base Goku and Vegeta's strength fluctuates so much it is impossible to say anymore.
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by Berserker1921 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:44 pm
Mastered Golden frieza, Hit (after Black arc), Toppo, Trunks, Goku and vegeta vs Merged Zamasu (No immortality)? Goku can only use kkx10 once in the battle. No fusing of the heroes. Will they survive?
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by Zamasu55 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:06 pm
Berserker1921 wrote:Mastered Golden frieza, Hit (after Black arc), Toppo, Trunks, Goku and vegeta vs Merged Zamasu (No immortality)? Goku can only use kkx10 once in the battle. No fusing of the heroes. Will they survive?
No.
It took SsjB Vegito to weaken Merged Zamasu, and no one on the list is nearly as strong as him. And even if Merged Zamasu gets somehow destroyed, he'd just fuse with the universe again.
PS: Jiren alone would trash Merged Zamasu. Why didn't you add him?
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by Berserker1921 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:33 pm
Zamasu55 wrote:Berserker1921 wrote:Mastered Golden frieza, Hit (after Black arc), Toppo, Trunks, Goku and vegeta vs Merged Zamasu (No immortality)? Goku can only use kkx10 once in the battle. No fusing of the heroes. Will they survive?
No.
It took SsjB Vegito to weaken Merged Zamasu, and no one on the list is nearly as strong as him. And even if Merged Zamasu gets somehow destroyed, he'd just fuse with the universe again.
PS: Jiren alone would trash Merged Zamasu. Why didn't you add him?
Because I don't know how powerful he is. All we know he is stronger then toppo. And toppo is more or less goku/frieza
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by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:28 am
Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Rules:
No outside help
No time travel
Who wins?
She/Her
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by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:38 am
Hellspawn28 wrote:Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Rules:
No outside help
No time travel
Who wins?
Sidra was said to only give a little to that dog man. Also Sidra said that he could still kill Frieza. Even after seeing how powerful he was. So I would say that even though Sidra might be weaker then Beerus. I imagine not that much. I imagine Beerus is gohan was in the Buu saga and Sidra is more or less ssj 3 gotenks. So I would say he dominates Black.
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by MainJPW » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 am
Hellspawn28 wrote:Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Rules:
No outside help
No time travel
Who wins?
Sidra Godstomps.
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by Ki Breaker » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:17 am
Hellspawn28 wrote:Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Rules:
No outside help
No time travel
Who wins?
Sidra is being underestimated a lot here..
Sidra wins without any difficulty
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by Zamasu55 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:43 am
Berserker1921 wrote:Zamasu55 wrote:Berserker1921 wrote:Mastered Golden frieza, Hit (after Black arc), Toppo, Trunks, Goku and vegeta vs Merged Zamasu (No immortality)? Goku can only use kkx10 once in the battle. No fusing of the heroes. Will they survive?
No.
It took SsjB Vegito to weaken Merged Zamasu, and no one on the list is nearly as strong as him. And even if Merged Zamasu gets somehow destroyed, he'd just fuse with the universe again.
PS: Jiren alone would trash Merged Zamasu. Why didn't you add him?
Because I don't know how powerful he is. All we know he is stronger then toppo. And toppo is more or less goku/frieza
He's a lot stronger than Toppo.
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by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:36 am
[spoiler]Dragon Ball Side Story: The Case of Being Reincarnated as Gohan
Hero Reborn Saga - Part 1:
Present Timeline. Age 760, three years after the birth of Gohan,
Goku’s House,
Sometime following Gohan seeking out Demon God Démigra as a mentor, Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō invade the Earth of the present. But as Gohan had spent everyday training like if his life had depended on it with his parents, family, and extended family, he had already become equally as strong as he would have been as a Full Power Super Saiyan.
Now with Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō already having arrived before Goku and Chi-Chi with their Instantaneous Movement in one go, both Gohan and Demon God Démigra go out to confront them together with their Instant Transmission from the Crack of Time. But as fate would have it, Android 18 had also came to the scene and was intent on killing Goku to fulfill her mission after Dr. Gero set her back in time…
Only to find out to her horror, the creators of her world had been replaced by Goku Black and Future Zamasu, as the two once thought dead Demons forced their new vessels to undergo a nightmarish transformation, and become their old selves once more. But just as Android 18 and the entire Universe would have been destroyed by Goku Black’s Black Power Ball, Gohan reacts just in time and repels the Mars-sized energy sphere.
Then with Goku Black turning Super Saiyan Rosé a split-second later, Gohan also turns into his form of Super Saiyan and with Demon God Démigra, challenge Goku Black and Future Zamasu. And despite all of the power of his version of Super Saiyan Blue, Goku Black proved to be no match for the might of Chou Super Saiyan Gohan while Future Zamasu fared little better than his counterpart and even lost his Immortality against Demon God Démigra.
Having been defeated and even forced out of his Super Saiyan Rosé form, Goku Black goes crazy from having lost and flashes into his Super Saiyan Rosé transformation by using the last of his energy reserves before creating his Super Black Kamehameha Rosé to destroy the Universe and the rest of the timeline.
But in a fierce blaze of overwhelming power that the world has never seen before, Nate had transformed into a Super Saiyan, and the mighty Neo Angel was no more…
Vegito eats the last Senzu Bean and immediately goes Super Saiyan Blue, calling himself Blue Vegito (Vegito Blue in the anime).
Son Gohan (Saiyan Beyond God): 1.15 billion
Chou Super Saiyan Son Gohan: 16.206 billion
Twilight Super Saiyan Son Gohan: 115 billion
Demon God Démigra: 115 billion
Android 18: 200 million
Akira Toriyama: −6
Akira Toriyama (Goku Black Possessed): 120 million
Goku Black: 4.96 billion
Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black: 16 billion
Toyotarō: −6
Toyotarō (Future Zamasu Possessed): 120 million
Future Zamasu: 16 billion[/spoiler]
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by AvatarReiko » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:18 pm
Ki Breaker wrote:Hellspawn28 wrote:Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Sidra is being underestimated a lot here..
Not surprising, considering Frieza was able to tank his strongest technique with ease
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by Ki Breaker » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:04 pm
AvatarReiko wrote:Ki Breaker wrote:Hellspawn28 wrote:Sidra vs. SSjR Goku Black
Sidra is being underestimated a lot here..
Not surprising, considering Frieza was able to tank his strongest technique with ease
Sidra misjudged their strength.. by a lot..
Even after freeza shrugged off the attack Sidra was confident he could destroy him if he acts
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by LightBing » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:01 pm
Manga Continuity
100% SSJB Goku vs SSJB Vegeta and SSJR Goku Black
Base Goku Black vs SSJ Vegetto(Boo Arc)