The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:39 am

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Who is the weakest DB character that can solo the Fate/stay night verse?
Beerus.
It depends. A goof case could be made for CCC Gilgamesh. The fate verse has a shit ton of hax and their abailties work on a conceptual level. Lancer's Gae Bolg, for instance, could screw over a lot of DBZ in characters under the right conditioned. In theory, he could beat Goku, Vegeta and maybe even Beerus. In reality though, DBZ characters would just blitz him before he could call his NPs name

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:02 am

Toppo and goku vs Vegeta and freeza

Good guys vs the douche nozzles, who wins
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Post by dragon boss z » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:48 pm

Gog wrote:When Vegeta was defeated by Final Form Freeza and when his chest was pierced by Freeza's Death Beam. If Dende had been alive and healed him, would he be able to beat Freeza with the Zenkai boost he would have gotten?

Round 1- Final Form Frieza

Round 2- Final Form Frieza at 50%
He would probably be as strong as base Goku was, so he would give Frieza a bit of trouble while he is fully suppressed but if Frieza powered up he would easily win.

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Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:56 pm

Gog wrote:When Vegeta was defeated by Final Form Freeza and when his chest was pierced by Freeza's Death Beam. If Dende had been alive and healed him, would he be able to beat Freeza with the Zenkai boost he would have gotten?

Round 1- Final Form Frieza

Round 2- Final Form Frieza at 50%
He defeats Final Form Frieza, but would surely fail against 50% Final Form Frieza.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:58 pm

All of the Gods of Destruction vs. All of the participants in the tournament of power
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Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:55 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:All of the Gods of Destruction vs. All of the participants in the tournament of power
The gods would slaughter them. To my knowledge not even goku, vegeta, and Frieza are Beerus level. Maybe all of them together could defeat him. However with the exception of Jiren, Toppo, and hit. None of the other warriors to my understanding are god levels or near they're gods of destruction level like those few I mentioned. So they all die horribly

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:10 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:Villain off! Who survives? (Rules, no flying, healing, chocolate beams, or absorbing. No world destroying the planet. All the same strength. Battle royal, last villain standing. Who wins?)

Frieza
Cell
Buuhan
Black
Piccolo SR
Janemba
Hirdrugan
Broly
Cooler
Commonsome Vegeta
Hatchiyack
Baby vegeta
Omega shenron
Super 17
Slug
Turles
Demigra
Towa
Mira
Nappa
Dr. Wheelo
Garlic Jr
Bojack

Who is the last one to survive and why?

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Post by Roronoa-pt » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:10 am

Berserker1921 wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:Villain off! Who survives? (Rules, no flying, healing, chocolate beams, or absorbing. No world destroying the planet. All the same strength. Battle royal, last villain standing. Who wins?)

Frieza
Cell
Buuhan
Black
Piccolo SR
Janemba
Hirdrugan
Broly
Cooler
Commonsome Vegeta
Hatchiyack
Baby vegeta
Omega shenron
Super 17
Slug
Turles
Demigra
Towa
Mira
Nappa
Dr. Wheelo
Garlic Jr
Bojack

Who is the last one to survive and why?
I'd say Buuuhan is a strong candidate to win. He owns all the techniques of Gohan, Piccolo & Gotenks, can strech his body plus Piccolo's intellect is a plus. Cell is a good candidate too but his regeneration abilities aren't on the same level as Buuhan.
Huderugan, Broly & Janemba are too dumb to think of a valuable strategy, Frieza & Black are too cocky and haven't the brains to develop a good strategy, the rest aren't impressive enough.
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Post by Noah » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:51 pm

New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers
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Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:37 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers
Goku doesn't need Blue nor Kaiokhen to beat them.

Basil (drugged) was weaker than Good Buu.
Lavenda was weaker than Ssj Gohan.
Bergamo at his best was even with Ssj Goku.

So... Ssj3 Goku should be able to one-shot them, literally.

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Post by Noah » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:52 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:Goku doesn't need Blue nor Kaioken to beat them.

Basil (drugged) was weaker than Good Buu.
Lavenda was weaker than Ssj Gohan.
Bergamo at his best was even with Ssj Goku.

So... Ssj3 Goku should be able to one-shot them, literally.
You're understimating them too much:

- Basil lost to Mr. Boo, a low SSJ2-tier, I don't think Goku can beat Mr. Boo without transforming into SSJ at least.
- Lavenda can use poison and that can affect directly on the match and IIRC Gohan used SSJ2 against him, that SSJ Gohan was somewhat even with SSJ Goku as for Episode 75.
- Bergamo can absorb the damage in-battle to add on his power/height, you can say Bergamo was even with SSJ Goku, I think he was stronger, but was taking hits because his increasing height was turning to be a disadvantage. Goku thought the only he could beat Bergamo was giving him way too much power to absorb and that was Kaioken + Blue, which surprisingly didn't killed Bergamo.

I don't think Goku would beat them so easily, considering a fight vs. all three at once, Lavender's poison and Bergamo abillity, without using Kaioken + Blue, I think Goku would at least need SSJB to bring them down.
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Post by Roronoa-pt » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:45 am

Noah wrote:New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers
Goku powers up to SSJ3 and uses his speed to knock out Lavender with one blow, make him unable poison.
Uses Instant Transmission to go near Basil and shoots a Kamehameha to destroy him.
After this, Goku powers down to his base form ( see NEP ) and defeats Bergamo after a good fight.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:32 am

Roronoa-pt wrote:
Noah wrote:New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers
Goku powers up to SSJ3 and uses his speed to knock out Lavender with one blow, make him unable poison.
Uses Instant Transmission to go near Basil and shoots a Kamehameha to destroy him.
After this, Goku powers down to his base form ( see NEP ) and defeats Bergamo after a good fight.
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Post by MainJPW » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:20 am

Zamasu55 wrote: Bergamo at his best was even with Ssj Goku.
Bergamo at his best was holding back SSJB's Kamehameha.

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Post by apex_pretador » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:54 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:SS goku black vs SS Gotenks
Goku black without even trying.

Even base goku black was beating SS3 Goku, who is stronger than gotenks in base.
The Gotenks fight never happened in the manga and the black base strength varied a lot form the anime as well..
Assume this to be the manga continuity, as SS black exists only there
Base black in manga >> SS2 Future trunks who is almost equal to massively more powerful SS3 goku (who was above SS Gotenks even in buu arc)
Berserker1921 wrote:Villain off! Who survives? (Rules, no flying, healing, chocolate beams, or absorbing. No world destroying the planet. All the same strength. Battle royal, last villain standing. Who wins?)

Frieza
Cell
Buuhan
Black
Piccolo SR
Janemba
Hirdrugan
Broly
Cooler
Commonsome Vegeta
Hatchiyack
Baby vegeta
Omega shenron
Super 17
Slug
Turles
Nappa
Dr. Wheelo
Garlic Jr
Bojack

Who is the last one to survive and why?
Most of the arrogant characters get taken out rather quickly.

Eventually, it comes down to the smart ones - Black, Freeza, Cooler, Cell, Buuhan, Piccolo sr
Piccolo is too cocky to work together, so all others gang up on him. Then Cell and Freeza team up, while Black teams up with cooler. Buuhan is left alone, and therefore picked apart but not before putting up a fight.
Black and cell are evenly matched, as their various abilities are well-matched. After a long battle, Black emerges as winner as he yells "Not even the perfect mortal can stand against meeAAAAAAHH" his celebration is cut short when he gets a hole blown through him with a massive death beam. Freeza, waiting for the moment an exhausted winner emerges off-guard, after he fodderized his brother, then takes out black with a massive death ball.

Freeza ends up the winner
Polyphase Avatron wrote:All of the Gods of Destruction vs. All of the participants in the tournament of power
Gods stomp horribly, each GoD can solo their team.
Noah wrote:New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers
Still goku in a one-sided beatdown.
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Post by MainJPW » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:00 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:All of the Gods of Destruction vs. All of the participants in the tournament of power
GoD's slaughter.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:01 pm

MainJPW wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: Bergamo at his best was even with Ssj Goku.
Bergamo at his best was holding back SSJB's Kamehameha.
Krillin managed to do that, so what?

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Post by MainJPW » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:25 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:
MainJPW wrote: Bergamo at his best was holding back SSJB's Kamehameha.
Krillin managed to do that, so what?
...Way to take things out of context.

Anyway, Bergamo's ability allows him to absorb his opponent's power and give it back two-fold, which is why he held back the wave in the first place, right? It literally took SSJBKK Goku to overload Bergamo; He'll just keep absorbing power until it's too much for Goku to put down.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:53 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Gods stomp horribly, each GoD can solo their team.
You think Belmod can beat Toppo, Jiren, and the others at once?
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