The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[dragon boss z]

Some random battles. I'm curious about what do you guys think about the power of certain Super's characters.

Super Saiyan Goku Black (Pre-Zenkai) vs Super Vegetto (Buu arc)

Black, I don't think ssj Vegetto could keep up with Blue.

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Buu arc Super Saiyan Goku/Vegeta/Gohan (No inmortality, only one Saiyan at the same time)

Future Zamasu was stated to be weaker than ssj2 Trunks, so Goku and Gohan could win in their strongest forms, but just as ssj they would probably lose.

Super Perfect Cell vs Basil

Cell

Toppo vs Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black

Black.

Lavender vs Magetta

I don't see poison working on Magetta, so Magetta should win.

Hit (Manga) vs Goku Black Super Saiyan

Hard to say, but if Hit can use his killing techniques and Black doesn't know about his time stop, then Hit would probably win.

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Botamo (Would this battle end at some point?)

Future Zamasu wins. He may be able to stab Botamo, if not he could probably do something with his kai powers. He could also try blowing up the planet. If all else fails he can just out live him, lol.

[Noah]

SSJ False Goku vs Kibito

Who wins?

Interesting one, Kibito is stronger than Base Gohan (Boo arc) and I think False SSJ is close to 100% FP Freeza (Namek). It all matters if Kibito can last until Goku loses this power-up using some of his abillities, if not Goku wins.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Golden Great Ape Goku (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Kid Buu.

2) Super Saiyan Berserker Kale vs. Super Saiyan Goku Black.

[Ki Breaker]

1) Golden Great Ape Goku (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Kid Buu.

2) Super Saiyan Berserker Kale vs. Super Saiyan Goku Black.

1- Buu easy.. SS3 was capable of killing him and golden great ape dosen't come close to that, the only plus point is him being able to maintain it for long, which buu dosen't care about because he is pretty moch immortal

2- SS cabba was weaker than SS Vegeta, cauliflowa SS2 viruses away berserkers killing blast to Cabba, assuming their imperfect SS2 is equal to SS Vegeta current, and we know how Vegeta vs black SS went, it's back who takes it

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Golden Great Ape Goku (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Kid Buu.

2) Super Saiyan Berserker Kale vs. Super Saiyan Goku Black.

1- Buu easy.. SS3 was capable of killing him and golden great ape dosen't come close to that, the only plus point is him being able to maintain it for long, which buu dosen't care about because he is pretty moch immortal

2- SS cabba was weaker than SS Vegeta, cauliflowa SS2 viruses away berserkers killing blast to Cabba, assuming their imperfect SS2 is equal to SS Vegeta current, and we know how Vegeta vs black SS went, it's back who takes it

1) Golden Great Ape is much stronger than Super Saiyan 3. As Little Goku (GT) as a Golden Great Ape was able to faze Super Baby Vegeta 2 more than the former had done in even in his fully-maintained Super Saiyan 3 transformation only moments before.

2) Super Saiyan Rogue Goku Black would have to try at the least, as Super Saiyan Berserker Kale is perhaps more dangerous than the infamous Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly.

[dragonball0900]

1) Golden Great Ape Goku (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Kid Buu.

2) Super Saiyan Berserker Kale vs. Super Saiyan Goku Black.

The first one can easily go to Golden Great Ape Goku. The reason is because there's the X10 Oozaru multiplier plus the X50 SSJ multiplier, making a X500, which is bigger than the X400 multiplier of SSJ3, that was equal to Kid Buu.

[Ki Breaker]

1) Golden Great Ape Goku (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Kid Buu.

2) Super Saiyan Berserker Kale vs. Super Saiyan Goku Black.

1- Buu easy.. SS3 was capable of killing him and golden great ape dosen't come close to that, the only plus point is him being able to maintain it for long, which buu dosen't care about because he is pretty moch immortal

2- SS cabba was weaker than SS Vegeta, cauliflowa SS2 viruses away berserkers killing blast to Cabba, assuming their imperfect SS2 is equal to SS Vegeta current, and we know how Vegeta vs black SS went, it's back who takes it

1) Golden Great Ape is much stronger than Super Saiyan 3. As Little Goku (GT) as a Golden Great Ape was able to faze Super Baby Vegeta 2 more than the former had done in even in his fully-maintained Super Saiyan 3 transformation only moments before.

2) Super Saiyan Rogue Goku Black would have to try at the least, as Super Saiyan Berserker Kale is perhaps more dangerous than the infamous Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly.

You know what I think about this?
Naaaaah..

[dragonball0900]

Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Good Buu

We know that Broly is stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, we also know that SSJ2 Vegeta, who is stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, would lose against Good Buu (based on how well he fought against Kid Buu as well as his regeneration).

Who would win?

[Hellspawn28]

Hyssop vs. Ebifurya vs. San Xing Long (Eis Shenron)

Rules:

No outside help
Balance power levels

Battle of the characters with ice powers. Who wins?

[Gog]

Hyssop vs. Ebifurya vs. San Xing Long (Eis Shenron)

Rules:

No outside help
Balance power levels

Battle of the characters with ice powers. Who wins?

Hyssop wins, because I feel bad for what happened to him, and his universe.

[Ki Breaker]

Strongest opponent All might in his prime can beat

[Berserker1921]

Who is the last hero standing in the shonen multiverse tournament? (Equal power)
1. Dragon ball- Goku (can transform and no kaioken)
2. Naruto- Naruto ( can only make 3 clones)
3. One piece - Luffy
4. Sailor moon- Sailor moon (no reality warping)
5. Yu Yu Hakesho- Yusuke
6. Bleach- Ichigo (everyone can see him)
7. FOTNS- Kenshio (no muso tensei)
8. Fairy Tail- Natsu (current)

Rules similar to the multiverse tournament; no flying or killing. Who wins?

[Bullza]

Who is the last hero standing in the shonen multiverse tournament? (Equal power)
1. Dragon ball- Goku (can transform and no kaioken)
2. Naruto- Naruto ( can only make 3 clones)
3. One piece - Luffy
4. Sailor moon- Sailor moon (no reality warping)
5. Yu Yu Hakesho- Yusuke
6. Bleach- Ichigo (everyone can see him)
7. FOTNS- Kenshio (no muso tensei)
8. Fairy Tail- Natsu (current)

Rules similar to the multiverse tournament; no flying or killing. Who wins?

If they're all equal power but Goku can transform would he not then be fifty times stronger than everyone else?

Aside from that, I know nothing about Sailor Moon or FOTNS but when it comes to the others...

1. Goku - He's a master level martial artist, he'd stomp everyone else in close combat. He's also probably got the most combat intelligence. If he can figure out how to get around Hit's power than he can get around everyone elses. He has a good range of techniques, teleportation could make him off to even knock off and keep off, he's got Solar Flare and After images amongst all his ordinary attacks so he has more tools than most.

2. Naruto - Would have the best strategic skills of them all. Between his Shadow clones and substitution justu he'd manage to pull a fast one on someone. He probably has more abilities than anyone else too. He can use Water jutsu so Natsu wouldn't be much of a threat to him, if he could gather enough of it he could completely immobilize Luffy.

3. Luffy - Would have a huge advantage up close because punches and kicks don't work on him. Maybe only Goku could hurt him that way if he uses Ki in his attacks but I'm not sure. He lacks variety though as his fighting style revolves around punching and kicking people and he'd never beat Goku that way.

4. Yusuke - A poor man's Goku. He's not nearly as good a fighter as him, he's won fights on luck in the past even. His energy attacks like the Spirit Gun probably pale in comparison to the kind of power Goku could dish out with a Kamehameha.

5. Ichigo - He has the sword which again would give him a big advantage fighting people up close when everyone else is unharmed. He can also fire energy attacks. Once again he'd have trouble with Goku who would be the only one who could really fight back up close because he can use his Ki for defense like he did against Trunks' sword. The wiki says he can absorb energy? that'd be a big plus for him though considering a lot of these people use energy.

6. Natsu - A decent enough fighter up close aside from that he uses flames which he can mix with lightning, which would have no effect on Luffy.


All in all I'd think that Yusuke, Natsu and probably Ichigo would be too limited. They're not the best fighters, don't have the most techniques, the best combat smarts or any Hax powers like being made of rubber or any trickery so they'd be the first to go.

Luffy would go down next because he's too limited being just a close range fighter and he couldn't take down Goku who is too skilled for him and has already figured out how to beat rubbery opponents before like Buyon and Botamo.

So it'd come down to Goku vs Naruto. They're the two smartest and with the biggest range of abilities. That could go many different ways but probably comes down to who was smarter. Goku would have an advantage up close, Naruto would probably know that so would try to trick him and pull something off when he was caught off guard. It would depend on whether Goku would figure out what Naruto was doing and then counter that and then if Naruto could counter that and so on.

As I said though if Goku was able to twice figure out and counter what Hit was doing as complicated as his powers are and small things like how he could sense Hit in one direction so knew that wasn't actually him but was a trap then he'd likely figure out Naruto's tricks involving shadow clones and substitutions so would win in the end.

[Hellspawn28]

Hyssop vs. Ebifurya vs. San Xing Long (Eis Shenron)

Rules:

No outside help
Balance power levels

Battle of the characters with ice powers. Who wins?

Hyssop wins, because I feel bad for what happened to him, and his universe.

I feel like San Xing Long would win since he seems to have better fighting skills. He was smart enough to find away to ruined Goku eyes.

[Berserker1921]

Who is the last hero standing in the shonen multiverse tournament? (Equal power)
1. Dragon ball- Goku (can transform and no kaioken)
2. Naruto- Naruto ( can only make 3 clones)
3. One piece - Luffy
4. Sailor moon- Sailor moon (no reality warping)
5. Yu Yu Hakesho- Yusuke
6. Bleach- Ichigo (everyone can see him)
7. FOTNS- Kenshio (no muso tensei)
8. Fairy Tail- Natsu (current)

Rules similar to the multiverse tournament; no flying or killing. Who wins?

If they're all equal power but Goku can transform would he not then be fifty times stronger than everyone else?

Aside from that, I know nothing about Sailor Moon or FOTNS but when it comes to the others...

1. Goku - He's a master level martial artist, he'd stomp everyone else in close combat. He's also probably got the most combat intelligence. If he can figure out how to get around Hit's power than he can get around everyone elses. He has a good range of techniques, teleportation could make him off to even knock off and keep off, he's got Solar Flare and After images amongst all his ordinary attacks so he has more tools than most.

2. Naruto - Would have the best strategic skills of them all. Between his Shadow clones and substitution justu he'd manage to pull a fast one on someone. He probably has more abilities than anyone else too. He can use Water jutsu so Natsu wouldn't be much of a threat to him, if he could gather enough of it he could completely immobilize Luffy.

3. Luffy - Would have a huge advantage up close because punches and kicks don't work on him. Maybe only Goku could hurt him that way if he uses Ki in his attacks but I'm not sure. He lacks variety though as his fighting style revolves around punching and kicking people and he'd never beat Goku that way.

4. Yusuke - A poor man's Goku. He's not nearly as good a fighter as him, he's won fights on luck in the past even. His energy attacks like the Spirit Gun probably pale in comparison to the kind of power Goku could dish out with a Kamehameha.

5. Ichigo - He has the sword which again would give him a big advantage fighting people up close when everyone else is unharmed. He can also fire energy attacks. Once again he'd have trouble with Goku who would be the only one who could really fight back up close because he can use his Ki for defense like he did against Trunks' sword. The wiki says he can absorb energy? that'd be a big plus for him though considering a lot of these people use energy.

6. Natsu - A decent enough fighter up close aside from that he uses flames which he can mix with lightning, which would have no effect on Luffy.


All in all I'd think that Yusuke, Natsu and probably Ichigo would be too limited. They're not the best fighters, don't have the most techniques, the best combat smarts or any Hax powers like being made of rubber or any trickery so they'd be the first to go.

Luffy would go down next because he's too limited being just a close range fighter and he couldn't take down Goku who is too skilled for him and has already figured out how to beat rubbery opponents before like Buyon and Botamo.

So it'd come down to Goku vs Naruto. They're the two smartest and with the biggest range of abilities. That could go many different ways but probably comes down to who was smarter. Goku would have an advantage up close, Naruto would probably know that so would try to trick him and pull something off when he was caught off guard. It would depend on whether Goku would figure out what Naruto was doing and then counter that and then if Naruto could counter that and so on.

As I said though if Goku was able to twice figure out and counter what Hit was doing as complicated as his powers are and small things like how he could sense Hit in one direction so knew that wasn't actually him but was a trap then he'd likely figure out Naruto's tricks involving shadow clones and substitutions so would win in the end.

What about Kenshiro? You think he can do anything to Goku?

[Bullza]

What about Kenshiro? You think he can do anything to Goku?

I don't know anything about him either. Of the other Shonen heroes I do know of...

Toriko - Is like Luffy in that's main a close combat type of fighter except he doesn't have the hax body. He's a decent fighter but a master so would go out quick.

Saitama - Might one shot everyone in his seriously because he's so much more powerful but here where everyone is equal he'd be absolutely useless and would go out first.

Kenshin - Has a sword that would be help and probably has better sword skills than Ichigo but being as he doesn't fire energy blasts like him he wouldn't fare too well.

Meliodas - He would probably get quite far. Not only does he have a sword but he's able to use an ability called full counter that allows his sword to absorb all energy and then fire it back even more powerful. I don't think he'd win because again Goku and Naruto aren't stupid and they'd use other means.

[dragon boss z]

Strongest opponent All might in his prime can beat

I'm only caught up on the anime, but from what I've seen maybe King Piccolo.

[DanielSSJ]

Android Arc Krillin vs Frieza Arc Gohan (no rage boost)

Basically Krillin from the Android arc goes to the past to fight a weaker version of Gohan. Who wins?

Assuming that this is Gohan is from the end of the Freeza arc, he's probably got a battle power of around 300~400 thousand. In my eyes, Kuririn probably capped out at 250K. Given Kuririn's greater skill and experience and Gohan's possible hesitation, I could actually see Kuririn coming out on top. I'd say that he wins 2/5 times.

Strongest Dragonball guy voldemort can Beat
23rd budokai goku vs Harry Potter armed with elder wand

- Assuming Voldy isn't immortal, he'd be very lucky to win against the stronger contestants of the 21st Tenka'ichi Budokai. While the killing curse could potentially one-shot most anybody from Dragon Ball, that's only if it hits. Guys like Kuririn, Goku, and Jackie Chun can already move at speeds faster than eye can follow, and Jackie Chun has some pretty devastating techniques. While Voldemort might get lucky, he's definitely at a disadvantage against anyone stronger than these guys.

- Same thing with this match. I sorta doubt that the amped up spells Harry could throw around would be much more impressive than what Voldemort or Dumbledore could do on their own. Goku's just way too strong, way too fast, way too tough, and way too battle smart to lose to Harry, no matter what wand is in his hand.

Final Form Frieza vs Kid Goten and Kid Trunks, no fusion but their power after the ROSAT.

I see a lot of debate about Goten vs Frieza but I'm wondering what if we throw Kid Trunks in there.

Oh puh~lease. Even if i were being conservative, Goten and Trunks would be at least around the same level as No. 18, given how a weak blast from Trunks scared the daylights out of her (I actually tend to put them a notch or two below Boo arc Piccolo). Freeza would be easy pickings for either Goten or Trunks. Both of them together is overkill.

Buu arc Chiaotzu runs the gauntlet:

vs Nappa

vs Guldo

vs Vegeta (saiyan arc)

vs Cui

vs Dodoria

vs Zarbon (transformed)

vs Recoome

vs Ginyu

Based on next to nothing, I tend to stick Chiaotzu at around 30~40 thousand by the time of the Boo arc. He might have some trouble with Reacoom, but his psychic powers and general Earth skills would put the match in his favor. He hits a wall with Ginyu.

SSJ False Goku vs Kibito

Who wins?

Given everything, I would assume that the protagonists from the Fourth Film are taken from the Ginyu-Force portion of the Freeza arc. Goku's 90,000 battle power multiplied by 40 (slightly lower than Super Saiyan's full 50) would be 3.6 million. Kibito's a bit weaker than base Boo arc Gohan, who's about as strong as 505 Freeza. Goku loses and he loses badly.

Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Good Buu

We know that Broly is stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, we also know that SSJ2 Vegeta, who is stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, would lose against Good Buu (based on how well he fought against Kid Buu as well as his regeneration).

Who would win?

I think comparing Mr. Boo to Vegeta based on their performances against Pure Boo isn't as cut-and-dry as some people think it is. While Mr. Boo lasted longer, we can attribute that to his regeneration rather than his power. It also seemed to me that Vegeta dealt more damage against Pure Boo before he got knocked down. To me, Mr. Boo is about as strong as High School age SS2 Gohan. Broli is obviously stronger than that, but I'm not convinced that he'd be able to put Boo down for good. Odds are that he spends the fight trying to blast or smash Boo to no avail, and that sooner or later, he gets turned into candy by Boo's magic.

[Noah]

New match:

- Current Krillin & #18 vs. Zangya

[dragonball0900]

New match:

- Current Krillin & #18 vs. Zangya

Naturally, Zangya would win. But since we don't really know Android 18's strenght if she improved like her brother or not, then it's up to debate. For me, Zangya would still win in terms of strenght unless we have more proof of Android 18's strenght. Though if Krillin manages to make a good move with his best techniques, he might have a chance.