Onikage725 wrote:In reference to the guns discussion, and not specifically commenting on the movie/laser gun.
Wha... are you guys serious? Goku being bulletproof was just a gag? And what about Kuririn?
About Yamcha pulling Goku away- did Yamcha ever see Goku get shot? Bulma, obviously yes. But why would Yamcha just assume Goku was *that* tough and not move to protect him? If the scene had played out differently, it would have been a total dick move on Yamcha's part to let the kid get shot and hope for the best.
And on the RR thing- just because they weren't lethal doesn't mean they weren't damaging. They still stung, and there were a lot of soldiers. Vampires in the Buffyverse can't be killed by bullets, but that doesn't mean Angel's plan of action against guys with automatic weapons was to stride confidently into the maelstrom, no? Ditto the shotgun thing. Would the shells break his skin? Probably not. Would a point blank buckshot hurt Goku at that level? Like a bitch.
Anywho... I said I'll look past the Mai thing. I'm not going to devote much energy into debating whether or not Goku was bulletproof when he got capped in the face less than 10 minutes into the series with no ill effects whatsoever. Supposed "gag" or not.
It's hard to say, since every time a character has been shot it's been a gag of some sort. A shotgun point-blank to the face is probably different though. Bulma seemed to think Goku wouldn't survive it (she could have been wrong of course) and Goku looked worried himself.
Either way, I think the movie characters are closer to normal humans apart from ki, thus taking them by surprise with a conventional weapon might be effective. Similar to how taking someone by surprise with a ki blast to the back would work in the manga.
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Ah. Buss, I hadn't thought of the Ki-absorbing models. It seems odd to me now that I think about it that they can, but I suppose machines can use Ki if it is taken from a living being, and just don't have any of their own.
Yeah.. When you think about it, ki may be a spiritual energy, but characters use it all the time to do all sorts of things. If you can use ki to boil water or create kinetic movement, then creating usable energy from that isn't hard.
I was just thinking that if Gero's Androids were able to suck the ki right out of Yamcha and Piccolo's bodies, then it's probably possible to make a ki powered gun.
