"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Akyon]

How about you learn what a tournament is before you start calling other people morons.

Thank you Sherlock for your brilliance. I didn't know what a tournament is.

If you didn't notice I was referring to plot structure. Even when it's not a technical tournament, it's the same b.s.:

- No adventure
- No plot other than them having to beat someone
- The entire story takes place in one spot, apart from the ending where they always end up outside of the planet's atmosphere
- The entire story is just them beating someone
- When someone loses, someone else jumps in "the ring" to beat the new guy

That is the structure they have followed for 3/4 arcs, and it's nonsense that they'll keep doing this.

To be fair, we will at least get some information and maybe some insight into the other universes and what kind of residents live there. We have world building at least(or universe building I guess).

[Lord Beerus]

I feel like the whole thing about universes being destroyed might get fixed with the Super Dragon Balls... whether that could cause something with Zen'o or not is a different story.

Didn't Zamasu destroy the Super Dragon Balls?

[ekrolo2]

I feel like the whole thing about universes being destroyed might get fixed with the Super Dragon Balls... whether that could cause something with Zen'o or not is a different story.

Didn't Zamasu destroy the Super Dragon Balls?

Since Beerus kills him they should still be fine, unless the wish counts for every universe.

[namekiansaiyan]

In 9-10 hours comes the trailer but don't know if i can resist so long i'm from germany xD

I know, how can any Dragon Ball fan not be excited for this arc. This has the potential to be the best arc ever.

[ArchedThunder]

In 9-10 hours comes the trailer but don't know if i can resist so long i'm from germany xD

Longer than that actually, we're not getting it at the franchise panel, but the Heroes panel the day after.
Hopefully we'll get a comment from Toriyama from the franchise panel.

[namekiansaiyan]

In 9-10 hours comes the trailer but don't know if i can resist so long i'm from germany xD

Longer than that actually, we're not getting it at the franchise panel, but the Heroes panel the day after.
Hopefully we'll get a comment from Toriyama from the franchise panel.

How do you even know that.

[Kanassa]

In 9-10 hours comes the trailer but don't know if i can resist so long i'm from germany xD

Longer than that actually, we're not getting it at the franchise panel, but the Heroes panel the day after.
Hopefully we'll get a comment from Toriyama from the franchise panel.

How do you even know that.

The announcement of the 'Promotional Material' and 'Further information' said that both would be present at the Super DragonBall Heroes panel.

[FortuneSSJ]

So this arc like ROF and Champa arc comes directly from Toriyama, and not from a Toei suggestion like BOG and FT Trunks arc. Hope he does a better job this time.
Toei plotines have been more interesting.

People complaining about Super having too many tournaments, when DB had 4 tournaments... 3 Tenkaichi Budokai and Baba's tournament.
The only problem with this tournament happening is how soon it is for it yet.

Unfortunately like I said some years ago i expect all Gods of Destruction to be a bunch of cats. I would like to be wrong, but after seeing other Kaioshins and Attendants seems even more unlikely now.

I hope Toriyama brings cool characters for other Universes at least, even though I don't believe there will 100 + more new characters. No way.
If that happens I can see him becoming lazy with the designs, unless Toei helps him with suggestions. Even so I don't think it will happen.

The strongest Universe the Dragon team will face may just have like 3 fighters, who will be enough to give everyone a run for their money.

For U6 team, It would be cool if Toriyama brought a Namekian. Saiyans are peaceful there, so make Namekians being ruthless in U6 would be cool.
For U10 team, a Barbarian would be welcome.

Universes blowing up as they are out of the tournament is awesome, but I hope Goku wishes them back as the prize of winning the tournament. If they win.
Toriyama gave us infinite possibilities with the 12 Universes, get rid of that worldbuilding and stay stuck with only Universe 7 again in the end would be a huge letdown.

Things will spice up when the turn for U6 or U7 to disappear comes.

[Kanassa]

People complaining about Super having too many tournaments, when DB had 4 tournaments... 3 Tenkaichi Budokai and Baba's tournament.

And only one of those had more than one arc between them

[ArchedThunder]

People complaining about Super having too many tournaments, when DB had 4 tournaments... 3 Tenkaichi Budokai and Baba's tournament.

And only one of those had more than one arc between them

If you don't count the filler of Goku training we even got two tournaments back to back, Baba and the 22nd Budokai.

[Neon Z]

I think the issue here is that the Universe 6 tournament was likely one of the weakest tournament arcs - due to the lack of stakes, personal connections of the competitors and only one really serious opponent with Hit (who only got to fight at the end due to the tournament's format, unlike Roshi, Tenshinhan and Piccolo). I think the announcement about how the existence of the universe will be on the line this time shows they noticed at least some of the problems of the last tournament though. A 10 person team also suggests this story will be significantly longer than the last one.

[GTx10]

Maybe Goten and Kid Trunks are left behind to defend Earth. Or more likely their mothers forbid them from entering. Truth is Tien and Roshi have far more combat, and life experience than the boys and thus more viable. Unless Roshi is stuck on a Planet full of beautiful women he's extremely capable.
Tien is bland enough that he can enter this arc and suffer the least. Goten and Kid Trunks can be fooled, used, mentally destoryed and further. Roshi and Tien, not so much.

[HeroR]

I think the issue here is that the Universe 6 tournament was likely one of the weakest tournament arcs - due to the lack of stakes, personal connections of the competitors and only one really serious opponent with Hit (who only got to fight at the end due to the tournament's format, unlike Roshi, Tenshinhan and Piccolo). I think the announcement about how the existence of the universe will be on the line this time shows they noticed at least some of the problems of the last tournament though. A 10 person team also suggests this story will be significantly longer than the last one.

I have only seen a couple fans claim that the U6 tournament was weak compared to the other tournament arcs.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I think the issue here is that the Universe 6 tournament was likely one of the weakest tournament arcs - due to the lack of stakes, personal connections of the competitors and only one really serious opponent with Hit (who only got to fight at the end due to the tournament's format, unlike Roshi, Tenshinhan and Piccolo). I think the announcement about how the existence of the universe will be on the line this time shows they noticed at least some of the problems of the last tournament though. A 10 person team also suggests this story will be significantly longer than the last one.

I have only seen a couple fans claim that the U6 tournament was weak compared to the other tournament arcs.

For the record, it was far, far weaker. Very little drama, just fighting for the sake of fighting. That being said, it was and is still a fun arc to watch. I think people were a little too tension-hungry at the time, that's why it seemed like such a disappointment.

[GodKaio-Ken]

It's implied all Kaioshins have Time Rings, not just U10.

Where? IIRC it's implied that only Kaioshins can use the Time Rings not each universe has a box with those.

There is nothing special about U10 that we know of. There would be no reason only Gowasu would have access to ALL the time rings.

I think the room is the same place but linked across all the universe in a sense. Or maybe can just manifest itself in any universe when needed.

[TheMikado]

So this arc like ROF and Champa arc comes directly from Toriyama, and not from a Toei suggestion like BOG and FT Trunks arc. Hope he does a better job this time.
Toei plotines have been more interesting.

Misread, edited to avoid confusion.

[GodKaio-Ken]

So this arc like ROF and Champa arc comes directly from Toriyama, and not from a Toei suggestion like BOG and FT Trunks arc. Hope he does a better job this time.
Toei plotines have been more interesting.

Umm you do know that BOG and I believe to a lesser extent RoF were Toei suggestions right... they even had a whole rough script with the God of Destruction concept already created and Toriyama took that, rewrote and adapted that whole thing.

Huh? He said BOG was a Toei suggestion. Not sure what you mean here?

[HeroR]

For the record, it was far, far weaker. Very little drama, just fighting for the sake of fighting. That being said, it was and is still a fun arc to watch. I think people were a little too tension-hungry at the time, that's why it seemed like such a disappointment.

The 21st tournament also had no stakes, no drama, and was a glorified training setting for Goku and Krillin. The 22nd hardly had any stakes outside of Tien's grudge against Goku. Both tournaments also happened for the sake of fighting. If we count Baba's tournament, there was no real stakes or drama either since Goku could have solo the whole thing. Only the 23rd tournament had any real stakes and drama.

[Lujin_16]

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[TheMikado]

So this arc like ROF and Champa arc comes directly from Toriyama, and not from a Toei suggestion like BOG and FT Trunks arc. Hope he does a better job this time.
Toei plotines have been more interesting.

Umm you do know that BOG and I believe to a lesser extent RoF were Toei suggestions right... they even had a whole rough script with the God of Destruction concept already created and Toriyama took that, rewrote and adapted that whole thing.

Huh? He said BOG was a Toei suggestion. Not sure what you mean here?

Misread, edited to avoid confusion.