"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:28 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Your whole position boils down to "He could have done X differently" or "I don't like this", therefore, they aren't stakes. Very little you've said actually has anything to do with stakes, though. You're just frantically apologizing for the U6 Arc because you enjoyed it more. That's fine, but you're making yourself look ignorant because you lack understanding of why things like self-improvement matter, or why one would want to defend their honor, or avenge a friend. For you, interesting stakes boil down to how big of explosions they can make. For some of us, personal implications for the characters are more potent. Just because you're in the Splodey Camp doesn't mean that nothing else can qualify as stakes, it means that you understand the big flashy threats better than the character-driven ones.
Don't be arrogant enough to put words in my mouth. I never once wrote something could've been different or I don't like something, so you can stop right there.

Call what I did 'apologizing' all you want. Doesn't change that only the 23rd tournament had any real stakes outside a bruised ego. And when did I say I enjoyed the U6 tournament more? And you say I don't understand self-improvement? Yeah, whatever

Splodey Camp? Yeah, you can sit down with that. You can love those tournaments all you want and prefer them over U6. Doesn't change what I said. A character going home with a bruised ego are hardly stakes, no matter how you try to slice it.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:31 pm

Noah wrote:Image

Is there anything relevant in this?
Maybe they finally have a proper name for Trunks' Super form?
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Post by Boo Machine » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:35 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Noah wrote:Image

Is there anything relevant in this?
Maybe they finally have a proper name for Trunks' Super form?
According to the Dokkan Battle thread the name given is just "Super Saiyan Trunks".
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Post by dbs fanboy » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:42 pm

Boo Machine wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Noah wrote:Image

Is there anything relevant in this?
Maybe they finally have a proper name for Trunks' Super form?
According to the Dokkan Battle thread the name given is just "Super Saiyan Trunks".
Huh? I thought that it was super saiyan rage or something like that, idk, imma call him ultimate Trunks berserk mode
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Post by Boo Machine » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:46 pm

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Maybe they finally have a proper name for Trunks' Super form?
According to the Dokkan Battle thread the name given is just "Super Saiyan Trunks".
Huh? I thought that it was super saiyan rage or something like that, idk, imma call him ultimate Trunks berserk mode
I think someone said "Super rage-Power" in the "trunks new FORM" thread. But I honestly have no idea my self. I can only go off what others tell me as I don't know much Japanese. Berserk Mode works. It's better than nothing. At least I think so anyway.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:58 pm

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dbs fanboy wrote:Huh? I thought that it was super saiyan rage or something like that, idk, imma call him ultimate Trunks berserk mode
I think someone said "Super rage-Power" in the "trunks new FORM" thread. But I honestly have no idea my self. I can only go off what others tell me as I don't know much Japanese. Berserk Mode works. It's better than nothing. At least I think so anyway.
The cards have titles like "Warrior of Rage", "Symbol of Hope" or "Prideful Prince", however the character/form on the ones in question are just "Super Saiyan Trunks (Future)".
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:07 pm

Jump Festa's already started, but accordingly to Super Dragon Ball Heroes website, it seems its panel will start at 9:15, so get ready for whatever they'll throw at us. :)

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Post by nite_jay » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:09 pm

Grimlock wrote:Jump Festa's already started, but accordingly to Super Dragon Ball Heroes website, it seems its panel will start at 9:15, so get ready for whatever they'll throw at us. :)

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Post by Neon Z » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:38 pm

HeroR wrote:
Neon Z wrote: Stakes aren't just a matter of saving the world. Facing Roshi in the 21st Budokai would be like facing Beerus now. It'd be very relevant regarding showing the characters' growth.

Same goes to the 22nd Budokai. Tenshinhan and Chaotzu were there to humiliate the Kame school in revenge for Tao Pai Pai's loss. The Universe 6 arc lacked any of that. And, like I mentioned above, in all of those cases the main opponents had matches throughout the tournament, rather than being left to the end.
There were still no stakes since it was all a glorified training session. Roshi was nothing like Beerus since Beerus was trying to kill Goku and threatened the Earth.
I didn't mean in the first battle, I meant if they were to face each other now. It'd mean a lot for Goku to be fighting near his level, just like Goku coming close to beat Roshi in the 21st Budokai. "Stakes" aren't just saving the world.
Baba's tournament only had the strongest fight once. Hit got three official matches.
Baba's tournament also was easily the worst tournament in DB, so it hardly should be seen as a good comparison.

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Post by Noah » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:39 pm

The trailer will air which hours in our time zone?
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Post by Abel Taylor » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Noah wrote:The trailer will air which hours in our time zone?
Though I can't answer your question, I will say that the Heroes panel is currently going. Not sure if it's livestreamed.
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Post by Alee9977 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:53 pm

So we should be able to see the PV for the new arc in a few hours.

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Post by Lujin_16 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:57 pm

i'm curious if they will show some designs of the new characters

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:02 pm

Abel Taylor wrote:
Noah wrote:The trailer will air which hours in our time zone?
Though I can't answer your question, I will say that the Heroes panel is currently going. Not sure if it's livestreamed.
The Heroes panel isn't today.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:10 pm

Neon Z wrote:
I didn't mean in the first battle, I meant if they were to face each other now. It'd mean a lot for Goku to be fighting near his level, just like Goku coming close to beat Roshi in the 21st Budokai. "Stakes" aren't just saving the world.
Baba's tournament only had the strongest fight once. Hit got three official matches.
Baba's tournament also was easily the worst tournament in DB, so it hardly should be seen as a good comparison.
Goku didn't even know he was fighting Roshi at the tournament. As far as he knew he was just fighting a tough old man. Narrative, there were no stakes except for maybe fans who wanted Goku to lose as Roshi wanted. And why would Goku care about Roshi now?

My point remained that Hit got as many fights as Roshi, Tien, and Piccolo, which was three.
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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:11 pm

"You think you can defeat me? Using the power of those MOSQUITOS?! I am the legendary WARRIOR!" - Broly (Big Green Dub)

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:16 pm

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:We're getting a new opening: https://twitter.com/iza_dbwj/status/809928413414731776
Nice! I'm excited!

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Post by Alee9977 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:17 pm

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:We're getting a new opening: https://twitter.com/iza_dbwj/status/809928413414731776
Is it a completely new opening or new versions of Chozetsu Dynamic?

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Post by Sodhi » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:17 pm

Looks like it will be sung by Kiyoshi Hikawa

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:17 pm

It'll apparently be sung by Kiyoshi Hikawa
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