The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MainJPW » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:05 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Ribrianne vs. Buu (current)
I'd wait on that one since she's still in and all.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:28 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Adult GT Goku (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Majuub (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga).

2) Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Gohan (Baby Saga) vs. Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Majin Baby Goten (Baby Saga).

3) Super Saiyan God-Absorbed Super Saiyan GT Goten (Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17 (Cell Absorbed) (Super 17 Saga).

4) Potential Unleashed GT Pan (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Super Saiyan Broly (Second Coming) and Majin Spopovich.

5) Full Power Super Saiyan 4 GT Vegeta (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Golden Great Ape Baby Gohan (Baby Saga).

6) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 GT Trunks (Super 17 Saga) vs. Supervillain Mode Ledgic (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga).

7) Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Bulla (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Tuffle Super Saiyan Baby Vegeta (Baby Saga).
1. Goku wins. I still believe adult goku was stronger than his kid body who struggles to control his ssj3 form.

2. I think Goten wins. Yes; Gohan trains more. But the baby boost is a good boost as well as being ssj3. Goten finishes him off unless he doesn't milk it.

3. I know many think ssj4 is greater than God. But I don't think so. I think a god boost is massive. So I have personally 15-20 thousand times boost. He kills super 17 cell absorbed unless he doesn't shoot blast at him and make him stronger.

4. Pan easily slaughters Broly. She was able to briefly keep up with kid goku who was at his base ssj3 level. If she is unleashed she is easily Vegito Level. I see Broly in this movie slightly stronger than ssj2 kid Gohan. However would get wrecked by vegeta or goku at ssj2 in the buu saga.

5. Vegeta easily. Vegeta is a very dedicated person. If goku wasn't the main character, Vegeta would easily be the most powerful person out of the saiyans. He was able to obtain god mode without the ritual. I imagine as ssj4 he masters it quickly. Also Gohan would be stupid and sluggish in that form.

6. Trunks slaughters him. At ssj1 I have trunks easily around ssj3 goku in the buu saga. As a ssj3 he wrecks ledgic.

7. Bulla loses bad. She can have all the potential in the world. But in db Lore; if you don't train or have some magical unlock you can't defeat anyone. Vegeta easily beats her.
Eight) Super Saiyan Blue Adult GT Goku (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) and Majuub (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Cell-X (Dark Dragon Ball Merged) and Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta.

9) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan (Baby Saga) and Super Saiyan 4 GT Goten (Baby Saga) vs. Super 17 (Android 18 Absorbed).

10) Super Saiyan God GT Goten (Baby Saga) and Super Saiyan 4 GT Pan (Baby Saga) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

11) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 GT Trunks (Baby Saga) and Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Pan (Baby Saga) vs. Potential Unleashed Baby Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) and General Rhildo.

12) Super Saiyan Blue Adult GT Goku (Shadow Dragon Saga), Super Saiyan Blue GT Vegeta (Shadow Dragon Saga), Super Saiyan Blue GT Gohan (Shadow Dragon Saga), and Super Saiyan Blue GT Trunks (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Syn Shenron, Final Form Frieza (Resurrection F Saga), and Kaguya Ōtsutsuki.

13) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan (Assault on the Hell Gate Saga) and GT Piccolo (King Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Evil Buu (Super Janemba Absorbed) and Super Buu (Hirudegarn Absorbed).

14) Super Saiyan 2 GT Pan (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) and Super Saiyan 2 GT Bulla (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. A Moon-sized Metal Overlord Metal Sonic and Perfect Chaos.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:12 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Berserker1921 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Adult GT Goku (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Majuub (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga).

2) Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Gohan (Baby Saga) vs. Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Majin Baby Goten (Baby Saga).

3) Super Saiyan God-Absorbed Super Saiyan GT Goten (Super 17 Saga) vs. Super 17 (Cell Absorbed) (Super 17 Saga).

4) Potential Unleashed GT Pan (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Super Saiyan Broly (Second Coming) and Majin Spopovich.

5) Full Power Super Saiyan 4 GT Vegeta (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Golden Great Ape Baby Gohan (Baby Saga).

6) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 GT Trunks (Super 17 Saga) vs. Supervillain Mode Ledgic (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga).

7) Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Bulla (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Tuffle Super Saiyan Baby Vegeta (Baby Saga).
1. Goku wins. I still believe adult goku was stronger than his kid body who struggles to control his ssj3 form.

2. I think Goten wins. Yes; Gohan trains more. But the baby boost is a good boost as well as being ssj3. Goten finishes him off unless he doesn't milk it.

3. I know many think ssj4 is greater than God. But I don't think so. I think a god boost is massive. So I have personally 15-20 thousand times boost. He kills super 17 cell absorbed unless he doesn't shoot blast at him and make him stronger.

4. Pan easily slaughters Broly. She was able to briefly keep up with kid goku who was at his base ssj3 level. If she is unleashed she is easily Vegito Level. I see Broly in this movie slightly stronger than ssj2 kid Gohan. However would get wrecked by vegeta or goku at ssj2 in the buu saga.

5. Vegeta easily. Vegeta is a very dedicated person. If goku wasn't the main character, Vegeta would easily be the most powerful person out of the saiyans. He was able to obtain god mode without the ritual. I imagine as ssj4 he masters it quickly. Also Gohan would be stupid and sluggish in that form.

6. Trunks slaughters him. At ssj1 I have trunks easily around ssj3 goku in the buu saga. As a ssj3 he wrecks ledgic.

7. Bulla loses bad. She can have all the potential in the world. But in db Lore; if you don't train or have some magical unlock you can't defeat anyone. Vegeta easily beats her.
Eight) Super Saiyan Blue Adult GT Goku (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) and Majuub (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. Cell-X (Dark Dragon Ball Merged) and Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta.

9) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan (Baby Saga) and Super Saiyan 4 GT Goten (Baby Saga) vs. Super 17 (Android 18 Absorbed).

10) Super Saiyan God GT Goten (Baby Saga) and Super Saiyan 4 GT Pan (Baby Saga) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

11) Full Power Super Saiyan 3 GT Trunks (Baby Saga) and Strengthened Super Saiyan 2 GT Pan (Baby Saga) vs. Potential Unleashed Baby Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) and General Rhildo.

12) Super Saiyan Blue Adult GT Goku (Shadow Dragon Saga), Super Saiyan Blue GT Vegeta (Shadow Dragon Saga), Super Saiyan Blue GT Gohan (Shadow Dragon Saga), and Super Saiyan Blue GT Trunks (Shadow Dragon Saga) vs. Syn Shenron, Final Form Frieza (Resurrection F Saga), and Kaguya Ōtsutsuki.

13) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan (Assault on the Hell Gate Saga) and GT Piccolo (King Piccolo Absorbed) vs. Evil Buu (Super Janemba Absorbed) and Super Buu (Hirudegarn Absorbed).

14) Super Saiyan 2 GT Pan (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) and Super Saiyan 2 GT Bulla (Black Star Dragon Ball Saga) vs. A Moon-sized Metal Overlord Metal Sonic and Perfect Chaos.
8) goku at his base in Gt was greater than his ssj3 form. If Gt goku gained god ki. He easily slaughters everyone in Gt. He wins this fight by himself. I have this goku at Beerus + level.

9. The duo wins through team work. If anything they might fuse and beat super 17 + haha.

10. I would give say trunks beats Gohan. However if he doesn't hurt up rildo beats him. And pan finishes him off.

11. Goten solos. Remember I personally think ssj God is gretajer than ssj4 by thousands.

12. Gt saiyan destroy team 2.

13. Team 1, cause Gohan is a beast.

14. Don't know

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:41 am

Master Roshi vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)

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Post by MainJPW » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:12 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Master Roshi vs Vegeta (Saiyan saga)
Muten Roshi should beat this Vegeta.

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Post by Boulouki » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:11 am

dragonball0900 wrote:Kogu (one of Bojack's Henchmen) vs Semi Perfect Cell

Zangya vs Cell Jr

Base Bojack vs SSJ Goku (Cell Games Arc)
Semi Perfect Cell wins, biggest factor is his regen

really weird but i would say cell Jr because of more feats

And Ssj Goku takes this i think, if he could go toe toe with perfect cell (even if he held back) then he could easily go toe to toe or even beat Bojack's base form.

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Post by Boulouki » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:17 am

BrolyKale wrote:Broly LSSJ (from the second movie) vs Caulifla SSJ2? who wins and why?

I think Broly might be stronger because he faced Gohan SSJ2 but didn't take any damage at all (only the lava did some damage but he was still able to outclass Gohan with ease)
It is hard to say but i would go with caulifla, Super characters are on a whole different level than Z, goku as ssj2 right now could stomp all Z characters and caulifla was able to hold her one against him, even if goku was holding back, now if you Take Broly in his God form then he stomps all non fused and non god characters besides Jiren maybe

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Post by Boulouki » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:19 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Dyspo vs. Burter (speed and power levels equal)
Dyspo is still faster lol, even if they had equal speed dyspo has the ability to increase his thousands of times, Dyspo speed blitzes burter

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Post by dragon boss z » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:42 pm

Boulouki wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Dyspo vs. Burter (speed and power levels equal)
Dyspo is still faster lol, even if they had equal speed dyspo has the ability to increase his thousands of times, Dyspo speed blitzes burter
If they are equal speeds Dyspo isn't faster. He doesn't have a technique that multiplies his max speed, he just has extremely high acceleration, so he would be able to reach his max speed before Burter.

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Post by DSB » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:00 pm

Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Freeza
Cell
Gohan
Hit
Goku Black
Beerus


All are at their peaks of their skill set. Remember, Equal Strength,Speed and no flight.

How many of them can Roshi beat?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:53 pm

Legendary Super Saiyan God Broly (Dragon Ball Z: Super Tenkaichi Budokai) vs. Infinite (Sonic Forces).
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Versus.
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Post by MainJPW » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:59 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Legendary Super Saiyan God Broly (Dragon Ball Z: Super Tenkaichi Budokai) vs. Infinite (Sonic Forces).
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Versus.
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Forces isn't out yet, so Infinite has no feats.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:07 pm

- Strongest character current Master Roshi can beat?
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Post by Bullza » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:28 pm

Noah wrote:- Strongest character current Master Roshi can beat?
Ganos.

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Post by Noah » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:29 pm

Bullza wrote:Ganos.
And in Z?
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Post by dragon boss z » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:46 pm

Noah wrote:- Strongest character current Master Roshi can beat?
Maybe Zarbon? At absolute best I would say Ginyu.
DSB wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Freeza
Cell
Gohan
Hit
Goku Black
Beerus


All are at their peaks of their skill set. Remember, Equal Strength,Speed and no flight.

How many of them can Roshi beat?
Who he could probably beat: Frieza, Gohan

Could go either way: Vegeta, Piccolo, Black

Who he would probably lose to: Goku, Hit, Beerus

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Post by Bullza » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:47 am

Noah wrote:
Bullza wrote:Ganos.
And in Z?
Who can anymore. I would find it off that he would be stronger than Base Goku at the start of Super and he's also weaker than Krillin which would mean he couldn't beat Final Form Frieza but I don't see how else you could really compare him.

He could be above Nappa, Captain Ginyu or a lesser Frieza form for all we know.

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Post by Puaru » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:07 am

Current (meaning Universal Survival Arc) Gohan VS SSRage Trunks.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:58 pm

DSB wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Freeza
Cell
Gohan
Hit
Goku Black
Beerus


All are at their peaks of their skill set. Remember, Equal Strength,Speed and no flight.

How many of them can Roshi beat?
He loses to Hit or Beerus. Since the thing roshi would have as advantage against the others is experience and wisdom. As this most recent db super episode explained. Hit has over thousand years of experience and a time skip that would make roshi a life difficult. As well for Beerus who is possibly millions to billions years old. He has much more life and fighting experience than anyone.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:02 pm

Puaru wrote:Current (meaning Universal Survival Arc) Gohan VS SSRage Trunks.
Trunks. He was actually able to stand up to merged Zamasu who is much closer to Beerus in power. Than Gohan is closer to goku. I am not talking about the spirit sword either. Also he constantly fought and survived Black who we still believe to be as strong or stronger than current goku.

Gohan is no doubt strong and has the potential to be the strongest z warrior. However unlike trunks he lacks that real drive to survive and grow stronger. This Gohan had a shit child hood but his teen to adulthood has been quite nice thanks to goku and vegeta being around to face any real threat. Trunks never had this. His only protector was killed at 11-12 years old. So for almost 20 year or so. He fought hard to survive. He had to become stronger because he didn't have anyone to save the day likecurrent Gohan has. Even after this tournament Gohan will prob go back to his old life be he knows his dad and vegeta got this.

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