"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[dragonballgeek]

Everyone keeps complaining about the destruction of the universes if they lose.


Am I the only one who thinks it'll be revealed as a lie to get everyone to fight seriously..? I mean, death for losing is a serious motivator. And it'd stop guys like Hit from holding back their true strength.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'm sure Gotenks would take the tournament seriously if the universe is at stake of being destroyed.

History disagrees with you. When the entire world was at stake during the Boo situation, he lost every time because he thought he was big and bad enough to finish things whenever he wanted. Too much self-confidence is a consistent character trait of Gotenks'

[pacz360]

I'm sure Gotenks would take the tournament seriously if the universe is at stake of being destroyed.

History disagrees with you. When the entire world was at stake during the Boo situation, he lost every time because he thought he was big and bad enough to finish things whenever he wanted. Too much self-confidence is a consistent character trait of Gotenks'

You could have vegeta telling the kids to take this situation seriously plus as others mentioned you have buu on the team who's also unreliable so I don't see why you can't bring them or at least yamcha or some other guy in u7.

[OLKv3]

I'm sure Gotenks would take the tournament seriously if the universe is at stake of being destroyed.

History disagrees with you. When the entire world was at stake during the Boo situation, he lost every time because he thought he was big and bad enough to finish things whenever he wanted. Too much self-confidence is a consistent character trait of Gotenks'

You can use this same logic on Vegeta as well, who fails every major challenge. And Gohan, who needed to be bailed out. And hell, even Goku went up to Buu thinking he was hot stuff and got destroyed, needing the dragon balls to save him

[Ki Breaker]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

[HeroR]

I don't know why everyone says this is the last arc. Hell, this could just be a Cell -> Buu Saga deal where this arc marks the end of the "first half" of Super.

Considering how they foreshadowed it a couple times, I wouldn't be surprised if all these arcs led to this tournament, kind of like how everything led to Gohan becoming SSJ2 back in Z...

But Cell to Buu wasn't the half way point. It was the 3/4 point. Plus, there were all the stories before with the original Dragon Ball.

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

It's not following the manga. The manga only has this one preview.

[pacz360]

Everyone keeps complaining about the destruction of the universes if they lose.


Am I the only one who thinks it'll be revealed as a lie to get everyone to fight seriously..? I mean, death for losing is a serious motivator. And it'd stop guys like Hit from holding back their true strength.

Zeno destroyed six universes in a fit of rage and his future counterpart nuked a entire timeline cause he found zamasu annoying. This is something the omni king would do.

[pacz360]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

How they gonna do that while still in the black arc? They would have to finish it next month And even then the anime would still be ahead.

[HeroR]

You can use this same logic on Vegeta as well, who fails every major challenge. And Gohan, who needed to be bailed out. And hell, even Goku went up to Buu thinking he was hot stuff and got destroyed, needing the dragon balls to save him

Goku only lost to Kid Buu because he wasn't used to a living body anymore and didn't know Super Saiyan 3 would drained him the way he did. If Goku was still dead, he would have performed better and probably killed Buu on his own.

[UpFromTheSkies]

[spoiler]Does anyone else suspect this universe survival tournament won't even come close to finishing? It just sounds way to big and crazy for a single arc.... I'm betting something happens in the middle of it and it ends and leads into another story arc.[/spoiler]

[OLKv3]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

How they gonna do that while still in the black arc?

They have access to Toyo's drawings. What's released isn't where he's at. He's much farther ahead than what's released. He's probably been finished the Black arc.

You can use this same logic on Vegeta as well, who fails every major challenge. And Gohan, who needed to be bailed out. And hell, even Goku went up to Buu thinking he was hot stuff and got destroyed, needing the dragon balls to save him

Goku only lost to Kid Buu because he wasn't used to a living body anymore and didn't know Super Saiyan 3 would drained him the way he did. If Goku was still dead, he would have performed better and probably killed Buu on his own.

AKA Goku thought he could win, and was wrong and failed. Just like Gotenks. It's the same exact situation. If Gotenks were dead, he'd have stomped Super Buu on his own. You can't just pick and choose who the logic applies to.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

How they gonna do that while still in the black arc?

I doubt he's literally still in that arc. In fact, the preview from the next arc seemed to show panels from newer chapter. More likely that he's done with Goku Black, but the release schedule hasn't caught up yet.

[pacz360]

[spoiler]Does anyone else suspect this universe survival tournament won't even come close to finishing? It just sounds way to big and crazy for a single arc.... I'm betting something happens in the middle of it and it ends and leads into another story arc.[/spoiler]

Possibly but we have to see what happens when we get to it.

[dbzfan7]

Zamasu's goal is nearly complete. He's stolen the Grand Wizard's body somehow and is making these filthy ningens eradicate themselves. The Zero Mortals plan will succeed

I didn't even think of that. By the logic of this tournament, they're basically doing exactly what Zamasu wanted anyway.

[HeroR]

Goku only lost to Kid Buu because he wasn't used to a living body anymore and didn't know Super Saiyan 3 would drained him the way he did. If Goku was still dead, he would have performed better and probably killed Buu on his own.

AKA Goku thought he could win, and was wrong and failed. Just like Gotenks. It's the same exact situation. If Gotenks were dead, he'd have stomped Super Buu on his own. You can't just pick and choose who the logic applies to.

Gotenks knew he had five minutes to finish Buu before his fusion broke. So he knew his limits and didn't make it in time, mostly because he messed around. Goku didn't know he suddenly had a hard limit because he has been dead for seven years. It isn't the same situation.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Statements from the last Jump convention about his progress on the current month's chapter would seem to imply otherwise. I wonder if he's not just pulling double duty. Having already scripted the Future Trunks Arc long ago and just finishing up drawing the chapters, while also scripting and drawing the upcoming arc in his "free" time. Similar to how Toriyama would work on Slump or Dragon Ball, but still manage to put out one-shots for certain competitions and stuff.

[Ki Breaker]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

It's not following the manga. The manga only has this one preview.

I would like to believe toie won't show manga chapters in a trailer if it wasn't being used in some way..
Toyotaro said information will go from him to toie so there's that too..
It all adds up to seemingly them using manga as base..

[dragonballgeek]

Everyone keeps complaining about the destruction of the universes if they lose.


Am I the only one who thinks it'll be revealed as a lie to get everyone to fight seriously..? I mean, death for losing is a serious motivator. And it'd stop guys like Hit from holding back their true strength.

Zeno destroyed six universes in a fit of rage and his future counterpart nuked a entire timeline cause he found zamasu annoying. Thiis is something the omni king would do.

I know.... I kinda watched it just like everyone else did?

My point is everyone on here tries to pretend that they know what's going to happen.

Honestly? I don't think he will do it. Zeno and Goku are friends now. There's no way Zeno knows Goku is going to win it all and risk killing him and his family.

But we will have to see. I didn't think Trunks would get his entire timeline wiped out, so I won't pretend to assume anything either.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So, the new arc is manga based huh..
I expect great things Toyotaro.
It's clear Toie is trying so damn hard to appeal to fans and raise their standards..

And copying a non rushed Toyotaro is the best way to do so..

It's not following the manga. The manga only has this one preview.

I would like to believe toie won't show manga chapters in a trailer if it wasn't being used in some way..
Toyotaro said information will go from him to toie so there's that too..
It all adds up to seemingly them using manga as base..

That's such a tremendous leap. I don't know what else to say, it's just far too quick to jump to that conclusion.

[ArchedThunder]

Statements from the last Jump convention about his progress on the current month's chapter would seem to imply otherwise. I wonder if he's not just pulling double duty. Having already scripted the Future Trunks Arc long ago and just finishing up drawing the chapters, while also scripting and drawing the upcoming arc in his "free" time. Similar to how Toriyama would work on Slump or Dragon Ball, but still manage to put out one-shots for certain competitions and stuff.

It'll be interesting to see how many scenes are like for like between the anime and manga.