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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:55 pm

DB's universe runs off Loony Tunes-esc cartoon physics and the characters are perfectly aware, we just mainly only see it in the earlier portions of the series because the series becomes a bit darker later on. It would explain things like Hercule surviving being hit into the side of a mountain by Cell and the Dr Slump cross over would make more sense.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Fizzer » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:39 pm

None of the humans ever became more powerful than Ginyu, not including while using life-draining techniques like the kikoho. Kuririn had a huge power boost on Namek, that made him far more powerful than a human could be otherwise, and it brought him up to some level far weaker than Reacoom, who beat him, Gohan and Vegeta all at the same time with ease. There wasn't really anywhere else for more power to come from, there were no more magical power boosts for the humans, they don't gain strength from near death experiences like Saiyans do, they didn't assimilate anyone, they just did fairly normal training by themselves. Maybe Kuririn increased his battle power but a couple more thousand while training, maybe Tenshinhan is somehow still a bit more power despite never having the boost from the Grand Elder, but it's a stretch to imagine them ever matching Reacoome, never mind Ginyu. Simply put, they're already human, and that's as far as they can go. It isn't physically possible for them to match aliens like Freeza. Maybe if they had Old Kaioshin boost their power to "beyond its limits" they could break those kinds of barriers, but none of them ever did that.

I believe it was Piccolo's DNA that made Cell try to spread fear, make a television broadcast and want to fight Goku one on one in a tournament, and that it was Vegeta's that made him try to bring out Gohan's power. With Gohan, Cell made exactly the same mistake that Vegeta did by allowing Cell to become complete, for the same reasons.

At the end of GT, Goku became a god that has the role of "protector". He exists always, and simply appears when needed to uphold peace in the universe.

A demon is something that one becomes by letting the evil in them take over them completely. Someone who is completely evil or completely righteous has much greater magical/spiritual powers than someone who is a combination of both.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by soulnova » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:30 pm

Vegeta's mom is in fact half-Saiyan, half-Tsufuru... explaining why her two children are shrimps compared to the rest of the Siayan race. Just... JUST LOOK AT THEM. Of course, this was a secret well kept even from the King as she proved herself powerful and worthy during the war, no one suspected a thing.

Bardock and Turles are twin brothers. Turles didn't like the idea of the Saiyans bowing to Frieza after the war and simply decided to go on his own.

Yamcha didn't cheat on Bulma, but it looked like it. Maybe he was helping some girl somewhere, missed some calls and Bulma found him in a very compromising pose.

There are a couple of Frieza's men that were killed by him living peacefully on Earth after the battle of Namek like Ginyu!Frog. Lots of people were also revived on the conquered planets, throwing the Empire into chaos for a while.

Uub and Pan hook up later when they I grown up. I actually didn't like them on GT but after writing Journey's End, I have a new respect for them and I see they could be together if things are right.

Speaking of Pan... she has a chance of have been born in Trunks' timeline if Videl was still alive. 8)

Mirai Trunks wakes 16 to help him protect the Earth.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Saimaroimaru » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:11 am

After Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, he spent some time and continued to up to his fate on Namek hunting down what was left of the Saiyans.

As above I do think there are other Saiyan survivors but like with Goku and Vegeta's bloodline, will be diffuse through the generations by whatever genetically compatible race they find.

King Kai was replaced as North Kai and he is just hanging around in Grand Kai's planet in retirement.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:09 am

soulnova wrote:Vegeta's mom is in fact half-Saiyan, half-Tsufuru... explaining why her two children are shrimps compared to the rest of the Siayan race. Just... JUST LOOK AT THEM. Of course, this was a secret well kept even from the King as she proved herself powerful and worthy during the war, no one suspected a thing.

Bardock and Tullece are twin brothers. Tullece didn't like the idea of the Saiyans bowing to Freeza after the war and simply decided to go on his own.

Yamcha didn't cheat on Bulma, but it looked like it. Maybe he was helping some girl somewhere, missed some calls and Bulma found him in a very compromising pose.

There are a couple of Freeza's men that were killed by him living peacefully on Earth after the battle of Namek like Ginyu!Frog. Lots of people were also revived on the conquered planets, throwing the Empire into chaos for a while.

Uub and Pan hook up later when they I grown up. I actually didn't like them on GT but after writing Journey's End, I have a new respect for them and I see they could be together if things are right.

Speaking of Pan... she has a chance of have been born in Trunks' timeline if Videl was still alive. 8)

Mirai Trunks wakes 16 to help him protect the Earth.
It is really funny how Raditz is Goku's brother, yet looks nothing like him. And we got someone like Turles who looks like a total Goku twin or Bardock twin, yet no relation between them is ever once discussed in the story.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ForestEquilibrium » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:21 am

- Dr. Gero designed #19 and #16's appearances after people he knew in his life (i.e. the former being an ex-assistant of his, and the latter from one of the soldiers in the RRA)

- Cell had no soul, being an bioengineered amalgamation and all, so he therefore wasn't even able to be purified and reincarnated.

- Boo has no bones, he has just has "harder" parts of whatever-rubbery-stuff-his-skin-is-made-of to give the impression he has elbows, knees and other joints.

- On the subject of Boo, I wouldn't doubt his origin is similar to Janemba's in that Bibidi used the evil energies from the purification process and magically transformed them into a demonic being. This could also explain how he got involved with the Kaioshins.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:52 am

Gyumao has demon blood in him. This explains his title, his size, his strength and also Chichi's unnatural barely trained strength. It also explains why Gohan is able to top everyone else in terms of strength.
Goten is just the odd one out, not all siblings have the same abilities.
This makes Pan go full circle with all the demon stuff.
Also Goku Junior and all his weird Super Saiyan spazzing out.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by soduh2 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:25 am

Yamcha's career as a baseball player is the opposite of his career as a Martial artist. He's actually wealthy and well respected because unlike the others he doesn't do steroids.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Pantalones » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:20 am

I really like a few of these.
Vegeta's mom is in fact half-Saiyan, half-Tsufuru... explaining why her two children are shrimps compared to the rest of the Saiyan race.
Bardock and Tullece are twin brothers. Tullece didn't like the idea of the Saiyans bowing to Freeza after the war and simply decided to go on his own.
Boo has no bones, he has just has "harder" parts of whatever-rubbery-stuff-his-skin-is-made-of to give the impression he has elbows, knees and other joints.
Yamcha's career as a baseball player is the opposite of his career as a Martial artist. He's actually wealthy and well respected because unlike the others he doesn't do steroids.
Also, I always thought that #16 pretty much developed a soul during his brief time awake (becoming self-aware and deciding not to continue trying to kill Goku despite his programming, and even fighting against a fellow Gero creation by trying to destroy Cell twice, first to protect #17 and #18 and then to protect Earth itself), and as a result he counted as "someone" rather than "something" by the time he was killed and was then brought back by the wish to revive everyone killed by Cell. Presumably he's living out in the woods with #17 so he can watch the birdies in peace.

And GT is the end result of that scene in the anime where Buu tries to cause some dimensional disturbance and destroy everything. Turns out that even though he wasn't able to go quite that far with it, he did leave some nasty scars on the laws of physics, and they... don't quite work as well (or as consistently) now as they did before.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:18 am

Pantalones wrote:Also, I always thought that #16 pretty much developed a soul during his brief time awake (becoming self-aware and deciding not to continue trying to kill Goku despite his programming, and even fighting against a fellow Gero creation by trying to destroy Cell twice, first to protect #17 and #18 and then to protect Earth itself), and as a result he counted as "someone" rather than "something" by the time he was killed and was then brought back by the wish to revive everyone killed by Cell. Presumably he's living out in the woods with #17 so he can watch the birdies in peace.
I have said something like this before :P albeit not the whole thing about 16 having a soul. I did say I believe that he was brought back and is living in the northern woods with 17 and 8. It's on one of the previous pages.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Saimaroimaru » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:08 pm

soduh2 wrote:Yamcha's career as a baseball player is the opposite of his career as a Martial artist. He's actually wealthy and well respected because unlike the others he doesn't do steroids.
Naw, he just has the power to blow up the planet on a whim. LOL.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:18 pm

Saimaroimaru wrote:
soduh2 wrote:Yamcha's career as a baseball player is the opposite of his career as a Martial artist. He's actually wealthy and well respected because unlike the others he doesn't do steroids.
Naw, he just has the power to blow up the planet on a whim. LOL.
Yamcha? Are you high?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:43 pm

DNA wrote:Naw, he just has the power to blow up the planet on a whim. LOL.
Yamcha? Are you high?[/quote]
He has the power (he is stronger than Saiyan arc Goku & Vegeta by the Artificial Humans arc), but I don't think he has the proper techniques to destroy a planet, from what we know.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:56 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He has the power (he is stronger than Saiyan arc Goku & Vegeta by the Artificial Humans arc), but I don't think he has the proper techniques to destroy a planet, from what we know.
Apart from that ridiculous filler of the gang defeating the Ginyu's, where was that ever stated?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:18 pm

DNA wrote:Apart from that ridiculous filler of the gang defeating the Ginyu's, where was that ever stated?
When #19 & #20 detected Yamcha's power, they thought that he was Goku. The last time they detected Goku's power, it was during Saiyan arc, and they had calculated that Goku would be stronger at that point. So, Yamcha is stronger than Saiyan arc Goku.

It wasn't implied anything about how Yamcha compares to Vegeta, but I think it's just common sense that Yamcha would be over 20.000, since he trained with Kaio, then trained by himself for 2 years, and then even harder for another 3 years. The Earthlings had the same, or bigger power gains than Goku when they trained under the same master as Goku did before them (only for Goku to do training with a greater master than his previous, thus not letting the Earthlings go ahead of him), just look how strong they were in Saiyan arc. Chaozu had surpassed Goku & Piccolo from the beginning of the arc.

The reason that (base) Goku got too much ahead of them was because he got lots of near-death power-ups on his way too Namek, and on Namek. Tenshinhan & Yamcha should be above than Saiyan arc Vegeta during the Artificial Humans arc, IMO. Kuririn was already thanks to Saichouro, but Chaozu was said to be unable to keep up, so I doubt he had any huge gains.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by bleed0range » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:26 pm

* Kid Boo (pure boo) was pure evil and was technically invincible (despite what Goku thought about being able to kill fat boo) and the Genki Dama was the only thing that could kill him because he was pure evil.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Saiga » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:39 am

Yeah I don't think Yamcha is really a planet buster. I still doubt if Vegeta was able to blow up Earth.

Here's a fanon of mine: Naming a technique gives it more power. Just because.
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Post by Insertclevername » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:43 am

Saiga wrote: Here's a fanon of mine: Naming a technique gives it more power. Just because.
What about Gotenks? :lol:
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