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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:49 pm

People who wanted to buy the Dragon Boxes gave up (Blu-ray.com users) and decided to stick to the FUNi DBZ BD's.

It's a good alternative, but if they really wanted they should've bought them early as they came out.
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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:07 pm

A possible Blue-ray release of the Dragon Boxes is their only salvation now... :(

These would be something I would even get right as they came out. I plan on buying a PS3, or :lol:, a PS4, since it will be a long time until I could afford either, so having them on Blue-Ray, with better picture AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, better sound quality for the Japanese audio, these would be a must buy.

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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:21 pm

I don't see that ever coming about, it would just canibalize their sales of the level sets and the dragonboxes

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Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:34 pm

rs_chaosmaster wrote:I don't see that ever coming about, it would just canibalize their sales of the level sets and the dragonboxes
The Dragon Boxes have all but been completely sold. By spring of 2012, I bet you won't be able to find a single new one for a decent price.

These level sets are aimed towards the funi-dub fans who want it for their big screen tv's and their surround sound super high-tech crap.

After their level sets are all released would be a good time for them to do a DBox Blue-ray release. But I do agree that we will probably never see this. All I'm waiting for now is Dragon Box: The Movies, to come out.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:38 pm

dprez wrote:These level sets are aimed towards the funi-dub fans who want it for their big screen tv's and their surround sound super high-tech crap.

After their level sets are all released would be a good time for them to do a DBox Blue-ray release. But I do agree that we will probably never see this. All I'm waiting for now is Dragon Box: The Movies, to come out.
No, they're aimed for Dragon Ball Z fans in general. If they weren't, they wouldn't include the Japanese audio.
Sadly, as far as we know, the Dragon Boxes were only remastered in 480p.

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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:44 pm

Yes i see the next release being a reanimated version of Z done by Toei and in 3d in all honesty. Hopefully I am wrong because that means they will get more money of mine :'(!!! Id rather they do a new dragonball series then rerelease the Dragon Boxes on Blu Ray!!!

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Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:48 pm

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dprez wrote:These level sets are aimed towards the funi-dub fans who want it for their big screen tv's and their surround sound super high-tech crap.

After their level sets are all released would be a good time for them to do a DBox Blue-ray release. But I do agree that we will probably never see this. All I'm waiting for now is Dragon Box: The Movies, to come out.
No, they're aimed for Dragon Ball Z fans in general. If they weren't, they wouldn't include the Japanese audio.
Sadly, as far as we know, the Dragon Boxes were only remastered in 480p.

The Japanese audio is crap compared to the English audio on these level sets, just like in the dragon boxes. Plus the english voice actors signatures are on the inside of the box. If that crap was on my Dragon Boxes, I'd be pissed...

Since the remastering job is not the same as the Dragon Box masters, this is not a release for fans of the original who want that in it's best quality. It's made so that the english version is superior, and can be watched at it's highest quality on the most high-tech entertainment devices by fans of the Funi-Dub and Faulconers score. Still the same crappy orange brick picture quality, but just a blue-ray version. So a little better but still, the Japanese version was yet again just a plus for the minority of original dub fans, just like it was for the orange bricks.

The DragonBoxes are still the best release of the pure, original and unaltered Japanese version in the states.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:53 pm

dprez wrote:The Japanese audio is crap compared to the English audio on these level sets, just like in the dragon boxes. Plus the english voice actors signatures are on the inside of the box. If that crap was on my Dragon Boxes, I'd be pissed...

Since the remastering job is not the same as the Dragon Box masters, this is not a release for fans of the original who want that in it's best quality. It's made so that the english version is superior, and can be watched at it's highest quality on the most high-tech entertainment devices by fans of the Funi-Dub and Faulconers score.

The DragonBoxes are still the best release of the pure, original and unaltered Japanese version in the states.
And it's about as good as it'll ever sound, because that mono mix is all they have. They can just magically make it sound better. I've said this before, if they didn't intend for Japanese fans to watch it, they wouldn't have included the audio and subtitles. And it doesn't have to be aimed at fans of the Faulconer score. It DEFAULTS to the dub with the Japanese music, and it's a higher quality mix than the dub music. I don't get why people automatically think dub fan = Faulconer fan.

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Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:57 pm

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dprez wrote:The Japanese audio is crap compared to the English audio on these level sets, just like in the dragon boxes. Plus the english voice actors signatures are on the inside of the box. If that crap was on my Dragon Boxes, I'd be pissed...

Since the remastering job is not the same as the Dragon Box masters, this is not a release for fans of the original who want that in it's best quality. It's made so that the english version is superior, and can be watched at it's highest quality on the most high-tech entertainment devices by fans of the Funi-Dub and Faulconers score.

The DragonBoxes are still the best release of the pure, original and unaltered Japanese version in the states.
And it's about as good as it'll ever sound, because that mono mix is all they have. They can just magically make it sound better. I've said this before, if they didn't intend for Japanese fans to watch it, they wouldn't have included the audio and subtitles. And it doesn't have to be aimed at fans of the Faulconer score. It DEFAULTS to the dub with the Japanese music, and it's a higher quality mix than the dub music. I don't get why people automatically think dub fan = Faulconer fan.
Because for most people who prefer the english voices, they also prefer Faulconers score.

Yea, I guess all they had for the Japanese audio was mono, but these level sets are still aimed for fans of the english version, while the dragon boxes are aimed for fans of the original. Even though the level sets are in blue-ray, IMO they are still inferior to the dragon boxes Japanese version.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:01 pm

dprez wrote:Because for most people who prefer the english voices, they also prefer Faulconers score.
Do you have a source for this? Because I'm pretty sure, a) most fans aren't even aware of the multiple soundtracks, they just watch the show. Maybe not here, but find a few Dragon Ball Z fans in the wild, and ask them who Bruce Faulconer is. And also, b) if that were true, they would default to the dub with dub music track, and it wouldn't be stereo, it would be in 5.1 and the dub with Japanese score would be in stereo.
dprez wrote:Yea, I guess all they had for the Japanese audio was mono, but these level sets are still aimed for fans of the english version, while the dragon boxes are aimed for fans of the original. Even though the level sets are in blue-ray, IMO they are still inferior to the dragon boxes Japanese version.
Other than title cards, credits, and next episode previews, which I don't care about, the level sets are superior in every way.

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Post by dballfan » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:05 pm

rs_chaosmaster wrote:Yes i see the next release being a reanimated version of Z done by Toei and in 3d in all honesty. Hopefully I am wrong because that means they will get more money of mine :'(!!! Id rather they do a new dragonball series then rerelease the Dragon Boxes on Blu Ray!!!
Image Not in 3D lol.
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Pokewhiz7 wrote:
dprez wrote:These level sets are aimed towards the funi-dub fans who want it for their big screen tv's and their surround sound super high-tech crap.

After their level sets are all released would be a good time for them to do a DBox Blue-ray release. But I do agree that we will probably never see this. All I'm waiting for now is Dragon Box: The Movies, to come out.
No, they're aimed for Dragon Ball Z fans in general. If they weren't, they wouldn't include the Japanese audio.
Sadly, as far as we know, the Dragon Boxes were only remastered in 480p.

The Japanese audio is crap compared to the English audio on these level sets, just like in the dragon boxes. Plus the english voice actors signatures are on the inside of the box. If that crap was on my Dragon Boxes, I'd be pissed...

Since the remastering job is not the same as the Dragon Box masters, this is not a release for fans of the original who want that in it's best quality. It's made so that the english version is superior, and can be watched at it's highest quality on the most high-tech entertainment devices by fans of the Funi-Dub and Faulconers score. Still the same crappy orange brick picture quality, but just a blue-ray version. So a little better but still, the Japanese version was yet again just a plus for the minority of original dub fans, just like it was for the orange bricks.

The DragonBoxes are still the best release of the pure, original and unaltered Japanese version in the states.

Image I'm sorry but 1.1 is the best quality available...And is definitely not the "same crappy orange brick quality" And its Blu Ray not Blue-Ray ;) As for being the best release that's down to opinion and what you prefer - would you rather a more collectable set and one with all the content, if so than yes it is. But. for the best quality it is 1.1.

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Post by KiddoCabbusses » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:06 pm

dprez wrote:[Still the same crappy orange brick picture quality, but just a blue-ray version.
Debating DBox vs. Blu-Rays aside, either you're uninformed or this is an out-and-out lie.

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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:08 pm

I strongly disagree the level sets are great don't get me wrong but, the experience from the Dragon Box is something extremely special!! In addition to awesome full color episode books having the previews, Title cards, etc adds to the experience and how DBZ was meant to be viewed!!! Honestly I prefer the Dragon Box colors to the level sets. But the level sets have a huge advantage over the dragon boxes, since they are on Blu Ray you really have to try to damage then to ruin the set while the dragon boxes a couple scratches on the disc and they could be ruined :'(

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rs_chaosmaster wrote:I strongly disagree the level sets are great don't get me wrong but, the experience from the Dragon Box is something extremely special!! In addition to awesome full color episode books having the previews, Title cards, etc adds to the experience and how DBZ was meant to be viewed!!! Honestly I prefer the Dragon Box colors to the level sets. But the level sets have a huge advantage over the dragon boxes, since they are on Blu Ray you really have to try to damage then to ruin the set while the dragon boxes a couple scratches on the disc and they could be ruined :'(
Sadly, the Level sets have better picture. Even though I'm fine with DBoxes, in terms of picture, they are beaten by the Level sets, and in terms of audio, they are beaten by the original broadcast. :( AT least the DBoxes beats all of them in content. 8)
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:18 pm

Well, Lance said on the latest ANNCast that they have still to decide if Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT will get Dragon Boxes. :(
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Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:19 pm

o i pray for a DragonBox blue-ray release.

I ain't ever getting the level sets..

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:22 pm

dprez wrote:o i pray for a DragonBox blue-ray release.

I ain't ever getting the level sets..
I've already told you, as far as we know, the Dragon Boxes were only done at 480p. And since Kai was a flop, I dunno if they'd make a new remaster...

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JulieYBM wrote:Well, Lance said on the latest ANNCast that they have still to decide if Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT will get Dragon Boxes. :(
Well, at least we know they're aware of them. :wink:
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:23 pm

dprez wrote:o i pray for a DragonBox blue-ray release.

I ain't ever getting the level sets..
I also pray for a DBox BR, but even if it has the true colors, I doubt they will put the true audio quality, if FUNi ever do this. Now, if Toei ever do this, I think the true audio is possible, but the impossible is that Toei will actualy do this... :(
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Mountain » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:25 pm

dballfan wrote:Image I'm sorry but 1.1 is the best quality available...And is definitely not the "same crappy orange brick quality" And its Blu Ray not Blue-Ray ;) As for being the best release that's down to opinion and what you prefer - would you rather a more collectable set and one with all the content, if so than yes it is. But. for the best quality it is 1.1.
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Post by dprez » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:38 pm

Well, the Dragon Boxes will work for when I'm watching by myself, but these level sets seam like they would be perfect when watching with a bunch of people.

Some of my friends would complain in the past when watching the orange bricks, " Sorry bro, I know it's better in Japanese, but it's so hard to watch when trying to read subtitles". So this "Blu-ray" version, with it's optimum video/audio quality, would work wonderfully when in a room with a big flat screen and a kik-ass sound system, with a bunch of people at a party or w/e.

It's just lame they are releasing them the way they are, with the 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, ect...it'll take until 2015 to complete the set!

The DragonBoxes are my baby's, but these level sets would be the preferred method of watching with others who want to/must/can only watch it in english, but of course, with the japanese audio. :wink:

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