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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–4)

Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:25 pm

VegettoEX wrote:It's out every Monday, the same as it's been since its initial release (minus the one week it had off). It's out whenever Weekly Shōnen Jump hits store shelves that morning in print in Japan, and it's out a little after noon eastern time in English via Viz's digital Weekly Shonen Jump.
Well, next week's Japanese Weekly Shōnen Jump will be out Saturday this week because Monday is a national holiday (Respect-for-the-Aged Day). Probably the same thing the following week, actually, since the Monday after next is also a holiday (the first day of autumn).
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by Chuquita » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:47 am

Toriyama's author comment this week is about how he had his "first two-day vacation in over a year". Vacation from what? Makes it sound like he still has some type of regular job. I was under the impression he was retired aside from occasional Dragon Quest designs, and his participation in helping make BOG which has been over for a while now.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by MagicBox » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:07 am

That confused me, too. What does he need to take a break from? It always amazes me just how little we actually know about Toriyama. The only thing I can think of is that he started writing/sketching for Jaco immediately after his Battle Of Gods work. He did say he's been planning this series for over a year.

Anyway, I can't wait for next Monday. Cliffhanger! I guess chapter 10 will wrap up our main story, while chapter "10+1" will be our epilogue connecting the series to Dragon Ball. It's so weird to think that we only have two chapters left. I feel like we just got started!
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by medama_oyaji » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:26 am

Maybe Toriyama's still working on the final chapters? We know that he's been working on them for a while, but at a slower pace. It's possible that he's not quite done yet. Other than that? I dunno, maybe he has obligations to attend meetings about the franchise or something...

Anyway, according to leaked WSJ info, the next chapter will be 31 pages!

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Post by Brodes » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:31 pm

Or maybe he just wanted a break to prevent those health issues flaring up? Does it really matter?

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Post by medama_oyaji » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:17 am

We're not complaining or even asking why he took a break. We're wondering what he took a break from. From some of his comments about having worked on Jaco for some time, some of us thought that perhaps he was actually already done with the series.

I think it's interesting to ponder what our beloved author is working on right now. As I said above, my guess is that even though he got a head start, he's still not quite done with the final chapters of Jaco. Making comics is hard work!

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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:25 am

He's probably done by now. Chapters are usually done a couple weeks in advance, and according to the Jump LIVE interview from only a couple of chapters into the series (only printed a couple weeks ago for English readers), all he had left was to ink some of the last pages. That vacation he mentioned may have actually been after he finished the last of the inking for the series.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by medama_oyaji » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:37 am

That makes sense to me, except that it's strange that he refers to it as a "two day" vacation. After Jaco he's supposedly retiring from manga, so what could he be coming back to after two days? Perhaps he means that he went out of town for two days to celebrate and wasn't sure what to do in that time...

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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:00 pm

Maybe he's coming back to start work with Toei on the animated adaptation...?

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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–3)

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:43 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Maybe he's coming back to start work with Toei on the animated adaptation...?
Nah, he will probably start directing the new DBZ episodes. He did say that in an interview, didn't he? :P
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–2)

Post by Mewzard » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:07 pm

Well, apparently DB-2 is the second to last chapter. I've really enjoyed it thus far and wonder how it's going to end. Think it will be an extra-long chapter to wrap things up?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:26 pm

32 pages left. So the epilogue next week will be about the same as the "final" chapter from today.
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Post by mAcChaos » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:11 am

Has there been anything pointing more definitively to a DB connection yet?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:34 am

mAcChaos wrote:Has there been anything pointing more definitively to a DB connection yet?
Other than the Japanese Jump promotions directly saying it's related to Dragon Ball? Not really. As Kei pointed out up above though: "a legendary character" will appear in the epilogue.

Everything in Jaco predates Dr. Slump and DB on the timeline (using Slump's actual calendar and not DB's AGE system) and an race of evil aliens has sent a ship to Earth...it's most likely to be baby Kakarotto.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–2)

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:18 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Everything in Jaco predates Dr. Slump and DB on the timeline (using Slump's actual calendar and not DB's AGE system) and an race of evil aliens has sent a ship to Earth...it's most likely to be baby Kakarotto.
How do we know that Jaco is set before Dr. Slump? Do we know the date that Jaco takes place?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:32 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How do we know that Jaco is set before Dr. Slump? Do we know the date that Jaco takes place?
Well, it doesn't have to predate Dr. Slump since Arale was born in 1980. But the early mention of the brutal and fearsome alien that is being sent to Earth, the fact that the lady Jaco rescues gives him Showa era money (1958-1984) and Toriyama saying that the final chapter has a surprise that will explain why the setting feels old (combined with the recent mention of a "legendary character" appearing) are just a couple of things pushing for this to be Goku's arrival, pre-Slump era.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–2)

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:49 am

Dragon Ball begins in year 1984 (going by real-life/Dr. Slump dates), so Jaco should take place in 1972.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–2)

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:11 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Dragon Ball begins in year 1984 (going by real-life/Dr. Slump dates), so Jaco should take place in 1972.
And that falls within the Showa Era, fitting with the currency Jaco received. So, pretty much, yeah. That's the time frame we should be looking at since everything seems to fit...unless Toriyama sucks with dates in Jaco as bad as he (maybe Watanabe) did in Battle of Gods...

Also to note, Omori says at the beginning of the manga that the events happened around 10 years ago. That would put things around the end of Dr. Slump and the start of Dragon Ball for his present time in terms of the narrative, depending on how literal he was being with his estimate.
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Re: "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion thread (DB–2)

Post by sangofe » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:59 pm

Is there a way for me, who lives in Norway, to buy this?

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