Goku's mother...appearing soon?!

[crisis]

It'll be hilarious if Toriyama states in another interview that "Gine" might have even turned Super Saiyan at one point, and leave it at that. The fanbase will go insane

on the bright side, if that happens, at least we'll know who the first female Super Saiyan was!

[Babbu]

I have a question for the translators or anyone who can read Japanese. Reading this it seemed that the questions about any back story on Goku's mother or whether we'd ever see Vegeta again seemed kinda leading. As in the questions were designed with the answers already in mind. Is this a fair way of seeing it or was that just how things get lost in translation?

[penguintruth]

I think I prefer that Goku's parents be one mass-murdering prick who tried to be semi-heroic and was easily destroyed utterly because he's a nobody and a woman not even important enough to name.

This comes off as being like how writers of the Superman comics eventually felt like they had to explain every little detail of his life, his parents' lives, their parents, their parents' parents, and so on. Do we need to know what Krypto's mother's breeder's cousin's father's favorite soft drink was? Who actually wants that? How does that add anything?

I don't want Goku to be of a great lineage. Goku is great because he's great himself, because he worked hard and overcame nearly all limits, not because his father was also great.

[TheBlackPaladin]

It'll be hilarious if Toriyama states in another interview that "Gine" might have even turned Super Saiyan at one point, and leave it at that. The fanbase will go insane

Insane? No, just very mad. Add the announcement a spin-off anime series about Gine's ascent to Super Saiyan called "Dragon Ball AF," and then you will see insanity.

[Gozar]

Goku's mom? The story of how Goku was born out of love, a woman always having to be saved by the manly bardock? Such a pathetic fighter that she quit the forces? Sounds a lot like what I'd expct from literally Naruto.

Let's not forget that she also began work at some meat plant. So for all intents and purposes, she got sent to the kitchen...Ugh...

[coola]

I agree with penguintruth, i know it is shonen manga, but, there was something that make me root for Goku, when you learn, that he was supposed to be just "low class scum" send to backwater planet, yet, thanks to training and determination, he managed to gain power rivaling those of strongest in the universe, by making him son of (as for now) 1st known Legendary Super Saiyan, you kind steal that charm from him

[SaiyaJedi]

I have a question for the translators or anyone who can read Japanese. Reading this it seemed that the questions about any back story on Goku's mother or whether we'd ever see Vegeta again seemed kinda leading. As in the questions were designed with the answers already in mind. Is this a fair way of seeing it or was that just how things get lost in translation?

I doubt Naho Ooishi was just allowed to ask whatever. She probably had her questions vetted, and might even have had some "suggestions" about what to ask. Certainly, the stuff about Goku's mother seemed as much like a way of plugging the tankōbon of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman as anything else.

That said, I wouldn't read too deeply into talk about a new movie just yet; at least, not until something is officially announced.

[Marco Polo]

Guys what if Goku's mother is the descendant of the good Saiyans from the original Super Saiyan God's team?

[Mystic Buu]

Hmmm...Toriyama begins to make good Saiyans suddenly.I think the reason of that is Battle of Gods and pure-hearted Saiyans.

[Blade]

I think I prefer that Goku's parents be one mass-murdering prick who tried to be semi-heroic and was easily destroyed utterly because he's a nobody and a woman not even important enough to name.

This comes off as being like how writers of the Superman comics eventually felt like they had to explain every little detail of his life, his parents' lives, their parents, their parents' parents, and so on. Do we need to know what Krypto's mother's breeder's cousin's father's favorite soft drink was? Who actually wants that? How does that add anything?

I don't want Goku to be of a great lineage. Goku is great because he's great himself, because he worked hard and overcame nearly all limits, not because his father was also great.

Yeah, I've got to agree with this - it just feels incredibly forced, lacking in any real merit of its own and, quite frankly, unnecessary.

[SylentEcho]

It'll be hilarious if Toriyama states in another interview that "Gine" might have even turned Super Saiyan at one point, and leave it at that. The fanbase will go insane

on the bright side, if that happens, at least we'll know who the first female Super Saiyan was!

I really hope that doesn't happen. That would be overdoing it.

Not cut out for battle huh? Sounds a bit like Gohan. I wonder if she had any latent power or rage like his.

[Chuquita]

Maybe during one of those Gohan-like moments of temporary rage she did something she regretted and that's why she quit the team and went on to become a butcher.

I'm still picturing female Gohan here with the character description, only without Piccolo's influence.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Hmmm...Toriyama begins to make good Saiyans suddenly.I think the reason of that is Battle of Gods and pure-hearted Saiyans.

For some reason I see this as a tool hes going to use for their circle ritual... I can see Goku's mother coming back to them like Tarble did and then replacing Goku in the circle when they transfer their energy to Vegeta.

My only issue with Super Saiyan God is the ritual itself which just feels...non-Dragon Ball.

That is exactly it. Its the only real gripe me and others have shed on what really ruined the BoG's fim. Just the transformation itself didn't feel like Dragonball. Even for being a calm transition into other-worldly abilities it still looked too corny to really accept when looking at DBZ. It is another another thing I'd expect Naruto or a Magical girl series to do...not Goku and especially NOT vegeta.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Considering Goku never met either of his parents, I don't see how what his mom was like could contradict the head-bump/Gohan raising him being why he's the way he is, at all. It can add to why he's the way he is, yes, and I can see how a lot of people wouldn't want that, but it in no way contradicts or takes away from that.

And it still strikes me as odd that nobody but me seems to have ever thought it was weird that there was an entire race that every single one of them was evil. That just seems...off, to me. A majority of the Saiyans were warlike, that's all fine and dandy, but it just makes sense that some of them HAD to have been too weak-willed or...for lack of a better term, kind-hearted, to have been very effective in their society. So Table, kind-hearted Saiyans in the past, that all works for me. My only issue with Super Saiyan God is the ritual itself which just feels...non-Dragon Ball.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

It'll be hilarious if Toriyama states in another interview that "Gine" might have even turned Super Saiyan at one point, and leave it at that. The fanbase will go insane
on the bright side, if that happens, at least we'll know who the first female Super Saiyan was!

I really hope that doesn't happen. That would be overdoing it.
Not cut out for battle huh? Sounds a bit like Gohan. I wonder if she had any latent power or rage like his.

Oh-God not that again.... it would only enforce Goku's Supersayian "destiny" foreshadow, or reenforce that absurdity Gohan started.

I would have enjoyed this idea a lot more if Bardock never became a SSJ but both Bardock and Gine were rejects themselves as well with many others that would eventually make Tarble, Bardock's Friends and Turles (who seperated himself from planet Vegeta as well but decides to cheat his way up the ladder) with weak powers but Bardock's determination to push himself was what made him into the brute that basically made him so abnormally strong for a low-class soldier. His hard work, Saiyan-pride and refusal to give up.

[Marco Polo]

Considering Goku never met either of his parents, I don't see how what his mom was like could contradict the head-bump/Gohan raising him being why he's the way he is, at all. It can add to why he's the way he is, yes, and I can see how a lot of people wouldn't want that, but it in no way contradicts or takes away from that.

And it still strikes me as odd that nobody but me seems to have ever thought it was weird that there was an entire race that every single one of them was evil. That just seems...off, to me. A majority of the Saiyans were warlike, that's all fine and dandy, but it just makes sense that some of them HAD to have been too weak-willed or...for lack of a better term, kind-hearted, to have been very effective in their society. So Table, kind-hearted Saiyans in the past, that all works for me. My only issue with Super Saiyan God is the ritual itself which just feels...non-Dragon Ball.

But the "evil" in the Saiyans isn't supposed to be cultural, it's supposed to be instinctive. It's their instinct to lust for battle and be competitive.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

But the "evil" in the Saiyans isn't supposed to be cultural, it's supposed to be instinctive. It's their instinct to lust for battle and be competitive.

This is all speculation but as far as I know, I think their Pride is purely cultural and their motivation to hunt but they dont really have to kill people, most are trained or raised solely under their pride which is why they dont care. Their "evil" was more so a condition by Freezas system. They're only labelled as evil because killing people in the show is considered universally immoral. They didnt care about anyone who was weak regardless of what they were but only went on mass murder sprees for the thrill of doing so while wanting to please Freeza and earn their honor. Sayians alone are like dogs, they are only really trained to kill by their masters but enjoy the excersize of the activity itself on the basic level. They dont really inherently hate anyone. Freeza hates everyone inferior to him. Sayians who lack pride are often the ones that grow empathy in place of it.

[crisis]

Don't you guys realize? It's the power of love and friendship that always prevails!

Yeah, the ritual was very corny, they could've been a little more creative than that. How many times have we seen "pool all our energies into Goku," except this time it had to be 5 pure-hearted Saiyans. Eehh whatever, it is what it is.

I always seen the Saiyan race as Spartan-like, since they live for battle, etc. I also like and accept the idea that there were a handful of "good" Saiyans in the distant past. I only wish we could actually have seen what some of them looked like, at least the original Super Saiyan God. All they shown was his silhouette. But I guess keeping his identity vague is intruiging. Maybe Toriyama will reveal who he was 5 years from now, lol

I always thought a flashback of a more ancient, primitive Saiyan going Super would be cool, him being similar to Broly, like Vegeta described in the legend (aside from the Golden Great Ape they shown, though.) Just a quick 5 or 10-second clip of a group of Saiyans cowering in fear over this giant ragebeast is all I need

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Goku's mom? The story of how Goku was born out of love, a woman always having to be saved by the manly bardock? Such a pathetic fighter that she quit the forces? Sounds a lot like what I'd expct from literally Naruto.

Let's not forget that she also began work at some meat plant. So for all intents and purposes, she got sent to the kitchen...Ugh...

Hearing the part about her being "constantly saved by Bardock / slowing them down" already makes me hate her... the typical weak, useless and constantly kidnapped character who is just thrown around... then let me guess, she gets a cute little crush on Bardock just for the fact. He treats her so well because he pities her until they eventually sleep together in a cave and create Goku. This is just so not dragonball. I don't want to see Bardock reduced to the Tuxedo-mask of the show.

[crisis]

Well, on the flipside, maybe she was reckless and always rushed first into battle, not giving herself time to assess her opponents, which in turn lead to Bardock always having to "save" her.