New Animation VS Old Animation

[MrWalnut4]

Oh it was probably just as much of a nightmare. I had to redraw most of the side bits of hair and their shading to match and it's still not perfect.

[Attitudefan]

This is what the skin tone should be.

[Alex9196]

I remember Goku's skin tone far more "pinkish".

[Doctor.]

I can't go back to the pink-ish skin tone now that I've seen Super's yellow-ish skin tone for Goku. I don't know, it just looks much better in Super for some reason

[shinmaru]

Original:

He looks old in this picture, older than EOZ Goku

[Metalwario64]

Spoiler:

This is what the skin tone should be.

That's too bright though. Also, it's also only that pink in the Dragon Box footage because everything is more red.

It's not too far off from Kai's colors, just a bit darker and more saturated:


Even that shot that I posted, which I took from the Orange Brick, isn't that bright and pink:

He looks old in this picture, older than EOZ Goku.

Yeah, those unnecessary wrinkles and that nose do make him look older.

[Attitudefan]

The colour tones here are closer than the comparison you have.

[MrWalnut4]

The colour tones here are closer than the comparison you have.

The colors for the skin tones are taken from a cel scan. I'm away from my desktop for the weekend so I'm not sure exactly which it is, but I remember it being from Goku during the Cell games. Here's one I found on Google for comparison. It has either aged poorly or has been altered after it was scanned, but you get the general idea.

[Attitudefan]

Exactly. Whether or not it is darker or lighter, the tone of the colour is the same. They are is the same colour scale.

Here:




The colour is completely different, shade or not. Here he sports the same skin colour tone as Vegeta or Yamcha, when in the series he clearly never did. Goku had the same tone as in that cel which is the same as Roshi, Krillin, and Tenshinhan. Gohan had a comkpletely different tone, where it was shifted towards the greys and yellows. Vegeta and Yamcha had yellow skin tones. Goku always had a pinkish tone, even in the cels.

[Metalwario64]

I'm not saying the Super skin tone is accurate, I'm saying that the correction is too bright and pink. It was never that bright, even in the Orange Brick shot I posted.

Ideally, it should be like this:

[Attitudefan]

I'm not saying the Super skin tone is accurate, I'm saying that the correction is too bright and pink. It was never that bright, even in the Orange Brick shot I posted.

Fair enough. I was more along the line in that it was heading in a better direction than what they had in the anime. I do wish they would also fix Vegeta's hair too.

[Caulifor]

Shouldn't Goku and Goten have the same skin tone? Here's a shot from Z:



And the we go to Super and we have this:



Why would they change Goku's skin tone but keep Goten's more or less the same?

[Metalwario64]

Well, GT did it first.

Maybe someone at Toei really wants Goku to have his tan from Toriyama's colors, consistency be damned?

[MajinMan]

Goku got a tan from working on the fields all day but honestly I don't really see anything wrong with those Super images. I've never really cared much about the art styles unless it got really bad like in that Trunks vs King Cold episode.

[Caulifor]

Well, to be honest I don't really think the new animation (and therefore, Super) looks bad. However, I do prefer the old art style, as it felt more... "alive"? I really don't know how to explain. There's also the fact that I that's how I remember my beloved DB and DBZ looking, and anything new just doesn't feel the same :p

Aside from that, though, I think the episodes are looking completely fine, save for very few scenes. What I'm doing here is just some nitpicking haha

[Attitudefan]

Well, GT did it first.

Maybe someone at Toei really wants Goku to have his tan from Toriyama's colors, consistency be damned?

I'll blame the only one who was responsible for designs in GT and Super.... Yamamuro. I'm starting to really not like him.

[ConfusedPhantom]

You can probably count me in the camp that's more of a fan of how the old animation is drawn. Though, it's only because I'm not really a fan of how they draw the characters in most of the new stuff to be super shiny. The shading is a bit better in the old animation, too.

[VintageSaiyan]

Piccolo performing his special attacks in RoF is all you really need to see to make a judgement on the new animation. God awful.

[JulieYBM]

Piccolo performing his special attacks in RoF is all you really need to see to make a judgement on the new animation. God awful.

No worse than the first three television series. Assigning shots to bad animators will produce a bad work no matter the era.

[Sora Saiyan]

Re: Skin Tone
To be fair Supers skin tone isn't really all that bad if you go by Toriyamas illustrations, infact, in some illustrations I'd say Goku is even more tanned than in Super by quite a bit.