Cetra wrote:He said he checked the plot and then ended up writing it himself so that means he did not have the idea and did not write the plot at first.
Yes, and he also said:
The keywords this time, “God of Destruction Beerus” and “Super Saiyan God”, were suggestions from the scriptwriter, but they were good ideas for presenting a crisis for the main characters, who had grown so strong that they’d reached a point where there was nothing higher. I borrowed these ideas, and after first deciding on Beerus’ character design and background, I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga's] serialization had continued.
Which kind of implies he overhauled pretty much everything from the film other than those elements and that plot would unfold at a party...though he even changed which party they would be at from Kuririn's wedding to Bluma's birthday.
hleV wrote:The major one would be the fact that Goku was excited about Oob during the 28th TB and said that he might even be the victor. Toriyama confirmed that Goku had absorbed the godly power and it had become his own, so Goku being excited about Oob and Oob being a potential winner of the TB can't work. Then there's Mr. Satan having no idea who Dende is. There's also Tarble mentioned, and Tarble comes from a movie with which Toriyama was only involved partially. Also Gohan going SS, Gotenks seemingly not having SS3, Boo getting KO'd without having his body destroyed, etc. I may be forgetting something else, but that should be enough to clearly see that it simply doesn't work.
That's barely even an issue, Mister Satan was drunk and passed out during the film's extended edition. He's lucky he remembers his own name. =P
When was it ever directly stated that Gohan couldn't go Super Saiyan anymore? This is one of those instances I talked about that depends solely on your interpretation of the Ultimate ritual scenes.
Gotenks is cocky and is probably still stronger than everyone there but Gohan (who was probably still drunk) as just a Super Saiyan, and he was defeated in like 3 seconds.
Why does Buu need to have his body destroyed to be KO'd? Never stated anywhere.
And how is Tarble being mentioned an issue? Toriyama may have been less involved with the JSAT, but since he's credited with the original draft of the film, he very well may consider the final product (or at least the general premise of Tarble, Gure and Freeza remnants) as part of his work.
The biggest issue here is the god power and Uub, I admit. But as you can see, we just had a whole 'nother movie announced. So it may not even be an issue, the dots leading from Goku being super juiced on power and falling back to Uub's level just may not be connected yet. Maybe it will end with Goku realizing just how far he fell and looking forward to reaching that level once again when he can train with Uub. It's a waiting game.
