Does Funimation really treat Dragonball that bad?

[Adamant]

And the Japanese don't call him Wukong, so I guess noone's perfect at importing from other languages.

"Son Gokuu" was never really intended as an approximisation of his Chinese name, though, it's simply the Japanese reading of the characters making up his name.

Seriously, by your logic, every character who's name is a word from another language or a pun of such is pronounced "wrong" in Japanese. Like Mr. Satan for example.

Yes, that's a consequence of the limited syllables provided by the Japanese language. I never claimed the Japanese were perfect either, did I?

Of all the dubisms you could get riled up about, how the dub stresses the "o" in Goku is your problem? I'd think King Yemma would be a better start.

Yes, but this entire conversation was sparked from a comment about how Goku's name indeed was changed in the dub. I never said the dub was perfect in every other way (which it most certainly isn't), or that this pronounciation error is it's biggest fault.

You may hate how Americans supposedly pronounce things however they want, but I hate how people from other countries make generalized racist comments like "you Americans," as if to lump an entire country of diverse people into one category. This is often based on some gripe they have with one minor thing (like, say, one vowel in a comic book character's name).

Americans aren't a race, so I never made any racist comment. But all right, I realize I was making my comments a bit more generalized than I should've. Is "most Americans" be acceptable?

You've never held a verbal conversation with me, or likely anyone here, so you don't actually have a damn clue how any of us here pronounce anything.

I was told most people pronounce "Goku" like the FUNi dub does, and as the FUNi dub pronounces it wrong, that makes your pronounciation wrong as well. Simple as that.

[Onikage725]

Hey, at least the FUNi dub didn't pronounce Gohan's name as Go-Han (as in hand) like a certain other English company did.

Who was that?

Americans aren't a race, so I never made any racist comment. But all right, I realize I was making my comments a bit more generalized than I should've. Is "most Americans" be acceptable?

"The term race refers to the concept of dividing people into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of characteristics and beliefs about common ancestry."

Furthermore- "Many scholars maintain race to be a social construct with potent social and political effects but no basis in biological science."

I'm an American. My parents are Americans, and their parents before them. And so on, and so on. On top of which, I am, on my mother's side, Native American (Cherokee to be exact). But fine, if you don't like my self-classification, I am more than willing to settle on the word "biased" if you feel my initial classification was too much.

I was told most people pronounce "Goku" like the FUNi dub does, and as the FUNi dub pronounces it wrong, that makes your pronunciation wrong as well. Simple as that.

See, that is what I think is funny. I didn't make that statement. I have never said the name in your presence. Yet you make you statements about me as if you know me. Let me give you an example. My real name is Ryan. Pronounced like "Rie-an." People, myself included tend to say it fairly evenly, with slight stress on the "Ry." I mentioned before how most native Spanish speakers that I know tend to emphasize the "an." Likewise, as my Cherokee heritage may suggest, I am originally from the south. My southern relatives tend to pronounce my name in a way that most sounds like "Rine" or "Ry-ahn" depending on the specific individual/accent in question. I myself have a "New England" accent, but when I spend time down south I slide back into the southern accent of my childhood, and the way I pronounce certain words becomes noticeably different. And none of it is a big deal.

And neither is the damned "o" in Goku.

[Tsukento]

Who was that?

Unknown group for the UK dubs of the first three movies. You get He-Man voice Goku, "Big Green" instead of Piccolo and horrible acting.

[Adamant]

See, that is what I think is funny. I didn't make that statement. I have never said the name in your presence. Yet you make you statements about me as if you know me.

No, I made statements about the "everyone" Lavender Saiyan was talking about. I was also using the plural "you".

Since we're talking names here, my (foreign) name is Fredrik Jullum. My first name, said with an American accent, would be pronounced like the American name "Frederick". That's accented pronounciation, nothing wrong with that. My last name, however, might be seen by an American as supposed to be read "Dzjull-um". That's incorrect, though - proper, but accented, pronounciation is "Yull-um". The J is not to be voiced, just like the o in "Goku" is not supposed to be said like the dub does, even if you're speaking with an American accent.

And none of it is a big deal.

As I said, it really turned into something much larger than intended. Let's just drop it, eh?

[Toniofalcon]

Lol @ young Go-han. I remember either hearing that in once of the first few Z movies or the Ocean dub.

[Lavender Saiyan]

Wait, let's look at Jackie Chan. He pronounces his name as "Ch-an". As in "Band"...Yet it should actually be pronounced "Ch-ah-n"

[Super Sonic]

The way he pronounces it is the same all my Chinese-American friends with that last name pronounce it.

[Kendamu]

What it is, he's talking about (I think) the style of the American "o". Actually, we don't have the "Oo" he's talking about... though aw or au comes closer than the o in "on"...
In British English, though, 'aw' hits it pretty dead on... maybe a little flat, but not by much.
The English "o", if you'll notice, has a tightening u" sound as it ends... it's kind of cone-shaped? Whereas the Japanese/latin o is less dynamic in its normal form.

And... I think I heard Yajirobe stress the 'u' in the Saban/ocean season 1 when he was listing the heroes to the media?

The problem with me here is that I'm very intensely studying Japanese at the moment and that's really messed up my pronounciation of just about everything in English. My "o" is just an "o." None of that cone stuff you were talkng about.

So, describing it as "aw" really makes no sense to me currently.

[Tsukento]

Lol @ young Go-han. I remember either hearing that in once of the first few Z movies or the Ocean dub.

Just said it was in the UK dub of the first three movies.

[Toniofalcon]

STFU young go-han.