Kanassa wrote:We know Universe 7 survives, we also know universe 10 survives. So there's a chance.
Universe 10 survives for sure? Why?
Gowasu and Zamasu travelled forward in time, past when the tournament would take place and found Universe 10 still intact.
Going by that logic though, wouldn't the other universes be intact still as well? In the future, Black and Zamasu killed the other Kaioshins/GoD's. If they were still around, so where their universes right?
We really have no idea what is going to happen, but I'm sure Uni7 survives of course...
ekrolo2 wrote:
Universe 10 survives for sure? Why?
Gowasu and Zamasu travelled forward in time, past when the tournament would take place and found Universe 10 still intact.
Going by that logic though, wouldn't the other universes be intact still as well? In the future, Black and Zamasu killed the other Kaioshins/GoD's. If they were still around, so where their universes right?
In an alternate timeline. Gowasu went to the future of THIS timeline.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Lord Beerus wrote:Let's be real though... at the end of the day, the universe that have the main cast in it will survive. I mean, given when Super is set, I can't imagine any other kind of ending, unless Toriyama isn't taking the end of the manga into consideration.
Exactly. People should just see Super as its own thing, I mean if we always think about this series having a connection with Z all arcs since RoF has meaningless stakes since they are all fine by the EoZ, so even though something major happens in the next arc there's no feel of real danger at all, unless... (bold)
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
The universe destruction arc makes me realise we haven't really even explored Universe 7.
How many planets do we really know that well? Earth, King Kai's planet, Supreme Kai's planet, Beerus' planet...pyramid...thing... and the now exploded Namek. Arguably the destroyed Planet Vegeta due to flashbacks and Bardock specials too.
That's not really a hell of a lot. Four planets that aren't space dust. You could add New Namek in if you want.
Favourite User quote:
Vice wrote:"Look at all these characters getting some shine in the buildup for the tournament of power, maybe we'll get to see some other characters do some stuff instead of the same old shit."
1. Goku (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitor & Vegeta (Universe 7) has eliminated 6 competitors
Lord Beerus wrote:A new OP pretty much confirms that Super is not gonna finish after this arc, like a few people have assumed. While I'm happy for the new OP we're getting, at the same time, it's a bit of shame that the case because I loved the current OP. Oh well. The PV is also very intriguing, but unfortunately my worst fears have been confirmed... every team that loses has their universe destroyed. Look, I understand that they want to create stakes for tournament, but man this feel like a colossal waste of the potential the others universes could provide. Man, the multiverse concept looks like it's going to wasted on a tournament. I hope there is an underlying plot to this whole thing that would make the pay off of several universe being wasted, but its gotta be the greatest payoff Dragon Ball has ever done for a plotline.
You acting like all the universes will be wiped out, while possible, it's more likely that only some will be to lay on the pressure.
Just like Trunks' timeline right?
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
Lord Beerus wrote:A new OP pretty much confirms that Super is not gonna finish after this arc, like a few people have assumed. While I'm happy for the new OP we're getting, at the same time, it's a bit of shame that the case because I loved the current OP. Oh well. The PV is also very intriguing, but unfortunately my worst fears have been confirmed... every team that loses has their universe destroyed. Look, I understand that they want to create stakes for tournament, but man this feel like a colossal waste of the potential the others universes could provide. Man, the multiverse concept looks like it's going to wasted on a tournament. I hope there is an underlying plot to this whole thing that would make the pay off of several universe being wasted, but its gotta be the greatest payoff Dragon Ball has ever done for a plotline.
You acting like all the universes will be wiped out, while possible, it's more likely that only some will be to lay on the pressure.
Just like Trunks' timeline right?
I don't get your point
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Lord Beerus wrote:A new OP pretty much confirms that Super is not gonna finish after this arc, like a few people have assumed.
Depends how big this arc is gonna be. We got a new opening with Boo arc, and it was the final arc. The opening is called "Limit-Break x Survivor", and it will begin in the Universe Survival arc... seems like the arc is gonna be a big one if they named an opening song after an arc, especially since there are gonna be 120 fighters in the tournament.
Personally though, I really doubt Super will end after this arc, the franchise has been making more & more money ever since Super begun so it wouldn't make sense. But I can see this being Toriyama's final arc for the series, with the formation of the Dragon Room & Toriyama hinting that the series can go on without him if he wants to.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Akyon wrote:The universe destruction arc makes me realise we haven't really even explored Universe 7.
How many planets do we really know that well? Earth, King Kai's planet, Supreme Kai's planet, Beerus' planet...pyramid...thing... and the now exploded Namek. Arguably the destroyed Planet Vegeta due to flashbacks and Bardock specials too.
That's not really a hell of a lot. Four planets that aren't space dust. You could add New Namek in if you want.
This is true. That's why I think they made the jump to godly power and alternate universes way too soon.
I think he's confusing a universe with a timeline. People do that a lot for some reason.
No, I'm saying that Toriyama just may wiped out 11 universes since he had no problem destroying the 12 in Trunks' timeline.
But he immediately had that timeline fixed (Whis' actions don't create a new time ring, he fixed Trunks' timeline, go back & watch the episode. It's weird, it makes no sense, fuck it.) Either way, the point remains that Trunks still had a home to return to.
I predict the upcoming arc will be the largest arc in the series, and may even conclude it. It's leading to what has been anticipated and foreshadowed since BoG was released: an introduction to all the 12 universes (or at least, their strongest warriors). I do admit, the grand priest would make a great end-villain since he's already touted as the strongest fighter in the multiverse, has a relation with Whis and Vados, and is the closest character to Zenos.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
fadeddreams5 wrote:I predict the upcoming arc will be the largest arc in the series, and may even conclude it. It's leading to what has been anticipated and foreshadowed since BoG was released: an introduction to all the 12 universes (or at least, their strongest warriors). I do admit, the grand priest would make a great end-villain since he's already touted as the strongest fighter in the multiverse, has a relation with Whis and Vados, and is the closest character to Zenos.
Or its just the last arc of the current timeframe and then they finally skip ahead to EOZ with Pan, Uub, etc.
I do agree this arc has a "sendoff" vibe to the current cast, but I'm sure Super will continue for years to come.
precita wrote:
Or its just the last arc of the current timeframe and then they finally skip ahead to EOZ with Pan, Uub, etc.
I do agree this arc has a "sendoff" vibe to the current cast, but I'm sure Super will continue for years to come.
I thought the same thing about F but that didn't turn out quite as expected. I do think this would be the perfect final arc for this time frame to have a neat little package from BoG to this arc and then they can do a time to the end of Z.
precita wrote:
Or its just the last arc of the current timeframe and then they finally skip ahead to EOZ with Pan, Uub, etc.
I do agree this arc has a "sendoff" vibe to the current cast, but I'm sure Super will continue for years to come.
I thought the same thing about F but that didn't turn out quite as expected. I do think this would be the perfect final arc for this time frame to have a neat little package from BoG to this arc and then they can do a time to the end of Z.
There was going to be an announcement regarding this arc right? Has that been done and I missed it?
If they didn't mention this as the last arc it won't be..
If this indeed turn out to be toriyama's last arc, ya.. I am not watching db anymore.. no need to feed myself another gt
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
Ki Breaker wrote:There was going to be an announcement regarding this arc right? Has that been done and I missed it?
If they didn't mention this as the last arc it won't be..
If this indeed turn out to be toriyama's last arc, ya.. I am not watching db anymore.. no need to feed myself another gt
That's not what I said, I said it would be a good last arc for this era, as in pre end of Z.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
But he immediately had that timeline fixed (Whis' actions don't create a new time ring, he fixed Trunks' timeline, go back & watch the episode. It's weird, it makes no sense, fuck it.) Either way, the point remains that Trunks still had a home to return to.
His timeline wasn't fixed at all. All Whis did was create another timeline similar to his without Black and Future Zamasu. The world he fought so hard to save is gone, along with all the people he failed. And the new timeline will have their own version of Trunks and Mai. And Beerus said that Whis' actions will create a new Time Ring.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
