"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:29 pm

Since she's mentioned as helping out with the movie I think odds are decent that Great Saiyaman 2 will be in this.

(Maybe Uncle "Piccoyo" is the one taking care of Pan this episode.)
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Post by Grimlock » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:07 pm

Noah wrote:So what are the odds of we see the return of Great Saiyaman 2?
High, as that's a Toei's thing, so whenever Toei has opportunity, they'll do it. Just like adding Gregory and some other fillers characters.

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Post by Noah » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:25 pm

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Noah wrote:So what are the odds of we see the return of Great Saiyaman 2?
High, as that's a Toei's thing, so whenever Toei has opportunity, they'll do it. Just like adding Gregory and some other fillers characters.
Nice, but why you talk like it is a bad thing? No need to have problems with filler characters if they don't harm the story.
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Post by Kanassa » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:15 am

Noah wrote:
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Noah wrote:So what are the odds of we see the return of Great Saiyaman 2?
High, as that's a Toei's thing, so whenever Toei has opportunity, they'll do it. Just like adding Gregory and some other fillers characters.
Nice, but why you talk like it is a bad thing? No need to have problems with filler characters if they don't harm the story.
1. How is that talking like it's a bad thing?
2. He could just not like the Great Saiyaman 2.
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Post by dragonballhero » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:50 am

Wait, so Great Saiyawoman ISN'T a Toriyama property? I mean, I've always thought of that to be just as 'canon' as Gregory.

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Post by Kanassa » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:13 am

dragonballhero wrote:Wait, so Great Saiyawoman ISN'T a Toriyama property? I mean, I've always thought of that to be just as 'canon' as Gregory.
Pretty sure Saiyawoman was a dub-only addition.
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Post by Azelf89 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:12 am

Kanassa wrote:
dragonballhero wrote:Wait, so Great Saiyawoman ISN'T a Toriyama property? I mean, I've always thought of that to be just as 'canon' as Gregory.
Pretty sure Saiyawoman was a dub-only addition.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about how the CONCEPT of Saiyawoman wasn't a Toriyama property, not the name itself.

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Post by Noah » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:50 am

Kanassa wrote:How is that talking like it's a bad thing?
It seemed like as people when they refer to filler tend to see as a always bad thing
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Post by Kanassa » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:01 am

Noah wrote:
Kanassa wrote:How is that talking like it's a bad thing?
It seemed like as people when they refer to filler tend to see as a always bad thing
That's a big assumption. At most the tone of that post was 'Neutral'
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Post by dragonballhero » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:47 pm

Azelf89 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
dragonballhero wrote:Wait, so Great Saiyawoman ISN'T a Toriyama property? I mean, I've always thought of that to be just as 'canon' as Gregory.
Pretty sure Saiyawoman was a dub-only addition.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about how the CONCEPT of Saiyawoman wasn't a Toriyama property, not the name itself.
Yeah, exactly. I guess to be more clear, does this mean that the CONCEPT of Great Saiyawoman wasn't invented by Toriyama?

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:20 pm

Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:24 pm

Pretty much nothing that we already didn't know.

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Post by kinisking » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:35 pm

I loved their comment on Broly. You can tell they don't care for the character.
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Post by DBS916 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:01 pm

kinisking wrote:I loved their comment on Broly. You can tell they don't care for the character.
Broly is okay. My only problem is he's not very useful as an opponent and that the three movies he appeared in are just too similar plot wise for my taste.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:37 pm

kinisking wrote:You can tell they don't care for the character.
Character? No such thing is present in the soulless being know as Broly.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:45 pm

kinisking wrote:I loved their comment on Broly. You can tell they don't care for the character.
I'm fine with that. He's a boring character imo. I'd rather not see him come back.
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Post by TheMikado » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:11 pm

kinisking wrote:I loved their comment on Broly. You can tell they don't care for the character.
Reading it, that's not at all what it sounds like at all.

The article goes on and on about how their specific goal is commercializations and merchandising to the point where they have input into the products for commercial purposes. They cite Dragonball fusions as being as being a product that they felt would sell well even though many of the many of the fusions were not present in the original run. Then they go on to state Broly is incredibly popular overseas. If anything it sounds like they are setting up the justification for more Broly content.

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Post by Simere » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:20 pm

TheMikado wrote:
kinisking wrote:I loved their comment on Broly. You can tell they don't care for the character.
Reading it, that's not at all what it sounds like at all.

The article goes on and on about how their specific goal is commercializations and merchandising to the point where they have input into the products for commercial purposes. They cite Dragonball fusions as being as being a product that they felt would sell well even though many of the many of the fusions were not present in the original run. Then they go on to state Broly is incredibly popular overseas. If anything it sounds like they are setting up the justification for more Broly content.
Using him again to make money and liking the character aren't the same things. They pretty much said that the only reason he's popular is because he's powerful and musclebound, and that in Japan they care about more than that.

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Post by Draconic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:30 pm

I really don't get the Broly comment. If Japan wasn't interested in him they wouldn't have focused so much on him in Heroes, which is exclusive to them.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:45 pm

Draconic wrote:I really don't get the Broly comment. If Japan wasn't interested in him they wouldn't have focused so much on him in Heroes, which is exclusive to them.
I most likely means that in DB, western popularity leans more towards Broly-like characteristics than in Japan, not necessarily that Broly isn't popular in Japan.
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