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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:17 pm

89k: 14 April
90k: 15 April to 16 April
91k: 16 April

To hit 92k it'll probably take 2-3 days or more.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Thanos » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:18 pm

Something tells me this was done to gauge interest. Which is good, because it will tell them that there genuinely is a strong interest in new games.
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Post by InfernalVegito » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:35 pm

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mysticboy wrote:None of the RB games had nearly as much advertisement as Burst Limit. Do you really think all those millions of people would all of a sudden pass on the next-gen iteration a series they haven't played in two years if they knew about it?
The first RB game did had TV spots since I remember seeing one on Adult Swim in 2009. I don't think advertisement will save the RB games since they still got mixed reviews which lead to poor sales.
I remember both RB games having advertisement on TV here in Germany for quite some time when they were released. It wasn't much but at least something.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:18 pm

I remember the raging blast TV spots had Broly vs Goku in them with Broly threatening to blow up the earth they fight in SSJ2 and LSSJ before going to the 3rd level.

I really wish they'd let US or JP fans vote in on this just one more region could get the 100K by the end of the week.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:25 pm

I remember pamphlets of Dragon Ball Raging Blast (1) being included with the FUNimation Dragon Box Z sets, although I ended up throwing them away because I didn't want advertisement.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:56 pm

I think a raging blast game(or even styled game) would hurt the franchise and the Tenkaichi name wasn't enough to help Ultimate Tenkaichi(Blast) in the US. If they want sucess, they should start from scratch. New name, new idea, new team. To me, that's the best way for things to get better.
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Post by Insertclevername » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:58 pm

Right there with you! Though, another Budokai game would be swell...
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Thanos » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:03 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Right there with you! Though, another Budokai game would be swell...
I could see them going to back to the Budokai name out of desperation, whether a proper title or not. Dimps or not. :P
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:04 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:I think a raging blast game(or even styled game) would hurt the franchise and the Tenkaichi name wasn't enough to help Ultimate Tenkaichi(Blast) in the US. If they want sucess, they should start from scratch. New name, new idea, new team. To me, that's the best way for things to get better.
Ultimate Tenkachi was only hurt because of game play. People saw the videos and knew it wasn't Tenkachi we were getting. I love Budokai 3, IW and Bust Limit but I felt limited with them as a fighting game like Mortal Kombat or SF where as with Tenkachi there was a lot of Freedom like a DBZ fighting game.

Especially fighting in the stage where Goku and Areal fight Blue that was fun.

I believe if BN made Tenkaichi 4 and made the game decent either using Treevax's ideas or going back to Tenkachi 3 and adding stuff the game would be more successful then a new Budokai.

I'm not saying I wouldn't play a new Budokai though as BL and Budokai 3/IW were great.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:16 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:I believe if BN made Tenkaichi 4 and made the game decent either using Treevax's ideas or going back to Tenkachi 3 and adding stuff the game would be more successful then a new Budokai.
To ask the fans to get it to 100k and then if all they'd do was simply Tenkaichi 3 HD-fied with some extra content, that'd be pissing on the fans. And also disrespectful to the franchise because it deserves better games.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Insertclevername » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:33 pm

I just realized, this generation of (North American) fans have pretty much no good console game for their current gen consoles outside of Burst Limit and the Wii port of Meteor. Let's hope this next game rectifies this. *fingers crossed*
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:47 pm

Honestly I just want something we all can enjoy and like. It's been too long that us fans have to worry or share or mixed feelings about their games (except for UT I'm sure we all have the same feelings on that one). I just want this to be the one game that has us like wow I liked it and it was worth my currency.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:52 am

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miguelnuva1 wrote:I believe if BN made Tenkaichi 4 and made the game decent either using Treevax's ideas or going back to Tenkachi 3 and adding stuff the game would be more successful then a new Budokai.
To ask the fans to get it to 100k and then if all they'd do was simply Tenkaichi 3 HD-fied with some extra content, that'd be pissing on the fans. And also disrespectful to the franchise because it deserves better games.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:22 am

Namco Bandai's to blame for degrading their fanbase views on what a quality Dragon Ball game is, and overall the majority prefers quantity than quality.

I keep seeing posts of people in Dragon Ball - Games asking for Raging Blast 3 with every single character, literally all.

I'd be perfectly happy if Burst Limit lasted to Majin Buu or to GT's Story too. Saiyan to Cell only lasted me 60mins in total. In terms of the roster it was fine, the alternative costumes made them look like more characters.
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Post by Xeogran » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:50 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:I'd be perfectly happy if Burst Limit lasted to Majin Buu or to GT's Story too.
Just imagine Gogeta SSJ4 in Burst Limit's quality! Image

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:37 am

How many characters did we have in RB2 was it 69 without transformations? If we were to get RB3 I'd be happy with 70-80 characters, even less if it means the combat would be deeper, but most fans would probably want 100+. Also, if this game has giant characters would you guys like them to be playable like BT3 or just be bosses?

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:13 am

Raging Blast 1: 43
Raging Blast 2: 66

Around these numbers each have without counting the transformations.
Raging Blast 2 - Global Sales [Xbox 360]
2010: 129,403
2011: 302,415
2012: 426,543
2013: 452,344

Raging Blast 2 - Global Sales [PlayStation 3]
2010: 222,208
2011: 404,201
2012: 540,214
2013: 569,897

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=raging+blast+2
Judging by these sales it isn't worthy of risking a third Raging Blast game. With Ultimate Blast they tried something new but ended up being a flop. Even Square Enix isn't happy about the sales of Tomb Raider / Sleeping Dogs / Hitman, and they were beyond RB2's numbers.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Jaruka » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:20 am

Let's see is Spike can put 2+2 together and work out that:

New gameplay = Low sales (Ultimate Tenkaichi)
Improved Gameplay including changeable techniques = Low sales (Raging Blast 1 & 2)
Adding shitloads of characters that are all the same = High sales (Tenakichi 3)

Funny thing is how much T3 was slammed when it was released but is now touted as the 'best game ever'. Spike would have to be stupid to listen to this fanbase as they really just want more characters, that's all it boils down to and that's all you should do (as Spike). Make the gameplay better and put in legitimate improvements to make fights less repetitive (such as changable techs) and people will bitch because no more King Cold or Fasha. Change the gameplay to make something more unique and give the fanbase a fresh experience (including Hero mode) and they will just say how they loved the old style despite constant complaints.

So yeah, after years of bitching it turns out that people just want Raging Blast 3.

Fantastic.

Also, I'm not trying to say Ultimate Tenkaichi was a good game, just that Spike are best off making RB3 or T4 and filling it was characters and ignoring everything else. Remake T3 with even more characters and with RB's engine and there you go, high sales.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:31 am

If it's Spike making this, which it probably will be, I just want a game called BT4. It would look nice next to my BT 1,2 and 3. :P

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:44 am

someone asked treevax if we will be disappointed about this new game just like ultimate tenkaichi?

and he awnserd :

Well, for the moment, all that I know about NB's new game is cool

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