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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu May 22, 2014 10:11 pm

InfernalVegito wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:the 3D games were made for casuals who don't care about complexity
I take this to mean you don't think the Tenkaichi games can be played complexly? If so, then this is, as always, a sweeping generalization that is not true.
No. I was thinking Raging Blast and onward. I already gave BT3 my standard praise.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by SSuperVegito » Thu May 22, 2014 10:17 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
InfernalVegito wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:the 3D games were made for casuals who don't care about complexity
I take this to mean you don't think the Tenkaichi games can be played complexly? If so, then this is, as always, a sweeping generalization that is not true.
No. I was thinking Raging Blast and onward. I already gave BT3 my standard praise.

I agree, although anything from Dimps would be awesome since they always deliver great games whether it's 3D or 2D.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by budokaifanatic007 » Thu May 22, 2014 10:57 pm

Theres a rumor on Facebook saying this game will use a tweaked version of the Brave Soldiers engine and that it goes from the Saiyan saga to Majin Buu saga with no movie characters/saga and a board game style story mode . But if this Rumor is true then the game sounds like shit to be honest.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Thu May 22, 2014 11:01 pm

budokaifanatic007 wrote:a board game style story mode.
I highly doubt this rumor has any merit, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway: Please, no. :thumbdown: It's like Budokai 2 all over again.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by budokaifanatic007 » Thu May 22, 2014 11:03 pm

Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:
budokaifanatic007 wrote:a board game style story mode.
I highly doubt this rumor has any merit, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway: Please, no. :thumbdown: It's like Budokai 2 all over again.
Yea Hopefully its just a Rumor Because that doesn't sound like there making steps forward(story wise)
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by UltWarrior1 » Fri May 23, 2014 12:51 am

budokaifanatic007 wrote:Theres a rumor on Facebook saying this game will use a tweaked version of the Brave Soldiers engine and that it goes from the Saiyan saga to Majin Buu saga with no movie characters/saga and a board game style story mode . But if this Rumor is true then the game sounds like shit to be honest.

That rumor is laughable. Time will tell us how accurate any rumor turns out to be. Maybe next week they'll release the trailer.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri May 23, 2014 12:53 am

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VegettoEX wrote:What actual similarities do you see between the Tekken and Dimps' DBZ games, beyond generic things that could apply to any of a dozen other games like "made with polygons" and "fight against each other"...?
Visually, the Dimps' games are like Tekken with ki blasts & transformations (and a few other things). I believe that this is what he is trying to say.
Last time I checked Tekken doesn't have Ki blasts and the only transforming character I can recall is Kazuya. I feel like half the people in here making these Tekken comments have only played 5 minutes max of a Tekken game and don't really know what they're talking about.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by sintzu » Fri May 23, 2014 1:20 am

budokaifanatic007 wrote:Theres a rumor on Facebook saying this game will use a tweaked version of the Brave Soldiers engine and that it goes from the Saiyan saga to Majin Buu saga with no movie characters/saga and a board game style story mode . But if this Rumor is true then the game sounds like shit to be honest.
I dout the board story is true but in terms of how much the game will cover i can see it being true cause they arn't going to give us evrything in the first game,I just hope it plays good and gives us all the main charecters and forms in the story it will cover
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri May 23, 2014 2:04 am

Freeza Soldier #156 wrote:
budokaifanatic007 wrote:a board game style story mode.
I highly doubt this rumor has any merit, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway: Please, no. :thumbdown: It's like Budokai 2 all over again.
I guess I'm the only one that liked B2 then, it was the closest thing to a DBZ RPG/Fighter ever created, who wants to really play through a story mode as boring as Ultimate Tenkaichi's where they have to spoon feed you everything little thing universally known? B2 at least gave us freedom of a party system, stats and RTS mobility regardless of its flaws. Though BT2 was much better for the concept of an RPG feeling. BOZ didn't make its concept fun at all.

A BT2 styled storymode where your created characters are playable within the main party would be great, far more preferable than that god awful hero mode.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:10 am

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote: People don't make fun of the console games because they are rehashes of the same thing over and over, they mock and bash them because they're objectively crap; these days and have been getting worse and worse since Namco bought the licence.
Bandai always own the license for years. Atari had nothing to do with Budokai and Sparking games other then releasing them in the US. I have seen people on the web and the internet make fun of DBZ games for being the same thing over and over again. I remember my cousin was like "They need to stop making DBZ games. They are nothing new" when Burst Limit was coming out.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by mikezilla2 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:27 am

so whats everyone's guess as to who is working on the game ?

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:37 am

Every big game franchise is the same when you think about it so I don't know why some games are insulted while others are loved. Dimps or Spike will be great for me, I just hope if it's Spike their doing Tenkachi 4 and if it's Dimps their doing Budokai 4 or Burst Limit 2.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by sintzu » Fri May 23, 2014 3:11 am

mikezilla2 wrote:so whats everyone's guess as to who is working on the game ?
Dimps because of capcom not being able to make another street fighter so they will need something to make eventually and they'r good at dbz

Spike cause of the cell pic which looks like something they would make but then again Dimps have made 3D fighters as well
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by sangofe » Fri May 23, 2014 3:32 am

budokaifanatic007 wrote:I don't know why, but my excitement for this game has totally died.
Isn't there at least a reason?

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Sin » Fri May 23, 2014 4:12 am

Forgive me if I come across as uneducated, I'm not well versed with video game production, but if Spike is the developer (which I could believe based on the 'Project' title) couldn't the Spike Chunsoft merger mean the production of a new DBZ game might be different from old ones? I mean for those criticizing Spike, so far all I believe we've seen from Spike Chunsoft in terms of DB is J-Stars Victory VS, which wasn't a bad game by many accounts, what's to say they don't have a new direction when it comes to developing fighting games?

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri May 23, 2014 4:23 am

mikezilla2 wrote:so whats everyone's guess as to who is working on the game ?
Nostal Treevax says Dimps but we don't know if he's really telling the truth or not, we just have to wait for a trailer or more info that actually states Dimps is the developer of this game.

Not going to get hyped for nothing, Treevax. :-/

As much as I'd like Dimps to be the dev of this game I'm not going to fall for it, unless it's real.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by pandamix » Fri May 23, 2014 4:44 am

HE TOUGHT it was Dimps but he said it was a mistake.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri May 23, 2014 4:45 am

Nostal Treevax should be taken with a grain of slat. Not everything he says is correct or will be correct. He's just as good info as Fury Diamond is with the newest Power Rangers info (Fury Diamond has been wrong several times before as well). I'm not holding my breath on Dimps just yet.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by sintzu » Fri May 23, 2014 5:52 am

Sin wrote:what's to say they don't have a new direction when it comes to developing fighting games?
I'm sure they do but will it be good ? I hope they take what they did in j-stars and just make it more dragon ball like and not do something compleatly diffrent like ultimate tenkaichi
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri May 23, 2014 6:01 am

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SingleFringe&Sparks wrote: People don't make fun of the console games because they are rehashes of the same thing over and over, they mock and bash them because they're objectively crap; these days and have been getting worse and worse since Namco bought the licence.
Bandai always own the license for years. Atari had nothing to do with Budokai and Sparking games other then releasing them in the US. I have seen people on the web and the internet make fun of DBZ games for being the same thing over and over again. I remember my cousin was like "They need to stop making DBZ games. They are nothing new" when Burst Limit was coming out.
I wouldn't be so certain of that. For a while now I've gotten the suspicion that Atari assisted in the funding of the games produced in their era, whether they were Japanese developed or otherwise. Something convinced Bandai to make a new console game after five years, but it certainly wasn't the sales of Legendary Super Warriors. There's also the fact that products like the first Budokai and Shin Budokai seemed tailored around where the US release of DBZ was situated. Movie 12 was eleven years old by the time Shin Budokai launched in Japan, but weeks away from launch in the US when that game came out. It'd also be neglectful of me to not mention that prior to Budokai Tenkaichi, every PS2 game launched in North America before Japan. That relationship seemed more serious than solely one based on localizations.
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