Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

[JulieYBM]

Toei Animation has done Kyousougiga, Tanken Driland, Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo R (a sequel to an older series), Robot Girls Z (with a sequel coming out in 2015), Disk Wars: Avengers, Majin Bone, Abarenbou Rikishi!! Matsutarou, World Trigger, Buddha, Buddha 2, and Rakuen Tsuihou in the past three or four years. Those are all out of their usual evergreen franchises. In 2014 they produced more series than anyone else in 2014, too, so it's hard to say they are "playing it safe" in a year when the most animated series ever to air in a single year, 173 series, have aired.

[Kid Buu]

I wonder why Toei is rebooting all their series (DBZ, SM, Digimon) anyway. Out of ideas?

They're not rebooting DBZ because they've not revealed a new series, just a movie every few years.

Uh, Dragon Ball Kai?

[voltlunok]

Toei Animation has done Kyousougiga, Tanken Driland, Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo R (a sequel to an older series), Robot Girls Z (with a sequel coming out in 2015), Disk Wars: Avengers, Majin Bone, Abarenbou Rikishi!! Matsutarou, World Trigger, Buddha, Buddha 2, and Rakuen Tsuihou in the past three or four years. Those are all out of their usual evergreen franchises. In 2014 they produced more series than anyone else in 2014, too, so it's hard to say they are "playing it safe" in a year when the most animated series ever to air in a single year, 173 series, have aired.

Well then...I stand thoroughly corrected! I apologize for my lack of knowledge, haven't been paying Toei full attention these years outside of Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, and Precure.

[coola]

Kid Buu: If you re talking about that post on SM forum, i wrote it i heard about it from friend, who gave me a link to that Portugal forum. I hope it is true, but, manga has 60 acts, not 52, like they wrote on forum. I honestly kinda regret that Sunrise cannot get rights to SM, but, it could be worse

[JulieYBM]

Kid Buu: If you re talking about that post on SM forum, i wrote it i heard about it from friend, who gave me a link to that Portugal forum. I hope it is true, but, manga has 60 acts, not 52, like they wrote on forum. I honestly kinda regret that Sunrise cannot get rights to SM, but, it could be worse

Sunrise has more than enough titles in production as it is, so don't expect switching studios to magically solve everything. It's the same problem with Dragon Ball, you don't need a better studio, you just need more patience and to know the right freelancers.

[Kid Buu]

They could adapt up to the Dream/SuperS arc and just do an alternate ending instead of Stars, I suppose.

Dream was an incredible arc in the manga, and I kinda wish the manga ended there. Not a big fan of Stars.

One day I'd like to see Sailor Moon S and Sailor Moon SuperS get a proper adaptation, but give how Crystal has turned out, maybe its best we don't.

[Super Sonic]

I would've been ok if it ended with R's second-to-last episode. When that originally aired on CN in 98 I thought that was the end of it until a lady told me some months later about Uranus and Neptune, as well as getting some things about them mixed up with the Starlights. Haven't seen Crystal, yet, but heard mixed things. Do want to see with Viz's new cast.

[Kid Buu]

Yeah, Classic and R are my favorite. Personally I wish Junichi Sato never stepped down as the lead director. I've enjoyed everything he has done, and his work on Sailor Moon is among them.

S had its moments but a lot of episodes with OOC behavior. Apparently that is when the anime caught up to the manga too. Must explain there didn't seem to be much plot direction early on in the season.

I wonder when the DB manga caught up to the anime?

[coola]

Just watched it, and I'm onestly very dissapointed, Classic finale blow this average episode away, complete lack of emotions. Girls honestly act like some sort of fanatics: "Usagi is great, she is our only hope, let put our lives away to save her, despite her commiting suicide earlier, and we don't know if she will do it again" In Classic, Ami slapped Usagi to get her back to senses, here, everyone are just mindless blobs, there are no different characters.

[rereboy]

I wonder why Toei is rebooting all their series (DBZ, SM, Digimon) anyway. Out of ideas?

They're not rebooting DBZ because they've not revealed a new series, just a movie every few years.

Uh, Dragon Ball Kai?

That's just edited DBZ.

[JulieYBM]

That's just edited DBZ.

Yet dozens of people had to create dozens of new things for it. It's a 'rebooting' of the franchise, a half-assed one, but an attempt at changing the image for the new generation nonetheless. Now we have these films, which are doing the same.

[rereboy]

Its no different from a Director's cut editon of a series with special audio and extras that gives work to some people and causes new DVDs/bluarys and merchandise to be made. Doesn't mean its an actual remake or new series.

[JulieYBM]

Its no different from a Director's cut editon of a series with special audio and extras that gives work to some people and causes new DVDs/bluarys and merchandise to be made. Doesn't mean its an actual remake or new series.

Yes it does. It's an entirely different experience. We would call it a mediocre piece of filth, but it deserves the same respect any other piece of art receives.

[rereboy]

You do realize that I was responding to Kid Buu who was basically saying that Kai was a reboot, right...? As its pretty clear, its not a reboot, just like a special director edition cut of Star Wars is not a reboot of Star Wars, or just like a special edition of the DB manga, like the Full Color edition, is not a reboot of the manga.

[Kid Buu]

They're still treated as different shows, even if Kai is just a glorified re-edit.

[JulieYBM]

You do realize that I was responding to Kid Buu who was basically saying that Kai was a reboot, right...? As its pretty clear, its not a reboot, just like a special director edition cut of Star Wars is not a reboot of Star Wars, or just like a special edition of the DB manga, like the Full Color edition, is not a reboot of the manga.

My posts stand, as they were addressing both arguments. Dragon Ball Kai is not Dragon Ball Z, either as a work of art or a commercial product.

[rereboy]

They're still treated as different shows, even if Kai is just a glorified re-edit.

They are treated somewhat as different shows to give off an impression that its something more than a glorified re-edit and sell more. This happens because its in their interest, not because Kai is an actual reboot.

My posts stand, as they were addressing both arguments. Dragon Ball Kai is not Dragon Ball Z, either as a work of art or a commercial product.

Every altered version of a series will be a different commercial/art product because it does contain differences, but that doesn't mean its a reboot of the original.

So, your posts have nothing to do with what I was talking about and that's why I asked you if you realized what my post was about.

Hence my statement about Kai not being a reboot, just edited DBZ, and my examples of Kai being like a special director's ediction cut of Star Wars, or the Full Color version of the DB manga.

[Kid Buu]

Different brands regardless of same content. Kind of like how Halloween III is still considered a sequel to Halloween II, despite having nothing to do with the previous entry from a narrative standpoint.

[rereboy]

Different brands regardless of same content. Kind of like how Halloween III is still considered a sequel to Halloween II, despite having nothing to do with the previous entry from a narrative standpoint.

That example doesn't work. Those are completely different movies. Kai is a version of dbz with edited dbz footage, added effects and new audio.

[Kid Buu]

Kai is a version of dbz with edited dbz footage, added effects and new audio.

Which is enough of a difference to be considered a different show.