Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[TheGmGoken]

Screwattack said this

"DBGT goku base>ssj3 goku at the end of dbz"


Nah. This is fan speculation based on one quote from Goku. At one point, Goku claims that General Rilldo is stronger than Buu, and base kid Goku is able to go toe-to-toe with him. This is where the assumption comes from.


And it's completely ridiculous.


It's absurd to think this random general who answers to a higher up is stronger than Buu in every way. The reason Goku says this is not because of Rilldo's strength and ability, but because of his innate power. Rilldo can control machinery, and use machinery to essentially rebuild and fortify himself. Guess what, his whole planet has machinery, making him essentially invincible ON HIS PLANET. Later, when he's resurrected from hell, Majuub dispatches him pretty without much effort.


We covered why we can't include GT Goku's power in the episode pretty well so I won't get into that, too.

[dbzfan7]

Screwattack said this

"DBGT goku base>ssj3 goku at the end of dbz"


Nah. This is fan speculation based on one quote from Goku. At one point, Goku claims that General Rilldo is stronger than Buu, and base kid Goku is able to go toe-to-toe with him. This is where the assumption comes from.


And it's completely ridiculous.


It's absurd to think this random general who answers to a higher up is stronger than Buu in every way. The reason Goku says this is not because of Rilldo's strength and ability, but because of his innate power. Rilldo can control machinery, and use machinery to essentially rebuild and fortify himself. Guess what, his whole planet has machinery, making him essentially invincible ON HIS PLANET. Later, when he's resurrected from hell, Majuub dispatches him pretty without much effort.


We covered why we can't include GT Goku's power in the episode pretty well so I won't get into that, too.

Is there a source for this? Hell even though I think this reasoning is stupid if it's real, I'd still say going by this logic for Goku still wouldn't have let him win anyways. Well actually according to there charts his speed would be way higher apparently, but he'd fall short everywhere else anyways.

also Kaiserneko as Kaio is in this too. Wonder why he's there? I guess for the same reason Otacon was for Snake maybe...

[TheGmGoken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXH286nM-Fo

Here but it's buried under the comment section.

It's from the video I just posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXH286nM-Fo
Good luck finding it in this sea of comments, though. It's buried in the responses to a comment made by a guy named Dillon Hurst

It's on Google plus http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format ... 10%2Fposts

[dbzfan7]

Well they pretty much said why I think this match is pointless. It's all based on Goku's potential and nothing else (Since he hardly has anything else). So nothing has really changed since no newfound potential I think exists, lest you count that Heroes feat. Otherwise we're in for a fun, but very expected battle.

[TheGmGoken]

Well they pretty much said why I think this match is pointless. It's all based on Goku's potential and nothing else (Since he hardly has anything else). So nothing has really changed since no newfound potential I think exists, lest you count that Heroes feat. Otherwise we're in for a fun, but very expected battle.

Honestly think they're doing it for money reasons. I honestly expect Goku to win this one and then a Tie Breaker ultimate battle 3rd one.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Why are we talking about GT if they're using the BoG/RoF/Super stuff? Or are they just going to mix and mash different continuities together like they so often do?

[dbzfan7]

Not even the blog team could take this seriously.

[pacz360]

Eh i still feel like it's a bad idea to do it now instead of waiting for super to be done.

[SansrivaaL]

Honestly think they're doing it for money reasons. I honestly expect Goku to win this one and then a Tie Breaker ultimate battle 3rd one.

This is what I expect them to do as well to please all their viewers and fans (mainly for more views) since they're using new 52 supes I still see hope in Goku actually winning, but I see them including Goku's dumb move in RF where he drops his guard.
Supes gets his arse kicked, Goku drops his guard then laser beam pierce.

[jcogginsa]

Eh i still feel like it's a bad idea to do it now instead of waiting for super to be done.

Yeah, whenever they do a Goku vs. Superman Death Battle they have terrible timing

[Bullza]

also Kaiserneko as Kaio is in this too. Wonder why he's there?

To point out a planet with a red star? Maybe not but you never know.

[FortuneSSJ]

also Kaiserneko as Kaio is in this too. Wonder why he's there? I guess for the same reason Otacon was for Snake maybe...

To get some money.

[Doctor.]

also Kaiserneko as Kaio is in this too. Wonder why he's there?

To point out a planet with a red star? Maybe not but you never know.

There's no outside assistance in Death Battle.

Though that obviously didn't apply to Boo and Kirby, so who knows?

[dbzfan7]

Kinda odd this is for SGC...where they are having a ton of DBZ guests. TFS and DBZ voice actors. It's like a whole event. What a great present to have Supes whoop Goku's ass again .

[Doctor.]

Kinda odd this is for SGC...where they are having a ton of DBZ guests. TFS and DBZ voice actors. It's like a whole event. What a great present to have Supes whoop Goku's ass again .

I wonder if there will be an uproar in the audience if Goku loses, lol.

[dbzfan7]

Kinda odd this is for SGC...where they are having a ton of DBZ guests. TFS and DBZ voice actors. It's like a whole event. What a great present to have Supes whoop Goku's ass again .

I wonder if there will be an uproar in the audience if Goku loses, lol.

I doubt it. Online they probably will have another one. I still think it's kinda funny that GT Goku bad, but the many different Supes writers with many varying abilities is ok. Then again I guess that's done as they count some movie stuff for Goku. Though that quote rereboy dug up honestly perfectly describes the entire thing.

[Doctor.]

SA must be tired of answering the same complaints about Goku's speed. On that link Goken posted, SA had to respond to the same question a bunch of times and people still didn't get it, lol.

[dbzfan7]

SA must be tired of answering the same complaints about Goku's speed. On that link Goken posted, SA had to respond to the same question a bunch of times and people still didn't get it, lol.

Well they only made a theory....a theory that honestly it seems like they're treating as fact. I don't like fan calcs being used as fact. Hell it's argued that Goku's speed is buffed, but his strength is nerfed from their stats. At least that's what I saw from the SA fans a while back. Goku's speed was overcalculated while his strength was undermined. Though of course it didn't matter since the gaps are just too large.

I'm really hoping they at least have some reasoning as to doing this match outside of views. Cause it more or less is the same thing without any factors changing. They did a better job making Luigi vs Tails where they removed super items and limited them to their own abilities and unique items. And even then the gaps were closer than the last Plumber vs Furry fight. Usually there's at least something that changes the factor or debate, but not necessarily the outcome. Though so far it doesn't seem like everything they said last time might as well just be copy pasted here.

[TheGmGoken]

SA must be tired of answering the same complaints about Goku's speed. On that link Goken posted, SA had to respond to the same question a bunch of times and people still didn't get it, lol.

You say that as if they're fact. They're fans like us who makes videos on why they think someone would win. I can do the same inon Sony Vegas (not fan animation but something like Vegito1089 do).

Their word ain't more valid than The All Purpose Versus Thread

[Doctor.]

Yea, but it's their reasoning in their video. People may feel free to disagree but not understanding things entirely and saying stuff about SA that they did not do (like in that video, where people were saying they just used Goku's speed in the Saiyan arc and added the SS multipliers on top of that) is just wrong. I wasn't saying they were right, or that it's fact, I was saying that the fanbase couldn't even understand their reasoning, which either tells us a lot about the intelligence of our fanbase, or SA's arguments.

Aren't they using New 52 Superman? I think that's a pretty good reason to do this rematch. You nerf the ultra-powerful Superman and use Goku's best transformations to give him a better shot. From what I've read of New 52 Superman (which, admittedly isn't a lot, but I've also seen a lot of debates about his strength), this fight is fair.