Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by ChronoTwigger » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:18 pm

And so, why it's called
DRAGON BALL SUPER : SUPER HERO?
Is Gohan that Super Hero?
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Post by Lukmendes » Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:16 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:39 am You guys honestly think Goku won't show up at the end and defeat the big bad guy? lol
I honestly doubt that's happening, while Goku is obviously the main character, we've had Cell saga with him not being the one who defeats Cell, in Super he wasn't the one who killed Zamasu (Though he did press the button that brought Zeno), and if we count other movies, he didn't kill Bojack (He did save Gohan though), he may not have been there during Broly's second movie (Though at least you can say his design is there so it can count anyways), and he only showed up at the end of Bio Broly as a glorified cameo.

Advertisement so far have been putting focus on Gohan and Piccolo, I doubt they would hide Goku for long if he has a big role considering he's the franchise's face.

It's still possible that's gonna happen, I just doubt it's gonna be the case, time will tell.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by ObnoxiousNamek » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:01 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:57 am
Lol that's not gonna happen. You might not think the current Dragon Ball is a success, but the banks accounts of those working on the franchise say otherwise and that's all they care about.
That’s why the Super era of DB is/was doomed to be a failure creatively due to it being money over artistic
integrity. When funny enough you can have both but alas Toei & Toriyama are to lazy to give a damn about putting out a well written/good product.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by ZeroNeonix » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm

My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.

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Post by Jord » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am

ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.
Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.

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Post by capsulecorp » Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:09 am

Jord wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.
Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by LightBing » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:10 pm

Do we know the runtime?

I hope we get less fighting than we did in Broly.
I hope a decent chunk of Piccolo in his sneaking mission and Pan training.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by ZeroNeonix » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:52 am

LightBing wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:10 pm Do we know the runtime?

I hope we get less fighting than we did in Broly.
I hope a decent chunk of Piccolo in his sneaking mission and Pan training.
I love the Broly movie, but yeah. Once you get to the fighting, it's pretty much just a light show. The action is fun, but I find myself enjoying the slice of life stuff more these days. More plot, a little less screaming. I'm fairly confident from what we've heard so far that we'll get that.

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:22 am

Jord wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.
Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.
I mean, that ending is expected, since the entire movie is pandering to nostalgia down to the character design. Hence why they reverted Gohan back to his Teen Cell saga look.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by fleahop » Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:51 am

SupremeKai25 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:22 am
Jord wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.
Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.
I mean, that ending is expected, since the entire movie is pandering to nostalgia down to the character design. Hence why they reverted Gohan back to his Teen Cell saga look.
Yeah so much nostalgia pandering like the new characters Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 as well as new forms, aging up characters, not involving Goku in the plot, showing a relationship between Pan and Piccolo...so much nostalgia pandering.

The movie is much more interesting in concept than either Broly or RoF. Yeah it includes the Red Ribbon army, but is definitely them, not just a crazy hack that uses their logo sometimes. They haven't been directly mentioned since DB. I think it's neat.

Also also, that's not how Gohan looked at the Cell Games. The outfit is a variation of Piccolo's gi that is different from the one he wore at the Cell Games, the hair is completely different than any version of him we've seen, and he's now wearing glasses at the same time. He looks like he's reconciled his two halves. It's cool.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by SupremeKai25 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:35 pm

fleahop wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:51 am
SupremeKai25 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:22 am
Jord wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am

Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.
I mean, that ending is expected, since the entire movie is pandering to nostalgia down to the character design. Hence why they reverted Gohan back to his Teen Cell saga look.
Yeah so much nostalgia pandering like the new characters Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 as well as new forms, aging up characters, not involving Goku in the plot, showing a relationship between Pan and Piccolo...so much nostalgia pandering.

The movie is much more interesting in concept than either Broly or RoF. Yeah it includes the Red Ribbon army, but is definitely them, not just a crazy hack that uses their logo sometimes. They haven't been directly mentioned since DB. I think it's neat.

Also also, that's not how Gohan looked at the Cell Games. The outfit is a variation of Piccolo's gi that is different from the one he wore at the Cell Games, the hair is completely different than any version of him we've seen, and he's now wearing glasses at the same time. He looks like he's reconciled his two halves. It's cool.
Super (the series) introduced all of this and yet it doesn't stop people from saying it just panders to nostalgia.

Did it introduce new characters, forms, techniques, etc.? Yes. Did it write interesting new character dynamics? Yes (for example, Future Trunks and Present Trunks meeting, or Frieza and Goku working together in the ToP arc). Did it feature side characters prominently? Yes, Future Trunks was the hero of his own arc and Android 17 won the Tournament of Power. The only thing it didn't do was age up the characters and that was always fine, because it takes place as a midquel shortly after the end of the Buu saga.

Also Gohan's outfit looks identical to how it did in the Cell saga, come now :lol:
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Post by capsulecorp » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:03 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:22 am
Jord wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:01 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:02 pm My prediction: Gohan and Piccolo will hold their own against the two Gamma androids. However, once the big super boss comes out, they're outmatched. Somehow, Goku finds out and uses Instant Transmission to get back to Earth. He and Gohan finish the big baddie with a Father-Son Kamehameha. Maybe they'll throw Pan in there too, making it a Father-Son-Granddaughter Kamehameha.
Cop out ending
Nostalgia pandering

Seems about right.
I mean, that ending is expected, since the entire movie is pandering to nostalgia down to the character design. Hence why they reverted Gohan back to his Teen Cell saga look.
Let's not make statements like "the entire movie is xy or z" before we've seen the movie, please.

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Post by The Monkey King » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:24 pm

fleahop wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:51 amThe movie is much more interesting in concept than either Broly or RoF. Yeah it includes the Red Ribbon army, but is definitely them, not just a crazy hack that uses their logo sometimes. They haven't been directly mentioned since DB. I think it's neat.
Yeeeaaah, nah.

Introducing the most famous non canon character into the series proper with Akira Toriyama reimagining him from the ground up is much more interesting than Super Hero, which in concept is just the Android saga again.

Your attempt to distance Dr. Gero from the Red Ribbon Army so Super Hero doesn't look like a rehash, doesn't even make much sense and is a pretty blatant reach.

"The Red Ribbon Army have returned out of nowhere and have created two Androids to defeat the Z-Fighters! Watch as Gohan takes centre stage in the final battle!"

Am I talking about the Android Saga or Super Hero? :roll:

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:12 am

There you go, movie has been postponed.

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Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:17 am

Apparently that recent hack against Toei has impacted the production.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:18 am

Jesus, what exactly did those hackers do that could do so much damage?
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Post by Xeogran » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:35 am

One month before release too.
Does Toei keep no backups of their files anywhere? This is just weird.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 am

The timing of this hack is suspicious. Could it be related to that copyright infringement drama from some weeks ago?!
Imagine if they didn't have backups and would have to start from scratch.
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Post by Xeogran » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:46 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 am Imagine if they didn't have backups and would have to start from scratch.
At this point a few other countries should have the completed movie in their hands already. So if anything went this wrong, Toei should just be able to call them and get it back.

I hope the delay won't be lengthy and only a few weeks at worst.

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Post by sangofe » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:51 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 am The timing of this hack is suspicious. Could it be related to that copyright infringement drama from some weeks ago?!
Imagine if they didn't have backups and would have to start from scratch.
What copyright drama?
Xeogran wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:46 am
FortuneSSJ wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 am Imagine if they didn't have backups and would have to start from scratch.
At this point a few other countries should have the completed movie in their hands already. So if anything went this wrong, Toei should just be able to call them and get it back.

I hope the delay won't be lengthy and only a few weeks at worst.
It sounds too dumb not to have backups. I really hope they have because if not they'll lose a lot of money and time.

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