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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ImmaDeker » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:13 am

"It's kinda like Expendables" is a different argument from "Based on how you criticize Dragonball specifically, this is how you perceive the portrayal of all violence."

Because again, disliking Dragonball's execution is impossible. It's someone else's problem.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:58 am

I know plenty of people who aren't DB fans and think
Evolution is a bad movie. And even ignoring my bias, it still is pretty bad.
But that's your opinion. *shrugs*

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:56 am

Here's another unpopular opinion and my personal pet peeve with anime fans in general. WHY do anime elitists think DBZ has to be the only "childhood" anime or anime in general that has piss-poor writing when there are other anime series that are worse. I understand when you haven't seen a show you loved in forever and tried to watch it again, it won't be good like it used to be. Heck, I'm the same way with this series along with other ones like YYH, but that's with almowt ANY SHOW OR MOVIE that you've watched in your childhood. Still, I to this day, I still enjoy the series every now and then. So yeah, WHY is it only DBZ has to be the butt of the anime joke when it comes to writing?

This is a mostly a moderate opinion, but it mostly comes from super anime heads.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by sintzu » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:10 am

EXBadguy wrote:WHY is it only DBZ has to be the butt of the anime joke when it comes to writing?
It happens with all popular anime,movie,game,ect.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:29 am

ImmaDeker wrote:"It's kinda like Expendables" is a different argument from "Based on how you criticize Dragonball specifically, this is how you perceive the portrayal of all violence."

Because again, disliking Dragonball's execution is impossible. It's someone else's problem.
What I said is simply that you link action to a more serious tone. Maybe that doesn't cause problems for you in other works of fiction due to how specifically everything comes together in them, but it does create problems for you in Dragon Ball. That's all fine and ok, I just simply don't agree with that viewpoint for the reasons I stated.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:32 am

sintzu wrote:
EXBadguy wrote:WHY is it only DBZ has to be the butt of the anime joke when it comes to writing?
It happens with all popular anime,movie,game,ect.
But I've seen some people who even compare this to even worse anime series that are popular, and they say they're better than DBZ. I don't have a problem with their opinion and all, I just felt like they're just saying that out of sheer anger.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:25 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Here's another unpopular opinion and my personal pet peeve with anime fans in general. WHY do anime elitists think DBZ has to be the only "childhood" anime or anime in general that has piss-poor writing when there are other anime series that are worse. I understand when you haven't seen a show you loved in forever and tried to watch it again, it won't be good like it used to be. Heck, I'm the same way with this series along with other ones like YYH, but that's with almowt ANY SHOW OR MOVIE that you've watched in your childhood. Still, I to this day, I still enjoy the series every now and then. So yeah, WHY is it only DBZ has to be the butt of the anime joke when it comes to writing?

This is a mostly a moderate opinion, but it mostly comes from super anime heads.
The more accepted a series is by the mainstream audience, the more elitists bash it.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:56 pm

Kid Buu wrote: The more accepted a series is by the mainstream audience, the more elitists bash it.
Yeah, but there are some elitists who were fans of the show back in the day. They're also controlling the fans' minds by telling them "they've been BRAINWASHED to like DBZ" or the whole series in general. Heck, it happened to "that fool" who liked it for what it is and then when a bunch of elitists said that "the anime has shitty writing", "you're shit for liking this", etc., then he came here and went on and on saying he's an idiot for liking DBZ, repeating the same crap the minority says, and all that other junk.

And no, I'm not becoming like "him" because I know what I enjoy, and I'm proud. It's shit like this gets to me. Telling me "I should watch this or that" "I like something that has shitty writing" . FUCK OFF!
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:14 pm

I really don't get why someone would be in a Dragon Ball forum when they dislike a vast majority of the series.

But hey, don't mind me.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:38 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
Kid Buu wrote: The more accepted a series is by the mainstream audience, the more elitists bash it.
Yeah, but there are some elitists who were fans of the show back in the day. They're also controlling the fans' minds by telling them "they've been BRAINWASHED to like DBZ" or the whole series in general. Heck, it happened to "that fool" who liked it for what it is and then when a bunch of elitists said that "the anime has shitty writing", "you're shit for liking this", etc., then he came here and went on and on saying he's an idiot for liking DBZ, repeating the same crap the minority says, and all that other junk.

And no, I'm not becoming like "him" because I know what I enjoy, and I'm proud. It's shit like this gets to me. Telling me "I should watch this or that" "I like something that has shitty writing" . FUCK OFF!
Usually it is just best to go with the complete opposite of what anime "elitists" say. :lol:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ss4songoku » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:26 am

My unpopular DB opinion is the fact I actually like GT. I don't like it as much as DB or DBZ but I find it enjoyable especially the Baby saga. I also like most of the filler in DBZ such as the Other World tounament and even the Garlic Jr. saga.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheZFighter » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:40 am

ss4songoku wrote:My unpopular DB opinion is the fact I actually like GT. I don't like it as much as DB or DBZ but I find it enjoyable especially the Baby saga. I also like most of the filler in DBZ such as the Other World tounament and even the Garlic Jr. saga.
I agree with everything apart from "I actually like GT."

I thought the Garlic Jr. saga was really good. My only regret with it was Tien and Chiaotzu, despite both being on Earth at the time, were completely uninvolved. As a fan of both characters, who I believe were very underused in DBZ, I felt it was a great opportunity to give them both good screentime and maybe even a little battle success, but they missed out. I also kinda wish Yamcha had done more than just turn into some Vampire. Unfortunately all three were just background characters by that point.

I thought the Other World Tournament was great as well. Some of the alien characters were genius, a great mix of the farcical (though in a good way) and the fantastic. We had a Fishman-type thing, a giant Caterpillar, a Giran rip-off, a Piccolo rip-off, Hercules, a short guy with a beard who could split into lots of short guys with beards, a really, really, really, really fast little guy, a Frogman-type thing and a red Cell lookalike. It was like a throwback to the Dragon Ball World Martial Arts Tournaments, thoroughly enjoyable.

Not sure how "unpopular" an opinion this is, as I don't know what the general consensus is, but for me, DB > DBZ.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:05 am

ss4songoku wrote:My unpopular DB opinion is the fact I actually like GT. I don't like it as much as DB or DBZ but I find it enjoyable especially the Baby saga. I also like most of the filler in DBZ such as the Other World tounament and even the Garlic Jr. saga.
Me too. GT is flawed in its execution, but it's a fun show and a welcome addition.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:36 pm

Dragon Ball Evolution would still be a bad movie even if you changed the title and rename all of the character. The movie has a poorly written story, awful acting, characters with zero personality and special effects that make the movie look like it was made in 1997 or 1998. DBE felt like if they had the Disney Channel made their own Dragon Ball movie. I'm surprise that The Asylum never bother try to make their own rip off to cash in on the movie like they always do with their cheap rip offs. I was expecting them to do their own cheap version of Journey to the West to cash in on DBE.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by damn » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:20 pm

Bulma and Vegeta is a terrible couple and never made sense

Krillin and 18 is a terrible couple

Goku and Chi-Chi makes sense(considering Goku's stupid nature)

Krillin is unlikeable after the Freeza saga(risking the world because of a robot(who he can revive with the Dragon Balls)is not something the Krillin I used to like would do)

Vegeta turning good sucks

Cell and Buu Saga suck cuz the show is not about the Dragon Balls anymore(Freeza was the last Dragon Ball villain as far as I'm concerned...he's the last one to go after the Dragon Balls) and they feel like Toei Filler Garbage(just like the Movies or GT)

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:29 pm

damn wrote:Krillin is unlikeable after the Freeza saga(risking the world because of a robot(who he can revive with the Dragon Balls)is not something the Krillin I used to like would do)
Remember Kuririn saying in the Saiyan arc he wanted to get married before he died?

Yeah.

Remember the Kuririn who likes to save everyone he can?

Yeah.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by thomas1up » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:01 pm

The Westwood dub BGM is my favourite replacement score for Dragon Ball Z.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by damn » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 am

Doctor. wrote:
damn wrote:Krillin is unlikeable after the Freeza saga(risking the world because of a robot(who he can revive with the Dragon Balls)is not something the Krillin I used to like would do)
Remember Kuririn saying in the Saiyan arc he wanted to get married before he died?

Yeah.

Remember the Kuririn who likes to save everyone he can?

Yeah.
The Krillin I used to like comes from Dragon Ball not from DBZ(though he was alright till the Cell Saga)
The Krillin I used to like wouldn't turn his back on his friends cuz a Hot Robot kissed him

And the only reason he saved 18 was cuz he was attracted to her
He sure as hell didn't try to save 17 or 16...he's not the beacon of humanity

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:47 am

damn wrote:He sure as hell didn't try to save 17 or 16...he's not the beacon of humanity
He kinda/sorta did though...by the time he was back on the battleground and able to do anything, 17 was already absorbed, but he did want to wish the guy back to life/remove his bomb. Sure, that was also for 18's sake, but Kuririn didn't forget about him. And he directly did save 16 - if it weren't for Kuririn, 16 wouldn't have been at the Cell Games at all, and we all know how important his being there turned out to be.

As for the Kuririn risking the fate of the world because 18 kissed him...okay, that can't be denied, yeah. But is that really any worse than Vegeta or any of the other characters (mainly the Saiyans) risking the world just because they want a good fight/want someone else to take care of it/want to look cool/etc.? At least Kuririn's reason is a very human and understandable one, IMO.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:08 am

damn wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
damn wrote:Krillin is unlikeable after the Freeza saga(risking the world because of a robot(who he can revive with the Dragon Balls)is not something the Krillin I used to like would do)
Remember Kuririn saying in the Saiyan arc he wanted to get married before he died?

Yeah.

Remember the Kuririn who likes to save everyone he can?

Yeah.
The Krillin I used to like comes from Dragon Ball not from DBZ(though he was alright till the Cell Saga)
The Krillin I used to like wouldn't turn his back on his friends cuz a Hot Robot kissed him

And the only reason he saved 18 was cuz he was attracted to her
He sure as hell didn't try to save 17 or 16...he's not the beacon of humanity
Krillin in Dragon Ball went to train with Roshi because he basically wanted to impress girls and he was actually was kind of a bastard to Goku at first and then gradually grew to become his friend. I have no idea what you are talking about.

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