ZombieVito wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:30 pm
Completed Blue can't be stronger or equal to Merged Zamasu if the form doesnt give a boost.
My dude, you are exhaustingly throwing yourself into a trap of semantics at this point. Let me break this down as clearly as I can for you.
Prior to the end of the Future Trunks arc, 100% Blue is not something Goku or Vegeta really had access to beyond stupidly rare instances of transforming and attacking simultaneously. That's because its power drops immediately. Goku himself said he managed to do it only one time, and it was during his fight with Hit in the Universe 6 tournament.
So when Vegeta is able to use it at something
close to 100% capacity via his God-Blue switching, or Goku is able to use it at exactly 100% capacity via the perfected Super Saiyan Blue, it's a "boost" in the sense that they're accessing strength they were essentially incapable of accessing previously aside from a very rarely used attack that only worked one time beforehand.
However, it's not a boost in the sense that they were going beyond its full power. You don't go past 100%. Again, Vegeta already underlined the main difference between Goku's completed Blue and his own God-Blue by explaining that the former allows him to use that strength continuously. Now, there's a big difference between only being able to use it while attacking and being able to use
all of its buffs (including speed and maneuverability) at all times. Another distinction, as I mentioned above, is that God-Blue still leaks the aura a bit during Vegeta's burst attacks, so it's plausibly a little weaker than 100% after the first strike.
So when Fused Zamasu "stomped" Vegeta, he was shown to have an advantage in speed and blitzed him, which is consistent with what we've been discussing here; God-Blue doesn't actually use its speed because Vegeta only utilizes Blue's full power when he attacks. He was also probably only capable of using something
close to 100% (rather than Blue's full power exactly) at this point because the energy drain may still slightly apply to God-Blue. Even if it doesn't, it doesn't change the fact that Fused Zamasu overwhelming Vegeta is mostly predicated on gains outside of strength that God-Blue simply doesn't provide.
Are you following along here? If not, go back over those paragraphs. If so, good. This is the actual chain:
Completed Blue Goku = Fused Zamasu > God-Blue Vegeta > Black > Blue Vegeta
There's no such thing as a "full output" Rosé, at least in Black's case, so I have no idea why you brought that up. Black doesn't know how to absorb his aura or switch between forms instantly like Goku or Vegeta can. Completed Blue can compete with Fused Zamasu because it's far stronger than Black, who was never close to 100% of its power.
I would have thought all of this to be fairly simple, but apparently it does warrant this level of clarification for some people. I'd hope this helps.
Formerly Marlowe89.
