The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[PFM18]

Yeah Frost wins

ToP Freeza>ToP Frost>U6 Frost>RoF Freeza

I still don't think Frost is weaker than Freeza in similar forms. Not until I see FF Freeza fighting a Super Saiyan like Frost did.

Frost fought SSJ Vegeta for like 2 seconds and was dominated otherwise. Vegeta was going to engage in Base until Magetta showed up then he powered up. Freeza was stated to be stronger and so he is stronger

[dragon boss z]

New match:
- Namek Super Saiyan Goku vs. Mecha Freeza

Goku, the fight would just be a little harder. If Frieza truly believed he could win deep down I doubt he would have brought his dad for backup. Frieze new there was still a chance he could lose, and if Frieza would admit that there is a chance he would lose, I would say there is a high chance of him losing.

New hypothetical question
How strong would Gohan be if he mixed God ki with his Ultimate form?

Stronger than Goku

Yeah Frost wins

ToP Freeza>ToP Frost>U6 Frost>RoF Freeza

I still don't think Frost is weaker than Freeza in similar forms. Not until I see FF Freeza fighting a Super Saiyan like Frost did.

Frost fought SSJ Vegeta for like 2 seconds and was dominated otherwise. Vegeta was going to engage in Base until Magetta showed up then he powered up. Freeza was stated to be stronger and so he is stronger

Not to mention Frieza fought Dyspo on a pretty even level and even SSG Goku had trouble with Dyspo. Frost pretty much flat out admitted his inferiority even before seeing golden Frieza.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

New hypothetical question
How strong would Gohan be if he mixed God ki with his Ultimate form?

Stronger than Goku

Which Goku? God Goku, Blue Goku, Omen Goku, or MUI Goku?

[dragon boss z]

New hypothetical question
How strong would Gohan be if he mixed God ki with his Ultimate form?

Stronger than Goku

Which Goku? God Goku, Blue Goku, Omen Goku, or MUI Goku?

Blue Goku for sure, possibly omen Goku, I doubt MUI Goku.

[Noah]

New match: (No SSJ allowed)

- Namek Goku vs. Future Trunks

[RecolorSaiyan]

By god ki do you mean if he did the ssg ritual and retained the power?

If so anime gohan would rival UI Omen goku imo

Manga gohan would probably be Beerus/MUI level

[dragon boss z]

New match: (No SSJ allowed)

- Namek Goku vs. Future Trunks

Goku stomps with kaioken.

[Bullza]

Majin Vegeta vs. Good Buu

That being the weaker Good Buu who lost the majority of his power after the split.

Frost in his Third Form vs. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks

[PFM18]

Majin Vegeta vs. Good Buu

That being the weaker Good Buu who lost the majority of his power after the split.

Frost in his Third Form vs. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks

It depends if Vegeta kept his boost he had as Majin or not, there's speculation one way or the other. Because Good Buu performed better against Kid Buu, so if this was Vegeta would was equivalent to Majin Vegeta, that would make Good Buu stronger. Otherwise, I believe Majin Vegeta would have a chance or even win.


Frost one shots no problems

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Ya, there is the question of how much power Frieza was using, and also the question if Goku really needed to go ssj. Either way I think they were probably at least somewhat close to each other.
And I'm not sure what this mean exactly, but in the manga he told Frieza he seems to be his senior by "quite a good deal".
[spoiler][/spoiler]
So I think that either means he is saying Frieza is a lot stronger or a lot older than him. Not sure which way it's supposed to be taken.

I think it means older. I don't think i've seen anyone using the world "senior" to describe someone stronger than them.

New match:

- Namek Super Saiyan Goku vs. Mecha Freeza

Freeza wins. Last time they fought it was a roughly even fight even though Goku had the upperhand in power, now that he's even stronger he can probably win.

New match: (No SSJ allowed)

- Namek Goku vs. Future Trunks

Trunks is far stronger, Goku stomps with Kaioken.

Majin Vegeta vs. Good Buu

That being the weaker Good Buu who lost the majority of his power after the split.

Frost in his Third Form vs. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks

Good Boo stomps. I think Boo was too far above SSJ2 Tier to get weaker than Vegeta post split.

Probably Frost.

[ZombieVito]

Frost fought SSJ Vegeta for like 2 seconds and was dominated otherwise. Vegeta was going to engage in Base until Magetta showed up then he powered up. Freeza was stated to be stronger and so he is stronger

Frost held is own good enough. Vegeta never really dominated him.

And Champa never said Freeza was stronger, only that Frost stood no chance, which is true since Freeza has his Golden form.

[PFM18]

Frost fought SSJ Vegeta for like 2 seconds and was dominated otherwise. Vegeta was going to engage in Base until Magetta showed up then he powered up. Freeza was stated to be stronger and so he is stronger

Frost held is own good enough. Vegeta never really dominated him.

And Champa never said Freeza was stronger, only that Frost stood no chance, which is true since Freeza has his Golden form.

And how could Champa possibly know about Freeza's Golden form?

[Bullza]

Champa wouldn't know about his Golden Form. He didn't even know about Goku having a Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan Blue form.

Beerus didn't know Goku had a Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 form either.


Anyway

Majin Buu vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (Post Rosat)

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Majin Buu vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (Post Rosat)

Base Gotenks atomises him. Goku already said Gotenks would defeat Boo without Rosat, and after training in Rosat Gotenks surpassed his old SSJ form in base.

[Noah]

New match:

- First Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chaozu and Yajirobe (Android arc)

[Bullza]

Base Gotenks atomises him. Goku already said Gotenks would defeat Boo without Rosat, and after training in Rosat Gotenks surpassed his old SSJ form in base.

That seems unlikely. Wouldn't that also mean that Base Goten and Trunks would have surpassed their previous Super Saiyan selves as well? And we know that isn't the case.

[Ssjcell]

Base Gotenks atomises him. Goku already said Gotenks would defeat Boo without Rosat, and after training in Rosat Gotenks surpassed his old SSJ form in base.

That seems unlikely. Wouldn't that also mean that Base Goten and Trunks would have surpassed their previous Super Saiyan selves as well? And we know that isn't the case.

That might be the case I know it's not a popular opinion but I could see it...

[Ssjcell]

Master roshi vs majin spopovich

[dragon boss z]

Majin Vegeta vs. Good Buu
That being the weaker Good Buu who lost the majority of his power after the split.
Frost in his Third Form vs. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks

-Buu due to regen, absorption, candy beam, and other powers.
-Gotenks imo. Piccolo gave Frost a run for his money while in his final form. 3rd form Frost may still be above Piccolo, but I can't really see it being by so much he can beat ssj3 Gotenks.

Majin Buu vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (Post Rosat)

Gotenks is above Fat Buu when he is suppressed with his good side, but when enraged and releasing his full power I think Buu might be stronger.

Base Gotenks atomises him. Goku already said Gotenks would defeat Boo without Rosat, and after training in Rosat Gotenks surpassed his old SSJ form in base.

Goku never said that it was definitely going to be the case, and when Gotenks finally went ssj Piccolo said he wasn't sure if he would win. Post ROSAT ssj Gotenks should be enough though.

New match:
- First Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chaozu and Yajirobe (Android arc)

Frieza can just supernova them all.

Master roshi vs majin spopovich

Roshi stomps hard, even in his very first appearance.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

New match:

- First Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chaozu and Yajirobe (Android arc)

#20 considered Yamcha good energy, so anyone of the main trio (Ten, Kuririn or Yamcha) can make short work of Freeza, unless he blows up the planet or something.

That seems unlikely. Wouldn't that also mean that Base Goten and Trunks would have surpassed their previous Super Saiyan selves as well? And we know that isn't the case.

No, because fusion is never implied to be a set multiplier.

Master roshi vs majin spopovich

Spopovich stomps. Babidi actually thought he could do a good job collecting energy at the Budokai, despite his latest info on Earth being from a time when being like Piccolo Daimao, Master Mutaito and Prime Roshi walked around

Plus Spopovich shows a flight aura, and fighters weren't show to have flight auras until the Saiyan Arc.

Though if we're counting Super in here Roshi finger clicks. Not only he seems to be on pair with Tenshinhan vs Frost, he also has enough skill to beat Kahseral (And arguably Frost) and dodge Jiren's blows for a while.

Goku never said that it was definitely going to be the case, and when Gotenks finally went ssj Piccolo said he wasn't sure if he would win. Post ROSAT ssj Gotenks should be enough though.

Goku literally said they couldn't lose if they perfect fusion, and Piccolo gave the ok to Gotenks' Ki when SSJ Gotenks was born, only asking if his speed was as good.