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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:40 am

I haven't been in many situations where I've needed to refer to a member of Team Champa that isn't Mystery Saiyan or 'Majin Pooh/Winnie the Buu' because the other three don't interest me atm.

'The guy on the left hand side of the poster under Monaca' works, but it's so long winded. ^^;

I think I'll just wait until VJump is out next week.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:46 am

I'm also interested for the new Saiyan.Is Planet Vegeta in U6 destroyed ? Who's his parents ? Will be have another transformation that we didnt see ? Is he a Saiyan royalty like Vegeta ? Is he a boy or a girl ? Damn so many questions :crazy:

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:03 am

The answers to Mystery Saiyan will determine how interested I remain about him. I don't want to get invested until I know more about the character.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:14 am

I am pretty much convinced at this point that champa is not a villain. I am thinking that maybe some of the guys in champa's team dont have the right intention.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:19 am

Sodhi wrote:I am pretty much convinced at this point that champa is not a villain. I am thinking that maybe some of the guys in champa's team dont have the right intention.
Champa has been looking for the Super Dragon Balls for a LONG time, I get the feeling he has a wish in mind that might be no bueno.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by saunasolmu » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:33 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
Sodhi wrote:I am pretty much convinced at this point that champa is not a villain. I am thinking that maybe some of the guys in champa's team dont have the right intention.
Champa has been looking for the Super Dragon Balls for a LONG time, I get the feeling he has a wish in mind that might be no bueno.
His wish is to switch the Earths.

Though for what reason he started searching Super Dragon Balls is unclear.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:38 am

As was mentioned, he started gathering the Super Dragon Balls before he even knew about Earth, so he had something in mind that he was going to wish for before then. Whether his wish has truly changed to the one to switch Earths or not, we don't know yet. (Maybe all he wanted was someplace in his universe with better food, and this will accomplish that.) But all we can say for the time being is that that's what he's telling everyone his wish will be.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:00 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:As was mentioned, he started gathering the Super Dragon Balls before he even knew about Earth, so he had something in mind that he was going to wish for before then. Whether his wish has truly changed to the one to switch Earths or not, we don't know yet. (Maybe all he wanted was someplace in his universe with better food, and this will accomplish that.) But all we can say for the time being is that that's what he's telling everyone his wish will be.
We also don't know for sure how many wishes the Super Dragon can grant at once. Maybe it's two or three and Champa knows that and he hadn't decided on the last wish so Earth is just icing on the cake. Nobody knows, and that excites me!

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:57 pm

As long as Champa's goal is not a stupid wish like good food, its okay.
Since he was so proud of Universe 6 food, I'm hoping its indeed something evil.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:16 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:As long as Champa's goal is not a stupid wish like good food, its okay.
Since he was so proud of Universe 6 food, I'm hoping its indeed something evil.
I bet their food would taste the same as Universe 7. Hence, the sushi, ramen, pork, juice, etc....

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:06 pm

SilverPlaqueVII wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:As long as Champa's goal is not a stupid wish like good food, its okay.
Since he was so proud of Universe 6 food, I'm hoping its indeed something evil.
I bet their food would taste the same as Universe 7. Hence, the sushi, ramen, pork, juice, etc....
Champa didn't know about ramen. That's what gave the victory to Beerus in their food contest and kick off U6 arc plot.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DainIronfoot » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:42 pm

Whatever the case is I believe our team is either going to lose or something disrupts the tournament. It's the only thing I can think of that would connect to our fighters having to go to Uni 6. As for who I like most (and interested in) on uni 6 team would be Frost. I just thought the look he gave Vegeta when he said "Frieza!?" was cool.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Kakarotto92 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:18 pm

Sodhi wrote:I am pretty much convinced at this point that champa is not a villain. I am thinking that maybe some of the guys in champa's team dont have the right intention.
Well V-Jump did call this arc "Champa arc" and not "Universer 6 arc" like most fans are calling it or "Inter-universal tounament arc". I doubt they would have an arc named after a character only for him to be pushed to the sidelines after the beginning. There's definitely more to Champa than what we've been told so far (if not, then I'll be disappointed). I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the one who raids the Earth while everyone is away and eventually fights Gohan.

My theory is that Champa and/or Vados realized that the last Super DB they were searching for was inside Earth's crust when Freeza destroyed it, and since they are deities, they managed to retain their memories of that event after Whis time rewind technique. After that they came up with a win-win plan in which they make an (apparently) silly bet with Beerus by helding a tounament that will concentrate the Earth's strongest warriors in one planet far away enough from Earth. This way, in case the tounament reaches a point in which Beerus' team is likely to win, Champa will secretely raid the Earth before the tounament is over as a contingency plan.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by shadd21 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:21 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:As long as Champa's goal is not a stupid wish like good food, its okay.
Since he was so proud of Universe 6 food, I'm hoping its indeed something evil.
Though i agree that it would be really lame if Champa's true goal wasn't something devious or evil but instead was something wacky, i can totally see it happening as Toriyama himself did say that the story for the uni 6 arc would be "simple and silly". :sick:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:27 pm

"Simple and silly"? http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/04/dr ... own-1-day/ said "Thick Plot".
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:38 pm

I really think the tournament is just a set up, a small part of a big arc. The Universe 6 fighters might be introduced, so that they can help out in a possible dragon ball search in their Universe. While justifying Goku, Vegeta, possibility Piccolo training for some power-ups. Gohan being the only character not at the tournament is highly suspicions. He will either be a defender or kidnapped.

I don't Champa/Vados being evil. It's likely he wanted the Super Dragon Balls for something petty.

My prediction is everybody becoming trapped temporally at the tournament arena. Gohan either saves them or gets himself kidnapped while the main group figures out an escape plan. After that the possibilities are endless.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by shadd21 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:21 pm

Chuquita wrote:"Simple and silly"? http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/04/dr ... own-1-day/ said "Thick Plot".
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:32 pm

Kakarotto92 wrote: My theory is that Champa and/or Vados realized that the last Super DB they were searching for was inside Earth's crust when Freeza destroyed it, and since they are deities, they managed to retain their memories of that event after Whis time rewind technique. After that they came up with a win-win plan in which they make an (apparently) silly bet with Beerus by helding a tounament that will concentrate the Earth's strongest warriors in one planet far away enough from Earth. This way, in case the tounament reaches a point in which Beerus' team is likely to win, Champa will secretely raid the Earth before the tounament is over as a contingency plan.
This is a good one. I like it.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:47 pm

shadd21 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:"Simple and silly"? http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/04/dr ... own-1-day/ said "Thick Plot".
My mistake.
Toriyama himself did say that he thought "things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting". Though he also said that our gang will depart from our universe, which isn't in part of the content we have thus far.
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Kakarotto92 wrote: My theory is that Champa and/or Vados realized that the last Super DB they were searching for was inside Earth's crust when Freeza destroyed it, and since they are deities, they managed to retain their memories of that event after Whis time rewind technique. After that they came up with a win-win plan in which they make an (apparently) silly bet with Beerus by holding a tournament that will concentrate the Earth's strongest warriors in one planet far away enough from Earth. This way, in case the tournament reaches a point in which Beerus' team is likely to win, Champa will secretly raid the Earth before the tournament is over as a contingency plan.
This is a good one. I like it.
Toriyama, regardless of what some fans will try to convince you based solely on his art, tends to keep the sizes/distances of real world things the same (like the distance to the moon)because it's just easier that way. So it really only works if Toriyama wasn't the one who came up with the size of the Super Dragon Balls or if DB Earth is a LOT bigger than our own. As the Super Dragon balls are 3 times bigger than Earth...
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:00 pm

Kakarotto92 wrote:
Sodhi wrote:I am pretty much convinced at this point that champa is not a villain. I am thinking that maybe some of the guys in champa's team dont have the right intention.
Well V-Jump did call this arc "Champa arc" and not "Universer 6 arc" like most fans are calling it or "Inter-universal tounament arc". I doubt they would have an arc named after a character only for him to be pushed to the sidelines after the beginning. There's definitely more to Champa than what we've been told so far (if not, then I'll be disappointed). I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the one who raids the Earth while everyone is away and eventually fights Gohan.

My theory is that Champa and/or Vados realized that the last Super DB they were searching for was inside Earth's crust when Freeza destroyed it, and since they are deities, they managed to retain their memories of that event after Whis time rewind technique. After that they came up with a win-win plan in which they make an (apparently) silly bet with Beerus by helding a tounament that will concentrate the Earth's strongest warriors in one planet far away enough from Earth. This way, in case the tounament reaches a point in which Beerus' team is likely to win, Champa will secretely raid the Earth before the tounament is over as a contingency plan.
I like your theory but aren't the Super dragon ball supposed to be planet sized? If yes then why has no one not found it yet on earth. Plus Bulma had to go to the center of the universe to get something. I am convinced that champa is not villian because how he just simply told to beerus that the prize is super dragon balls, while if he had bad intentions he could have easily kept finding the balls himself since beerus is depicted to be stronger than him. The only way I can see champa being a villain is if he intentionally wanted beerus to find the last ball for him so that he does not have to do nay work then bam he will steal it?

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