Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:49 pm

precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
This is what people said like a year and a half ago.
The fact of the matter is there is still about 3 years in universe until EoZ and they can easily tell plenty more stories in there.
As long as the stories are fun or have cool elements to them people will keep watching.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:57 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
This is what people said like a year and a half ago.
The fact of the matter is there is still about 3 years in universe until EoZ and they can easily tell plenty more stories in there.
As long as the stories are fun or have cool elements to them people will keep watching.
Hell with the producers comment about they're unsure if it'll link to EoZ then if there is no EoZ that solves everything, they can take their time.

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Post by emperior » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:00 pm

precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
The only reason to move to EoZ is the freedom they would have with the stories, and there would be more tension. Goku won’t be replaced though.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:00 pm

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SansrivaaL wrote:
precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
Is this a routine of yours or something? you keep saying this over and over its starting to break the camels back.
I know right. Nobody really cares about Uub, and Pan focus won't sell the series. Many people would leave without seeing Goku and Vegeta and their power ups.
Without Gokû, I would leave, no contest.
Dragon Ball just doesn't have the world building to keep me if Gokû were to be permanently sidelined.

Vegeta...there's like 3 different Vegetas now depending on the writer so that's up in the air.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:04 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Hell with the producers comment about they're unsure if it'll link to EoZ then if there is no EoZ that solves everything, they can take their time.
Comments like that in interviews can be purposefully wrong.

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Post by HeroR » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:08 pm

emperior wrote:
precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
The only reason to move to EoZ is the freedom they would have with the stories, and there would be more tension. Goku won’t be replaced though.
I can’t really agree since to have real tension you have to believe Toriyama has the balls to prema-kill characters and not just side-characters and villains.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by The gr » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Hell with the producers comment about they're unsure if it'll link to EoZ then if there is no EoZ that solves everything, they can take their time.
Comments like that in interviews can be purposefully wrong.
It is likely they will drag the 10 year gap.
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precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
Is this a routine of yours or something? you keep saying this over and over its starting to break the camels back.
It really look like her daily routine,she keep repeating this over and over.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:17 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Hell with the producers comment about they're unsure if it'll link to EoZ then if there is no EoZ that solves everything, they can take their time.
Comments like that in interviews can be purposefully wrong.
Maybe but even if it does link it they don't have to follow EoZ rigidly, in fact most of EoZ can be re-written with spirit of it kept the same, EoZ doesn't have to be 10 years after Buu, it could be re-writen as 20, 30 etc it still limitless what they can do really.

Fans worrying about the "10 year gap" is a bit pointless really it's not like in the show itself the narrator in #1 went "these are events that occurred 10 years before Goku flew away with Uub" all we got was DBS took place sometime after the defeat of Buu. Therefore DBS actually hasn't backed itself into the corner, it's more fans doing than anything.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:27 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Maybe but even if it does link it they don't have to follow EoZ rigidly, in fact most of EoZ can be re-written with spirit of it kept the same, EoZ doesn't have to be 10 years after Buu, it could be re-writen as 20, 30 etc it still limitless what they can do really.

Fans worrying about the "10 year gap" is a bit pointless really it's not like in the show itself the narrator in #1 went "these are events that occurred 10 years before Goku flew away with Uub" all we got was DBS took place sometime after the defeat of Buu. Therefore DBS actually hasn't backed itself into the corner, it's more fans doing than anything.
They already have to rewrite some stuff, like the thing about Goku not seeing Bulma for 5 years. As long as the basic events are still the same and they don't insert any of the new characters into the gang at the tournament then there's not really any issues with them reworking EoZ.

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Post by Kinokima » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:29 pm

This entire tournament is taking place in 48 minutes. It’s not like they can’t make a few years last as long as possible :lol:

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:33 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Maybe but even if it does link it they don't have to follow EoZ rigidly, in fact most of EoZ can be re-written with spirit of it kept the same, EoZ doesn't have to be 10 years after Buu, it could be re-writen as 20, 30 etc it still limitless what they can do really.

Fans worrying about the "10 year gap" is a bit pointless really it's not like in the show itself the narrator in #1 went "these are events that occurred 10 years before Goku flew away with Uub" all we got was DBS took place sometime after the defeat of Buu. Therefore DBS actually hasn't backed itself into the corner, it's more fans doing than anything.
They already have to rewrite some stuff, like the thing about Goku not seeing Bulma for 5 years. As long as the basic events are still the same and they don't insert any of the new characters into the gang at the tournament then there's not really any issues with them reworking EoZ.
Precisely! Even then new characters can be woven in as really EoZ is just about the gang meeting up at the tournament after a long time and Goku leaving to train Uub.

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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:09 pm

Anybody visiting this thread, Super's weekly rating have zero impact on cancellation of the anime. Super is the most profitable anime based franchise in Japan right now. That's correct.

Nobody is ending the most profitable anime franchise. Period
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?

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Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:36 pm

precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
That would kill the franchise. They tried something similar with GT and it was a disaster.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:24 pm

Bullza wrote:
precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
That would kill the franchise. They tried something similar with GT and it was a disaster.
Goku was still the main character of GT. Trunks, Goten, Uub and Pan weren't the reason that show failed.

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Post by Bigivel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:56 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Bullza wrote:
precita wrote:I think they really need to move to EOZ territory if they plan on continuing the series. No way can they stay in the current time.

Trunks and Goten as adults and focusing on Uub and Pan is what the future holds.
That would kill the franchise. They tried something similar with GT and it was a disaster.
Goku was still the main character of GT. Trunks, Goten, Uub and Pan weren't the reason that show failed.
The show didn't failed!

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Post by precita » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:21 pm

There will be a lot of egg on people's face when we eventually move into EOZ and Trunks, Goten, Uub and Pan start to get a lot of spotlight. It may not happen next year, or even the year after...but it will happen eventually.

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Post by FrostByte » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:24 pm

Bigivel wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
Bullza wrote:
That would kill the franchise. They tried something similar with GT and it was a disaster.
Goku was still the main character of GT. Trunks, Goten, Uub and Pan weren't the reason that show failed.
The show didn't failed!
What do you mean "The show didn't fail"? The merchandise sales for GT were low,which led to it being cancelled.Super helped Toei increase it's profilts by almost 19% this year and they expect it to increase in the next year.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:30 pm

Looks like some users here not called Bigivel can't separate fandom reception from commercial reception.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Post by Kinokima » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:09 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Looks like some users here not called Bigivel can't separate fandom reception from commercial reception.
Are you saying GT was somehow a commercial success? Because I don’t see it.

My apologies if I misunderstood!

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Post by Bullza » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:23 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Goku was still the main character of GT. Trunks, Goten, Uub and Pan weren't the reason that show failed.
Not the Goku that people wanted. Pan was the one of the worst things in GT so was one of the main reasons it was terrible.

Aside from that the main cast being Goku, Trunks and Pan meant that other main characters like Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo and Gohan didn't really even appear all that much which was another reason why people didn't like it.

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