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Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:50 pm

@TheLegendaryGohan

Whats your stance on the completely original forms/Characters like Tiencha and the Boo absorbtions from Budokai 2 or Cellin from Budokai 1?

I as much as everyone else hate the SSJ3 spamming thats going on in Heroes, I was ecstatic when Broly and Vegeta got the form in Dragon Battlers and Raging Blast 1 but then Future Trunks got it and I was like "eh pretty cool I guess", then shortly after that GT Trunks got it and I'm like "Da Fuq where's Gogeta and Vegetto?". Then a year or so goes by and Gogeta finally gets the form and I'm like "Bleh about time I guess" and Now Trunks *before he leaves the first time* gets the form and Future Gohan as well and as I stated before it sucks.

If they were gonna spam an SSJ form it should've been the first one, I think people would've preferred to see SSJ Nappa, Raditz, Tullece and even King Vegeta before we got bombarded with 3 different types of Trunks getting SSJ3.

And even before that I would like to see more stuff like Baby-Janemba and Super CellvenTeen but they're dropping the ball because those characters are just lazy reskins. Sadly though at this point I feel like they might as well even the SSJ3 shit out by giving it to GT Goten and finally Vegetto and hopefully then, they can move the fuck on.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:39 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Having GT Trunks got SSj3 makes no sense since he most likely got weaker after the Buu saga.
He probably trained after DBZ, since Goku told him & Goten to train, and they gladly accepted.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheLegendaryGohan » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:14 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Seriously where the hell is SSJ2 Goten and Trunks. SSJ3 should't have been for Trunks. Maybe SSJ2. Future Trunks IMO got SSJ2 after Cell Arc. Through SSJ3 is a little much. I'm a huge fan of what if but DB Heroes is going overboard imo. I do want some what if(s) in BOZ just good one or at least awfully bad ones.
We need some SSJ2s in here. They are seriously getting out of hand you are correct. If you are going to make a what if it should make sense and have a cool story behind them. That would be cool.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:27 pm

TheLegendaryGohan wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Seriously where the hell is SSJ2 Goten and Trunks. SSJ3 should't have been for Trunks. Maybe SSJ2. Future Trunks IMO got SSJ2 after Cell Arc. Through SSJ3 is a little much. I'm a huge fan of what if but DB Heroes is going overboard imo. I do want some what if(s) in BOZ just good one or at least awfully bad ones.
We need some SSJ2s in here. They are seriously getting out of hand you are correct. If you are going to make a what if it should make sense and have a cool story behind them. That would be cool.
I meant to say awfully funny bad ones

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:29 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Having GT Trunks got SSj3 makes no sense since he most likely got weaker after the Buu saga.
He probably trained after DBZ, since Goku told him & Goten to train, and they gladly accepted.
Trunks has become the President of Capsule Corporation in GT, I think he most likely he spend less time training as he got older. The same goes with Goten since he choose to date girls and act like a guy around his age then spend time training.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:38 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Having GT Trunks got SSj3 makes no sense since he most likely got weaker after the Buu saga.
He probably trained after DBZ, since Goku told him & Goten to train, and they gladly accepted.
Trunks has become the President of Capsule Corporation in GT, I think he most likely he spend less time training as he got older. The same goes with Goten since he choose to date girls and act like a guy around his age then spend time training.
Plus SSJ3 itself requires LOTS of training. In fact unlike you're a training freak like Goku and Vegeta then you most likely will NEVER get it.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:47 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Having GT Trunks got SSj3 makes no sense since he most likely got weaker after the Buu saga.
He probably trained after DBZ, since Goku told him & Goten to train, and they gladly accepted.
Trunks has become the President of Capsule Corporation in GT, I think he most likely he spend less time training as he got older. The same goes with Goten since he choose to date girls and act like a guy around his age then spend time training.
Goten and Trunks are stated to be stronger in GT.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:49 pm

Remember guys, what-ifs. :wink: What-if, Trunks, etc trained so much that they achieved Super Saiyan 3. Trunks & Gohan are Saiyan Halflings, and judging by Gotenks, it's easier for the Halflings to achieve SS3. Vegeta is also a training junkie like Goku, and Broli is the Legendary Super Saiyan. So far, all the Super Saiyan 3 we saw are possible.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:52 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Remember guys, what-ifs. :wink: What-if, Trunks, etc trained so much that they achieved Super Saiyan 3. Trunks & Gohan are Saiyan Halflings, and judging by Gotenks, it's easier for the Halflings to achieve SS3. Vegeta is also a training junkie like Goku, and Broli is the Legendary Super Saiyan. So far, all the Super Saiyan 3 we saw are possible.
Goten is also a halfie. Where are his what ifs? He's ignored most of the time. So every what if forgot SSJ2 was real? Gotenks was a fusion therefore should't really count. I understand "What ifs" as I love them. But when everyone is starting to look the same it gets dumb and to repetitive. What's next everyone gets SSJ4?

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Post by TheLegendaryGohan » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:58 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:@TheLegendaryGohan

Whats your stance on the completely original forms/Characters like Tiencha and the Boo absorbtions from Budokai 2 or Cellin from Budokai 1?

I as much as everyone else hate the SSJ3 spamming thats going on in Heroes, I was ecstatic when Broly and Vegeta got the form in Dragon Battlers and Raging Blast 1 but then Future Trunks got it and I was like "eh pretty cool I guess", then shortly after that GT Trunks got it and I'm like "Da Fuq where's Gogeta and Vegetto?". Then a year or so goes by and Gogeta finally gets the form and I'm like "Bleh about time I guess" and Now Trunks *before he leaves the first time* gets the form and Future Gohan as well and as I stated before it sucks.

If they were gonna spam an SSJ form it should've been the first one, I think people would've preferred to see SSJ Nappa, Raditz, Tullece and even King Vegeta before we got bombarded with 3 different types of Trunks getting SSJ3.

And even before that I would like to see more stuff like Baby-Janemba and Super CellvenTeen but they're dropping the ball because those characters are just lazy reskins. Sadly though at this point I feel like they might as well even the SSJ3 shit out by giving it to GT Goten and finally Vegetto and hopefully then, they can move the fuck on.
I think those forms are original like you put it and most are also funny. They also aren't spamming the same form on everybody. I want to keep what uniqueness characters have to themselves so they can stay well, unique. I think more of a variety wouldn't hurt. Baby Janemba, THAT sounds cool. Not "hey look, it's a SSJ3 Turles, never mind the fact that he can't go SSJ or SSJ2!" That's annoying. I also think it would be cool to see some new SSJs with a story that illustrates their rise to power. All in moderation of course (I'm looking at you Dragon Ball Heroes).

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TheGmGoken wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Remember guys, what-ifs. :wink: What-if, Trunks, etc trained so much that they achieved Super Saiyan 3. Trunks & Gohan are Saiyan Halflings, and judging by Gotenks, it's easier for the Halflings to achieve SS3. Vegeta is also a training junkie like Goku, and Broli is the Legendary Super Saiyan. So far, all the Super Saiyan 3 we saw are possible.
Goten is also a halfie. Where are his what ifs? He's ignored most of the time. So every what if forgot SSJ2 was real? Gotenks was a fusion therefore should't really count. I understand "What ifs" as I love them. But when everyone is starting to look the same it gets dumb and to repetitive. What's next everyone gets SSJ4?
Den day moov on 2 da humanz and dey all get da SSJGawd because lawl. What-ifs are out of control. It feels like they are just an excuse to fill up the roster and people will look at the game and be like HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHARACTERS and realize half aren't even real ones.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:12 pm

The only what-ifs that I want now are:

Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto
Super Saiyan 3 Goten (GT)
Super Saiyan Pan (GT)

And if they make Super Saiyan 4 what-ifs, then I want Gohan (GT) & Vegetto. Maybe Gotenks (GT) as well, since he will make his debut in DBH soon.

After those, they can do whatever they want, I don't care.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheLegendaryGohan » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:18 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Goten and Trunks are stated to be stronger in GT.

Link? I just want to see where you got this info, maybe there's more about GT

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:30 pm

I still want to see a Cell and Freeza fusion. I do wish the Buu absorption forms would return. The people he can absorb could be:

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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:49 pm

Maybe Gotenks (GT) as well,
It's most likely just going to be a Gogeta re color for base. Then once he transforms it's Gogeta v2. Unless the hair changes due to Goten's hair.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:51 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Maybe Gotenks (GT) as well,
It's most likely just going to be a Gogeta re color for base. Then once he transforms it's Gogeta v2. Unless the hair changes due to Goten's hair.
I guess you haven't seen what GT Gotenks will look like in DBH, right?

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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:06 pm

Is he wearing a shirt or is his body just dark?
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Post by omegalucas » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:11 pm

So... they screwed over the magical Metamoran clothes and gave him Trunks' gloves, boots and a shirt... weird.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:16 pm

I just posted a theory on this in the DBH thread:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I have a theory on about why Gotenks doesn't have the standard Metamoran clothes: Maybe because Goten & Trunks use Fusion for years, Fusion has become their own technique now, instead of just a technique from the Metamorans. So, now they don't just get Metamoran clothes, but also a mix of Metamoran & their clothes.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by GogetaSSJ2 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:54 pm

Why is everybody still talking about GT?
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