"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ekrolo2]

Damn why do so many people want Gohan to job?

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

[Kagari]

Damn why do so many people want Gohan to job?

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

Curious what you mean by "recent treatment" cause he was treated pretty well in the downtime episodes we just had before the new arc started.

[ekrolo2]

Damn why do so many people want Gohan to job?

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

Curious what you mean by "recent treatment" cause he was treated pretty well in the downtime episodes we just had before the new arc started.

I'm talking about the stuff that actually matters like how he flip flops between wanting to protect his family and not caring at all to being annoyed by everyone deeming him unimportant to not being involved in the story then not caring about it afterward. That's not even going into the other stuff before hand that's about 20 decades long. A couple recent episodes of filler do NOT constitute for a reasonable expectation for him not to get smashed like a punk again, not to me at least.

[dbzfan7]

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

Curious what you mean by "recent treatment" cause he was treated pretty well in the downtime episodes we just had before the new arc started.

I'm talking about the stuff that actually matters like how he flip flops between wanting to protect his family and not caring at all to being annoyed by everyone deeming him unimportant to not being involved in the story then not caring about it afterward. That's not even going into the other stuff before hand that's about 20 decades long. A couple recent episodes of filler do NOT constitute for a reasonable expectation for him not to get smashed like a punk again, not to me at least.

Gohan the Ultimate Troll. Keeps flip flopping on motivations to piss everyone off .

[SansrivaaL]

Well there goes our OP hype Gohan, my boi's gonna job! HARD! time for Boo to own them 3 dogs!

[Kagari]

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

Curious what you mean by "recent treatment" cause he was treated pretty well in the downtime episodes we just had before the new arc started.

I'm talking about the stuff that actually matters like how he flip flops between wanting to protect his family and not caring at all to being annoyed by everyone deeming him unimportant to not being involved in the story then not caring about it afterward. That's not even going into the other stuff before hand that's about 20 decades long. A couple recent episodes of filler do NOT constitute for a reasonable expectation for him not to get smashed like a punk again, not to me at least.

Since when did he flip flop on caring about his family? There hasn't been a direct threat to them since Resurrection F. He most certainly cares enough to take part in the new tournament since they'll be wiped out if they fail.

[ekrolo2]

Since when did he flip flop on caring about his family? There hasn't been a direct threat to them since Resurrection F. He most certainly cares enough to take part in the new tournament since they'll be wiped out if they fail.

At the end of Resurrection F he's training again with Piccolo then when Trunks ask Piccolo what's Gohan doing Piccolo flat out says Gohan is done with fighting, full-stop. Trunks doesn't even bother to tell him "Hey! Some guy who looks like your dad has murdered my mom and is driving me insane! Can you help?" and then when Gohan hears about this his whole reaction is to be mildly irritated then.... nothing until he needs to wave Trunks goodbye.

[TheMathemagician]

Well there goes our OP hype Gohan, my boi's gonna job! HARD! time for Boo to own them 3 dogs!

I legit would love this the most if Boo solo'd the preliminary matches, but I know that ain't likely to happen.

[SansrivaaL]

Well there goes our OP hype Gohan, my boi's gonna job! HARD! time for Boo to own them 3 dogs!

I legit would love this the most if Boo solo'd the preliminary matches, but I know that ain't likely to happen.

I wish Boo would own them as well, we got booblocked in U6, I want full compensation of Boo this arc!

[Kagari]

Since when did he flip flop on caring about his family? There hasn't been a direct threat to them since Resurrection F. He most certainly cares enough to take part in the new tournament since they'll be wiped out if they fail.

At the end of Resurrection F he's training again with Piccolo then when Trunks ask Piccolo what's Gohan doing Piccolo flat out says Gohan is done with fighting, full-stop. Trunks doesn't even bother to tell him "Hey! Some guy who looks like your dad has murdered my mom and is driving me insane! Can you help?" and then when Gohan hears about this his whole reaction is to be mildly irritated then.... nothing until he needs to wave Trunks goodbye.

Piccolo said he had distanced himself from martial arts, not that he was outright done with it. He can still train to keep in shape you know, like he said he wanted to.
The Trunks arc stuff is just bad writing, which I agree with. They should have done a lot more with that if they wanted that final scene with Gohan waving goodbye to hold much weight. Don't get me wrong, I loved that scene but they could have expanded on that relationship a lot yet Toei failed to deliver.

[ekrolo2]

Piccolo said he had distanced himself from martial arts, not that he was outright done with it. He can still train to keep in shape you know, like he said he wanted to.
The Trunks arc stuff is just bad writing, which I agree with. They should have done a lot more with that if they wanted that final scene with Gohan waving goodbye to hold much weight. Don't get me wrong, I loved that scene but they could have expanded on that relationship a lot but Toei failed to deliver.

I doubt Toei is at fault here, if anything, someone at Toei seems to keep adding these flip flopping scenes of Gohan maybe having something to do but they can't amount to anything because Toriyama's scripts pretty much exclude Gohan completely. Seriously, if Toriyama actually wrote any of this stuff in for Gohan, Toyotaro would've had it in the manga. The fact no one even brings Gohan up there is very telling.

[ArchedThunder]

Since when did he flip flop on caring about his family? There hasn't been a direct threat to them since Resurrection F. He most certainly cares enough to take part in the new tournament since they'll be wiped out if they fail.

At the end of Resurrection F he's training again with Piccolo then when Trunks ask Piccolo what's Gohan doing Piccolo flat out says Gohan is done with fighting, full-stop. Trunks doesn't even bother to tell him "Hey! Some guy who looks like your dad has murdered my mom and is driving me insane! Can you help?" and then when Gohan hears about this his whole reaction is to be mildly irritated then.... nothing until he needs to wave Trunks goodbye.

You're remembering pretty badly. Piccolo said he was done being a martial artist, which is true, he just trains so he can keep his family safe. Recently when Krillin said he was going to get strong again he said he told Goku he wasn't going to become a martial artist again, he was just going to get strong for his daughter, same deal.
He was also not "mildly irritated" he was completely shocked to find out about the reason why Trunks had come to the past. He probably didn't go to the future with them after that because he knew he wasn't strong enough and then when Trunks is leaving for the final time we see him rush to say goodbye with Piccolo, sweating and out of breath and seemingly in his ultimate form.

[ekrolo2]

Since when did he flip flop on caring about his family? There hasn't been a direct threat to them since Resurrection F. He most certainly cares enough to take part in the new tournament since they'll be wiped out if they fail.

At the end of Resurrection F he's training again with Piccolo then when Trunks ask Piccolo what's Gohan doing Piccolo flat out says Gohan is done with fighting, full-stop. Trunks doesn't even bother to tell him "Hey! Some guy who looks like your dad has murdered my mom and is driving me insane! Can you help?" and then when Gohan hears about this his whole reaction is to be mildly irritated then.... nothing until he needs to wave Trunks goodbye.

You're remembering pretty badly. Piccolo said he was done being a martial artist, which is true, he just trains so he can keep his family safe. Recently when Krillin said he was going to get strong again he said he told Goku he wasn't going to become a martial artist again, he was just going to get strong for his daughter, same deal.
He was also not "mildly irritated" he was completely shocked to find out about the reason why Trunks had come to the past. He probably didn't go to the future with them after that because he knew he wasn't strong enough and then when Trunks is leaving for the final time we see him rush to say goodbye with Piccolo, sweating and out of breath and seemingly in his ultimate form.

So his way of keeping his family safe against God tier opponents is to train so he can stay Super Boo tier.... right, that seems like the sensible thing to do in a life where every bad guy after the last is worse and far more powerful. Also, his reaction is completely deflated by the fact he doesn't even say anything to anyone, he just internally says "No one told me?!" and then doesn't voice these concerns to anyone else or do anything about it. He doesn't volunteer to help his dad with the Mafuuba or to help Vegeta train so he can get stronger or even help Piccolo demonstrate the Mafuuba, something, anything! He just fucks off back home then doesn't even get called up by anyone to see Trunks off or to talk to him about the fact he kept Gohan out of the loop.

Seriously, what are we even talking about anymore with this character? Does Toriyama have to kick everyone in the dick then tell us "Gohan doesn't fucking matter!" before people get the beginnings of a clue that he IS seen as totally worthless?

[The gr]

Gohan is going to jobbed a by one of the wolf packs and all the salty gohan crying and I'm going drink their tears of saltyness . But seriously I don't know who's to blame Toei for hyping up gohan or toriyama for screwing gohan

[TekTheNinja]

Damn why do so many people want Gohan to job?

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

This doesn't explain why you'd WANT him to job though.

Gohan is going to jobbed a by one of the wolf packs and all the salty gohan crying and I'm going drink their tears of saltyness . But seriously I don't know who's to blame Toei for hyping up gohan or toriyama for screwing gohan

This whole, "I'm happy that other people are displeased" mentality is childish as all hell.

[The gr]

Gohan is going to jobbed a by one of the wolf packs and all the salty gohan crying and I'm going drink their tears of saltyness . But seriously I don't know who's to blame Toei for hyping up gohan or toriyama for screwing gohan

This whole, "I'm happy that other people are displeased" mentality is childish as all hell.

I was being Sarcastic. but I want to know why Toei was hyping up gohan In the u6 and ft arc through he did nothing in those arcs but I'm hoping in this arc he at least defeat an opponent or at least one of the wolf packs

[SansrivaaL]

Damn why do so many people want Gohan to job?

He's literally done nothing but job since getting Ultimate and his recent treatment in Super doesn't inspire any confidence. Hell, I'm amazed anyone can seriously believe he'll do anything worthwhile by this point.

This doesn't explain why you'd WANT him to job though.

Gohan is going to jobbed a by one of the wolf packs and all the salty gohan crying and I'm going drink their tears of saltyness . But seriously I don't know who's to blame Toei for hyping up gohan or toriyama for screwing gohan

This whole, "I'm happy that other people are displeased" mentality is childish as all hell.

Thats more or less the reason why people here wants certain characters to job, because they want to be right and enjoy salt of that said characters fans that jobbed, ekrolo2's reason is probably that as well, dude is tired of hearing Gohan fans hype him.

[ArchedThunder]

I was being Sarcastic. but I want to know why Toei was hyping up gohan In the u6 and ft arc through he did nothing in those arcs but I'm hoping in this arc he at least defeat one of the wolf packs

I imagine because Toei has been wanting to do something with him and now they finally can.

Even if he loses in this fight that doesn't mean he's going to be worthless for the actual tournament, we don't know what kind of prep time they will have.

[Kagari]

Piccolo said he had distanced himself from martial arts, not that he was outright done with it. He can still train to keep in shape you know, like he said he wanted to.
The Trunks arc stuff is just bad writing, which I agree with. They should have done a lot more with that if they wanted that final scene with Gohan waving goodbye to hold much weight. Don't get me wrong, I loved that scene but they could have expanded on that relationship a lot but Toei failed to deliver.

I doubt Toei is at fault here, if anything, someone at Toei seems to keep adding these flip flopping scenes of Gohan maybe having something to do but they can't amount to anything because Toriyama's scripts pretty much exclude Gohan completely. Seriously, if Toriyama actually wrote any of this stuff in for Gohan, Toyotaro would've had it in the manga. The fact no one even brings Gohan up there is very telling.

There's a lot of things at work here on the show these days. Without a Toriyama comment on the new arc we can't say for sure, but Gohan's obviously been brought back as a relevant character to the story now. I wouldn't be surprised if Toei themselves were pushing for it considering his popularity either - similar to how Toriyama brought back Future Trunks due to a suggestion from the editorial staff.

[ekrolo2]

Thats more or so the reason why people here wants certain characters to job, because they want to be right and enjoy salt of that said characters fans that jobbed, ekrolo2's reason is probably that as well, dude is tired of hearing Gohan fans hype him.

Partially yes but I'm also fine with seeing anyone get punked. Hell, Piccolo is my favorite and I find Goku ignoring him for Roshi for the Mafuuba one of the best scenes in Super