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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:42 pm

Kaboom wrote:Well this became an angry and haughty thread pretty quickly.
That's to be expected with Pilaf is running a BP 4 times as big as Goku's :lol: .
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:34 pm

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Zombie wrote:So those idiotic 250K and 75K for Vegeta and Krillin are from V-Jump and not the Daiz after all. More reason to ignore them.
HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! I'm still keeping Krillin at 75,000 though. Gohan jumped to a rather high level prior to his Zenkai so it's only natural that Krillin would thanks to that potential unlock. Plus, I have a hard time believing Krillin surpassed Tenshinhan without that boost.
I have him at 200K at minimum. He's suppose to be of help against Freeza.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:40 pm

Zombie wrote:
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Zombie wrote:So those idiotic 250K and 75K for Vegeta and Krillin are from V-Jump and not the Daiz after all. More reason to ignore them.
HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! I'm still keeping Krillin at 75,000 though. Gohan jumped to a rather high level prior to his Zenkai so it's only natural that Krillin would thanks to that potential unlock. Plus, I have a hard time believing Krillin surpassed Tenshinhan without that boost.
I have him at 200K at minimum. He's suppose to be of help against Freeza.
That seems a little high.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:42 pm

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Oozaru: 10x base
Kaioken: This technique increases the users power level based on the number of times it is stacked. Standard Kaioken will raise the users power level by 1.5x.
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SSJ: 50x base. This form's multiplier becomes very flexible after mastering SSJ.
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SSJG3: 2x SSJ, this form is incredibly slow so it is impractical in battle.
RESSJ: 10x base, this form is achieved after training yourself to maintain the SSJ form as if it were your base form.
LSSJ: 2x SSJ. This forms Ki constantly grows. This however can be a hindrance to the body. If the users body cannot handle the overflow of Ki, he must expel it from his body.
Powered Up: 2-9x base for Saiyans. This state is only attainable after attaining FPSSJ. This state takes a portion of the persons SSJ energy and powers the base form up.
FPSSJ: 5x RESSJ.
SSJ2: 2x SSJ or FPSSJ/100x base.
SSJ3: 4x SSJ2/400x base.
SSJ God: 400,000x base after it's absorbed.
Golden Oozaru: 500x base
SSJ4: 4,000x base
Fusion Dance: Both power levels must be equal. A + B x 5. If the fusees are rivals: A + B x 50
Potara Earring fusion: A x 100. Divide the multiplier by the difference in power levels. If the fusees are rivals: A x 1,000
Zenkai: Zenkai's are special power ups Saiyan's receive after healing from near death injuries. In the Early parts of the series, Zenkai's shot up a persons power by a random number. These increases, however, became infinitesimally small or just straight up disappeared after the Saiyans learned how to turn into Super Saiyans. Broly, for some reason, seems to be the only exception to this rule.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:57 pm

Kanzenshuu wrote:Potara Fusion: X’s battle power x Y’s battle power
Weeeeell, isn't this one a little questionable to be taken as a fact?

Also, what the hell with those new BPs?!
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:19 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
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TheMightyOzaru wrote: HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! I'm still keeping Krillin at 75,000 though. Gohan jumped to a rather high level prior to his Zenkai so it's only natural that Krillin would thanks to that potential unlock. Plus, I have a hard time believing Krillin surpassed Tenshinhan without that boost.
I have him at 200K at minimum. He's suppose to be of help against Freeza.
That seems a little high.
To quote someone from another forum:
Chapter: 282 (DBZ 88), P15.1
Context: talking to Goku
Vegeta: “You seem confident after becoming so overwhelmingly strong, but you absolutely can’t win against Freeza like this! Not unless you were immortal! You don’t understand a thing about how fearsome Freeza is!”

Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P1.1
Goku: “I think that I’ve gotten pretty strong, if I say so myself…But you’re saying that I still absolutely can’t beat Freeza…!?”
Vegeta: “That’s right. If you want to fight him, you’d better prepare yourself. Freeza’s strength is most likely far beyond your imagination…”

If Vegeta felt Kaio-ken Goku's power against Ginyu (180,000), then this would mean Krillin (and Gohan) must be above 180,000 as well, which is clearly far out of Ginyu's reach.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:21 pm

Vegeta was confident in their ability to fight Freeza along side of Vegeta. Krillin and Gohan's power up was also still taking effect, as noted by Vegeta when he claimed their power was increasing.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:57 am

They're not from the Daiz? Knew it. New levels:

Vegeta- 450,000
Gohan- 400,000
Krillin- 300,000
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:12 am

Don't you think the gap from Vegeta and Freeza is a little big? Freeza did have to put effort in that little struggle.

500K seems more fitting.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:29 am

Zombie wrote:Don't you think the gap from Vegeta and Freeza is a little big? Freeza did have to put effort in that little struggle.

500K seems more fitting.
Freeza wasn't at full power yet so 450,000 could work. I think it's 480,000.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:49 am

Zombie wrote:Don't you think the gap from Vegeta and Freeza is a little big? Freeza did have to put effort in that little struggle.

500K seems more fitting.
He did, but when they bounced back Freeza was completely unfazed and calm while Vegeta was huffing and puffing and talking about how he'd need tons of help to win. I think if anything I have it too small.

500 I don't think fits at all for the disparity shown.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:58 am

Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:17 am

Zombie wrote:Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.
He was at full power, but the struggle obviously was not hard for him, given his calm composure and Vegeta's huffing and puffing and panicking.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:55 am

Zombie wrote:Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.
I take it you don't remember the part where Freeza powers up and blows off his armor?
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Post by Malik_DBNA » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:14 am

That list seems pretty legit, even w/o V-Jump numbers. I approve. I wanna use these numbers
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Zombie wrote:Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.
I take it you don't remember the part where Freeza powers up and blows off his armor?
You can't be serious.. Right?
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Zombie wrote:
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Zombie wrote:Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.
I take it you don't remember the part where Freeza powers up and blows off his armor?
You can't be serious.. Right?
Oh I am. He wasn't far off his full power, which is why that power up was nothing special. While it's not directly stated that he got a little stronger, Gohan and Vegeta were a little worried when he did that.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Victorious » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:46 pm

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:22 pm

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. Gohan at 500 Quadrillion!?
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Post by Xyex » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:48 pm

Yeah, wow. Those levels are just... wow. A few don't even make sense (outside of their size) like base Future Trunks being at 3 billion when he returns home after the Cell games, and yet still being required to use Super Saiyan to defeat 17 and 18 who are in the 400 millions....
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