MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/13/26!)

[TheGmGoken]

What is it about Chaozu you do not like? Just curious.

Everything. Let's ignore Toriyama use of him. Characters like him tend to have an unneeded emotional dark back story. That or just boring characters. I hate his ugly design. Just want him dead.

[Kid Buu]

"Shh, don't tell anyone on how Gohan was really conceived"

[DNA]

Amazing work as usual. I really love your videos, you go over lots of things I never really noticed. Thanks to you and others, like Herms for example; I started to realize that I don't think much when I'm enjoying a show or book, and that seems to make me lose track of a lot of small details and sometimes plotholes and inconsistencies.
Good thing I have you guys to point them out! Keep up the good work Mister Gafertape Fusion!

[Gaffer Tape]

Thank you so much, DNA! As DNA suggests, there is indeed a new DBD that uploaded while I was asleep.

DBD: The Piccolo Daimao Arc Part 4!

I let my inner snark take over on this one, and, boy, oh, boy do I have a LOT to talk about on this one.

As always, let me know what you think, and what you think I should not forget to include in the future!

[OmegaRockman]

Thank you so much, DNA! As DNA suggests, there is indeed a new DBD that uploaded while I was asleep.

DBD: The Piccolo Daimao Arc Part 4!

I let my inner snark take over on this one, and, boy, oh, boy do I have a LOT to talk about on this one.

As always, let me know what you think, and what you think I should not forget to include in the future!

As usual, I love it! I'm going to assume that you prefer the anime version of Goku attaining the Super God Water (or will prefer if you haven't seen it yet) since he actually has to earn the right to drink it.

[TheGmGoken]

I agree that the steroid water is a rip. Not everything else though. Though there is a minor connection as you see something similar to this in Heavy Rain. Basically Goku breaths death for Krillin similar to Ethan for his Son. I love the Damaio arc. My favorite was when he took over the world.

[FoolsGil]

Come to think of it, why did Toryama leave Yajirobe with Korin for years at a time?

edit-...I spelled K-O-R-I-N. I get K-A-R-I-N. Wth.

[Kid Buu]

I'm not really sure how you could shoehorn Pilaf back into the story, but it was fun seeing them in BoG and DBGT.

See, I think instead of creating Yajirobe, they could have just given Krillin's Voice Actor to Piano given how minor he is.

I wonder if Yajirobe got any stronger when he took a lick of the Mountain Dew? Speaking of which, I never bothered to remember the name, and referred to them as, well, you saw.

Nothing connects you to Goku's pain, never had a hangover?

I'm not a big fan of power-ups, and the series has a lot of these starting from Daimao. I do agree with the complaint that the decline started here, but sometimes I think it was during the Baba arc.

Great Work!

[Zephyr]

Great episode as usual!

I'm not a big fan of power-ups, and the series has a lot of these starting from Daimao.

Same here, that's partly why I love the Buu arc so much. They introduce three of them, none of them work, and even Goku acknowledges how commonplace they've become by the third one.

[coola]

Great job as always, i really enjoy this series (Annd rest series you do as well):
- Piccolo probably assumed, that he killed last person who would knew Mafuba, with is why he abandon his plan of killing all martial artists. Not sure why he think that.
- Piano had filler moment in anime, when he yelled at cooks, to prepare some disgusting food for Piccolo. Also, i liked how anime shown world in chaos without any rules, with criminals wrecking havoc, and even giving Suno and Eighter a moment of shine.
- In my opinion, that true God Water was the cheapest, and stupidest power up in whole Dragon Ball, but, like you said, Mr. Toriyama was bedsick when he drawn that chapter, so i guess it can be forgiven.

[Kid Buu]

That's odd, part of my original post got cut off, but I wanted to tell Gaffer Tape something.

Outside of the reason you listed, another argument I see on why the power-up wasn't cheap was because 1.) King Piccolo had a cheap power-up too 2.) the fight was still even.

Not that I agree, but those three are the ones I generally see the most.

By the way, happy Yamcha day!

[Fizzer]

With regards to your expanation of the connection between the two waters: that's how I always assumed it was, and it wasn't until now that I even considered that that might not have been how Toriyama intended us to interpret it. "It turns out that he actually had the real stuff all along, but he stopped using it because it's so dangerous". Are you saying you don't think he intended it that way?

[matt0044]

Yeah, I think the Anime did it better where Goku at least needed to fight his way to water rather be handed it. Not much but it was better IMO.

[JulieYBM]

I think you made a great point about the lack of engagement with the Chou-shin-sui. Gokuu's been at death's door the entire arc and never really seems like he cares that much about his own life. It would be interesting if the next Dragon Ball antagonist was all about returning to the original idea between Karin's Chou-sei-sui, hard work. Toriyama has already tried to downplay the Saiyan near-death recovery, so it would be interesting to see an antagonist who believes in this, too.

The ending of this installment is such a pain. We're just about finished with the arc! Argh, the wait!!

[Gaffer Tape]

As usual, I love it! I'm going to assume that you prefer the anime version of Goku attaining the Super God Water (or will prefer if you haven't seen it yet) since he actually has to earn the right to drink it.

I don't want to give anything away yet.

edit-...I spelled K-O-R-I-N. I get K-A-R-I-N. Wth.

Is this your first time encountering the forum's word filter? Well, seeing the name spelled with an O throws my mind into confusion and chaos, so I'm okay with not seeing it in this thread. Seriously, though, I honestly do forget that some certain other company decided to give him a different name, and it takes me a few seconds to realize who someone's talking about.

Nothing connects you to Goku's pain, never had a hangover?

I know you're joking, but, no, I've never had a hangover. But if that's the kind of pain Goku's supposed to be going through, then this is even more ridiculous than I thought.

By the way, happy Yamcha day!

Why is today Yamucha Day?

With regards to your expanation of the connection between the two waters: that's how I always assumed it was, and it wasn't until now that I even considered that that might not have been how Toriyama intended us to interpret it. "It turns out that he actually had the real stuff all along, but he stopped using it because it's so dangerous". Are you saying you don't think he intended it that way?

I certainly never got the impression from reading the manga. Like I said, it's not implausible, but there doesn't seem to be anything that even hints at that interpretation. I honestly never thought about it until I was writing the script and felt I needed to at least *try* to give some potential credit after eviscerating it so thoroughly. And not that it really proves anything, but it seems to me the way the anime staff handled this section suggests it's a connection they never made either.

[Kid Buu]

I know you're joking, but, no, I've never had a hangover. But if that's the kind of pain Goku's supposed to be going through, then this is even more ridiculous than I thought.

Why is today Yamucha Day?

Well, I don't speak on the behalf of Akira Toriyama, but yes....the way I saw Goku react is actually the way I've seen people react to alcohol. Well, more so poisoning at parties than hangovers. It just needs some more vomiting. Then again, doesn't Yajirobe even mention something like "throw it up straight away?"

Today is father's day, and Yamcha is the proud father of both Gohan and Chibiusa. If we ever get around to resuming our discussion on him, I've raised enough subtle hints to prove Yamcha is the father of Gohan. For example, I looked at most of Chichi's interactions in the manga and with the exception of the Son family, Yamcha seems to be the one who she interacts with the most.

[RandomGuy96]

I'd actually been avoiding watching this until you got to the Daimao arc (as that's where I think the series starts to get good)... only to discover you'd already been on that arc for a while. Silly me.

On this episode:

-You like Piano? Does Piano actually say or do anything of note? I know that he exists, but he's just sort of there.

-...why did the color manga make Bora white?

-At least if they submit to Piccolo, he'll kill the whole planet off slowly. That's better than a powerful demon randomly zipping around destroying everything within a week.

-I never noticed how the magical water contradicted Karin's lesson in the RRA arc. I guess I just didn't see much of a difference, given that either way it's a pretty cheap and easy way to become many times stronger.

-It had always freaked me out how cavalier Karin was about over a dozen people dying in his home due to that water. For fun, I like to assume that Karin is a deranged serial killer, and that it really was just poison. Goku just happened to get a near-death healing boost. Your explanation's alright too, though...

Outside of the reason you listed, another argument I see on why the power-up wasn't cheap was because 1.) King Piccolo had a cheap power-up too 2.) the fight was still even.

You think that him wishing his youth back with the Dragon Balls was "cheap"?

[Gaffer Tape]

-You like Piano? Does Piano actually say or do anything of note? I know that he exists, but he's just sort of there.

I have a soft spot for him, but I'm not over the moon about him or anything. To be honest, none of Piccolo's henchmen really do anything for me or stand out in any particular way. So, like I said, I like Piano because he's around the longest, is always at Piccolo's side, is the only one who's not a fighter, and looks cool.

-...why did the color manga make Bora white?

I don't really know much about the full-color manga, so I really have no idea. Didn't even know that...

-At least if they submit to Piccolo, he'll kill the whole planet off slowly. That's better than a powerful demon randomly zipping around destroying everything within a week.

This is true, but I was being somewhat facetious there.

-I never noticed how the magical water contradicted Karin's lesson in the RRA arc. I guess I just didn't see much of a difference, given that either way it's a pretty cheap and easy way to become many times stronger.

Yeah, but, then again, you think the series only started getting good here, while, in this series, I concluded the Red Ribbon Army arc was the best story arc in the entire series. Depending on what angle you want to come at it, you could say that makes it only natural we'd feel differently about those, or that, because we feel differently about those, that's why our opinions of the arc are different.

[Kid Buu]

You think that him wishing his youth back with the Dragon Balls was "cheap"?

That's odd, part of my original post got cut off, but I wanted to tell Gaffer Tape something.

Outside of the reason you listed, another argument I see on why the power-up wasn't cheap was because 1.) King Piccolo had a cheap power-up too 2.) the fight was still even.

Not that I agree, but those three are the ones I generally see the most.

Well, I still think you should watch his reviews of Pilaf-22nd Budokai anyway, his reviews are fun to watch.

[Gaffer Tape]

Thank you. And I agree. You should, RandomGuy96. I certainly hope they're enjoyable. And, if anything, maybe they'll help give you a better appreciation for the earlier bits of the series.