"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:04 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The Majin Piccolo thing was a rumor created by someone on the DB wiki and fans thought it was real. I think fans thought that was true given how Vegeta blew up the Stadium ring. That scene feels like it could be a homage when Piccolo blew up the whole Stadium back in the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and could have people on Earth feel like the Demon King Piccolo has return. Having him turn Majin won't last long given how he has Nail and Kami inside of him allowing him to break out of control.
It was also in the first Super Sonic Warriors game. Complete with the great line "Dabura and Buu! Now I'm your boss!"
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:11 pm

Unlike DBZ Abridged, I highly doubt Nail and Kami stayed within Piccolo as themselves for any real significant period of time, if at all really. Parts of their personalities have definitely been adapted into Piccolo's after the mergers though, and you can see them still in the Buu Arc.

That said, even though he had long since reformed, I wouldn't have had a problem with Babidi finding the smallest sliver of Piccolo Junior's demon side and bringing it back to the surface in a big way. Thanks to the time training Gohan and fusing with the two goodie Namekians, he's been out of touch with that really evil side of him for a while by then. So, I'd prefer if Piccolo didn't break free of it on his own either. I feel like enslaving him should do the same thing to him that the rage boosted Super Saiyan 2 did to Gohan, and he'd need something to shake him out of it. Which would make for an interesting dynamic with Gohan at the ship.
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Post by Saiga » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:40 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:The Majin Piccolo thing was a rumor created by someone on the DB wiki and fans thought it was real. I think fans thought that was true given how Vegeta blew up the Stadium ring. That scene feels like it could be a homage when Piccolo blew up the whole Stadium back in the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and could have people on Earth feel like the Demon King Piccolo has return. Having him turn Majin won't last long given how he has Nail and Kami inside of him allowing him to break out of control.
It was also in the first Super Sonic Warriors game. Complete with the great line "Dabura and Buu! Now I'm your boss!"
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:The Majin Piccolo thing was a rumor created by someone on the DB wiki and fans thought it was real. I think fans thought that was true given how Vegeta blew up the Stadium ring. That scene feels like it could be a homage when Piccolo blew up the whole Stadium back in the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and could have people on Earth feel like the Demon King Piccolo has return. Having him turn Majin won't last long given how he has Nail and Kami inside of him allowing him to break out of control.
It was also in the first Super Sonic Warriors game. Complete with the great line "Dabura and Buu! Now I'm your boss!"
He was also in Supersonic Warriors 2 (Was he in the 1st as well? I don't remember him, but I could be wrong.), and in Shin Budokai 2. Without any design change, of course... :problem:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:46 pm

No, I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the first. He appears in Supersonic Warriors 2 in Gohan's story mode.
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Post by DNA » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:54 pm

The first Supersonic Warriors has Piccolo resurrecting, defeating and absorbing Piccolo Daimao.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:18 am

Ah, my bad then. I meant the second game :lol:

Regardless, my point is that there is precedent in "official" material for a Majin Piccolo.
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Post by DNA » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:58 am

In my personal, expanded universe and timelines canon, the two events would have to be linked. Like people have pointed out, at that point, Piccolo had Nail and Kami in him, making him too good to be affected by Babidi's spell. Now if he was to resurrect what's left of Daimao's soul and absorb him, that would change the tables. He would not only get a power boost, but also be more balanced between good an evil, making him a likely candidate again.
So, to characters, Piccolo (Daimao absorbed) and "Majin" Piccolo right after.

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Post by JeffJarrett » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:05 am

DNA wrote:In my personal, expanded universe and timelines canon, the two events would have to be linked. Like people have pointed out, at that point, Piccolo had Nail and Kami in him, making him too good to be affected by Babidi's spell. Now if he was to resurrect what's left of Daimao's soul and absorb him, that would change the tables. He would not only get a power boost, but also be more balanced between good an evil, making him a likely candidate again.
So, to characters, Piccolo (Daimao absorbed) and "Majin" Piccolo right after.
But Piccolo (Daimao absorbed) isn't in the Shin Bidokai games, yet there is a Majin Piccolo in Shin Budokai - Another Road.

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Post by EveBlaze31 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:04 pm

Okay... gonna change the discussion here a bit. Even this will probably be months before this happens what do you guys think that Dragon Ball Heroes is gonna give the saiyans first, Super Saiyan God, or the Old Kai's Unlock Ability making them Ultimate.
Also since the Saiyan Elite looks like Mirai Trunks as a Super Saiyan is his hairstyle gonna be relatively similar or exactly the same.

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EveBlaze31 wrote:Okay... gonna change the discussion here a bit. Even this will probably be months before this happens what do you guys think that Dragon Ball Heroes is gonna give the saiyans first, Super Saiyan God, or the Old Kai's Unlock Ability making them Ultimate.
Months? It was over a year between the avatars getting SS2 and SS3, because they've only been getting new forms when the missions change names now. If that tradition holds, Heroes will likely run out of material before they would transform again.

Anyway, if they somehow did get a new form, seeing how we're in GT territory, I'm saying they'll get SS4.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:18 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
EveBlaze31 wrote:Okay... gonna change the discussion here a bit. Even this will probably be months before this happens what do you guys think that Dragon Ball Heroes is gonna give the saiyans first, Super Saiyan God, or the Old Kai's Unlock Ability making them Ultimate.
Months? It was over a year between the avatars getting SS2 and SS3, because they've only been getting new forms when the missions change names now. If that tradition holds, Heroes will likely run out of material before they would transform again.

Anyway, if they somehow did get a new form, seeing how we're in GT territory, I'm saying they'll get SS4.
Hopefully they get adult versions before SSJ4.
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KentalSSJ6 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
EveBlaze31 wrote:Okay... gonna change the discussion here a bit. Even this will probably be months before this happens what do you guys think that Dragon Ball Heroes is gonna give the saiyans first, Super Saiyan God, or the Old Kai's Unlock Ability making them Ultimate.
Months? It was over a year between the avatars getting SS2 and SS3, because they've only been getting new forms when the missions change names now. If that tradition holds, Heroes will likely run out of material before they would transform again.

Anyway, if they somehow did get a new form, seeing how we're in GT territory, I'm saying they'll get SS4.
Hopefully they get adult versions before SSJ4.
Maybe SSJ4 makes them an adult and that can be added to the form's power. Once achieved even a child takes an adult body.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:19 pm

I really hope that's not the case.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:48 pm

If they do somehow put Super Sonic Warriors characters then they might Full Power Freeza which was when Freeza became immortal. I remember he became strong enough to defeated Perfect Cell somehow.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:51 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote: Maybe SSJ4 makes them an adult and that can be added to the form's power. Once achieved even a child takes an adult body.
Isn't this exactly what we see in GT through Goku?
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:10 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote: Maybe SSJ4 makes them an adult and that can be added to the form's power. Once achieved even a child takes an adult body.
Isn't this exactly what we see in GT through Goku?
Goku is more that SSJ4 overrides the black star dragon balls power versus SSJ4 in general making any child an adult once they transform.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:40 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Goku is more that SSJ4 overrides the black star dragon balls power versus SSJ4 in general making any child an adult once they transform.
Maybe, but kinda doubtful. Seems more like Super Saiyan 4 just creates an "ideal, average body size" for each character, regardless of their normal form height. Vegeta end up much taller than in his normal form:

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:58 am

SECs revealed, and they are as last reported:
Son Goku: GT -- Super Saiyan 4 (Dimensional Transfer: Black Smoke Dragon)
Majin Buu: Pure -- Kibitoshin Absorbed

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Buu's design is REALLY weird. Just like with Gotenks, they seem to be disregarding "rules".
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:17 am

This is certainly a strange, unexpected turn of events. That being said, I welcome it. It's something somewhat original, but also a logical continuation of the Majin Buu's absorbing of the North and the Dai Kaiou-shin.
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