"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Roronoa-pt » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:50 pm

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He couldve regained it during the 9 month timeskip but could use it temporarily(like how he could use SSJ temporarily back in FnF).

If Lavenda has a transformation then he might not get 1 shotted(although that decreases the change of Gohan winning too). :think:
We see goku saying gohan will regain his fighting sense back in no time, he has great power and goku knows it all too well..
This shows Gohan wasn't supposed to be training in Toriyama's outline, gohan would have his fighting sense intact if he was fighting with piccolo..

Now when we consider what happened in the manga we see there wasn't supposed to be any gohan present after rof arc..
In rof the best he could do is SS and was also out of shape..

This is me putting two and two together but its obvious to me toriyama just now thought of a way to include gohan because of these stakes, hence the line from Goku..

It also seems good that way, gohan continued with his scholar life after the freeza fight and just now came out if retirement to protect his home once again..
It's totally in line with the character toriyama said in an interview he thought gohan was and not to mention it's more satisfying than this mess of a Gohan they created who jumps around with his motivations all the time..
Haven't we been told before not to take these sort of comments seriously?

Gohan training was almost certainly not in his outline for previous arcs.

Gohan is probably doomed. Goku fights Lavenda in the opening and it seems to be during the main tournament so I don't see the point of Gohan beating Lavenda and then having Goku fighting Lavenda and probably beating him as well.
In the opening, Goku is seen fighting Lavenda in the World of Void, not in the place where the exibition match is being attended. Perhaps Goku will get cocky and lose this time but will beat him to a pulp in the real tournament.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:55 pm

I have to wonder...Is this poison Lavenda's doing or is Bergamo cheating? Also is it the poison that make Gohan unable to sense ki or is it a special ability of the Oldest Brother?

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Post by Roronoa-pt » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:56 pm

I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:I have to wonder...Is this poison Lavenda's doing or is Bergamo cheating? Also is it the poison that make Gohan unable to sense ki or is it a special ability of the Oldest Brother?
Perhaps gohan just can't do it anymore or he is hiding his ki..
A poison which makes the opponent blind as well as unable to sense ki is brutal
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:01 pm

Roronoa-pt wrote:I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.
Piccolo is bound to hear becuase of his ears and all fighters from universe 7 will be told probably anyway.
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Haven't we been told before not to take these sort of comments seriously?

Gohan training was almost certainly not in his outline for previous arcs.

Gohan is probably doomed. Goku fights Lavenda in the opening and it seems to be during the main tournament so I don't see the point of Gohan beating Lavenda and then having Goku fighting Lavenda and probably beating him as well.
In the opening, Goku is seen fighting Lavenda in the World of Void, not in the place where the exibition match is being attended. Perhaps Goku will get cocky and lose this time but will beat him to a pulp in the real tournament.
I made a mistake as it is Bergamo vs Goku and not Lavenda, Goku could easily fight Bergamo twice becuase of the opening and I would not be surprised if Goku, Gohan and Buu lose their fights in this exhibition match.

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Roronoa-pt wrote:I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.
I think keeping it a secret was only for the preliminary. I think they will all know before the tournament proper starts.

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Roronoa-pt wrote:I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.
Gohan will most likely tell him because of the bond. Just look at what happened with Hit. I don't think Piccolo's the smartest fighter though . Goku is imo.
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Roronoa-pt wrote:I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.
Gohan will most likely tell him because of the bond. Just look at what happened with Hit. I don't think Piccolo's the smartest fighter though . Goku is imo.
Goku is smarter in battle but Piccolo is smarter in life.
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Roronoa-pt wrote:I wonder if Gohan & Goku will tell Vegeta & Piccolo that the U7 will be destroyed unless they win. I figure Piccolo will find out even if Gohan don't tell him, he's easily the smartest warrior around.
Gohan will most likely tell him because of the bond. Just look at what happened with Hit. I don't think Piccolo's the smartest fighter though . Goku is imo.
Goku is smarter in battle but Piccolo is smarter in life.
Well in life, I'd say Gohan's the smartest considering he's a scholar.
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Post by emperior » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:21 pm

kinisking wrote:
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kinisking wrote: Gohan will most likely tell him because of the bond. Just look at what happened with Hit. I don't think Piccolo's the smartest fighter though . Goku is imo.
Goku is smarter in battle but Piccolo is smarter in life.
Well in life, I'd say Gohan's the smartest considering he's a scholar.
Being a scholar doesn't necessarily mean he's smart. Or maybe Gohan is just smarter in his studies much like Goku is only smart when it comes down to battles and training.
Piccolo has shown times and times he's very smart when it comes down to tactics and dealing with a threat. Vegeta is arguably on par with him.
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Post by The gr » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:08 pm

Wow the gohan fan base is full of crybabies for the preview for ep 80 this video proves it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawPJNyKjU through I don't have fornever but I hate it when he do video like this
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The gr wrote:Wow the gohan fan base is full of crybabies for the preview for ep 80 this video proves it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawPJNyKjU through I don't have fornever but I hate it when he do video like this
I don't get it....what's wrong with the fact Gohan gets his eyes tainted, and apparently somehow can't sense his enemy? I don't see the problem. Sounds legit so far.
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Post by kinisking » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:23 pm

emperior wrote:
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emperior wrote:
Goku is smarter in battle but Piccolo is smarter in life.
Well in life, I'd say Gohan's the smartest considering he's a scholar.
Being a scholar doesn't necessarily mean he's smart. Or maybe Gohan is just smarter in his studies much like Goku is only smart when it comes down to battles and training.
Piccolo has shown times and times he's very smart when it comes down to tactics and dealing with a threat. Vegeta is arguably on par with him.
Gohans smart. He aced his exams and made his own clothing at age 5.

Wait, I thought we weren't talking about battle ?
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Post by The gr » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:40 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
The gr wrote:Wow the gohan fan base is full of crybabies for the preview for ep 80 this video proves it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawPJNyKjU through I don't have fornever but I hate it when he do video like this
I don't get it....what's wrong with the fact Gohan gets his eyes tainted, and apparently somehow can't sense his enemy? I don't see the problem. Sounds legit so far.
Same but man the fandom love complaining about everything,I mean even if gohan loses,he will at least look cool,this is just an exhibition match and the gohan fans need to know the real tournament didn't even started
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The gr wrote:
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The gr wrote:Wow the gohan fan base is full of crybabies for the preview for ep 80 this video proves it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UawPJNyKjU through I don't have fornever but I hate it when he do video like this
I don't get it....what's wrong with the fact Gohan gets his eyes tainted, and apparently somehow can't sense his enemy? I don't see the problem. Sounds legit so far.
Same but man the fandom love complaining about everything,I mean even if gohan loses,he will at least look cool,this is just an exhibition match and the gohan fans need to know the real tournament didn't even started
They'res no guarantee he'll look cool. The only thing we know is that he'll be beaten one sidedly after taking a large break from the series. Before that break, he was ... beaten one sidedly. I understand the alarm.
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Post by Noah » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:58 pm

emperior wrote:Fuck, I'm extremely hyped for Gohan's battle!
Me too and I'm not even a fan, just like the character is finally getting something good after all the shit he's been through for a while.
namekiansaiyan wrote:Will Toriyama make Ultimate Gohan stronger than any Super Saiyan form or will Toriyama do something stupid and make the Ultimate Form as strong as SS Blue Goku and Vegeta?
I can't see him doing that, but I can see Gohan having the same asspulls Future Trunks had in the last arc.
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kinisking wrote:
The gr wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
I don't get it....what's wrong with the fact Gohan gets his eyes tainted, and apparently somehow can't sense his enemy? I don't see the problem. Sounds legit so far.
Same but man the fandom love complaining about everything,I mean even if gohan loses,he will at least look cool,this is just an exhibition match and the gohan fans need to know the real tournament didn't even started
They'res no guarantee he'll look cool. The only thing we know is that he'll be beaten one sidedly after taking a large break from the series. Before that break, he was ... beaten one sidedly. I understand the alarm.
but what if he had a cool fight with lavenda, like he start sensing his movement like the spider sense, and start Landing hits to lavenda,is highly possible that gohan will lose but you don't see me complaining
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Post by kinisking » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:14 pm

The gr wrote:
kinisking wrote:
The gr wrote:Same but man the fandom love complaining about everything,I mean even if gohan loses,he will at least look cool,this is just an exhibition match and the gohan fans need to know the real tournament didn't even started
They'res no guarantee he'll look cool. The only thing we know is that he'll be beaten one sidedly after taking a large break from the series. Before that break, he was ... beaten one sidedly. I understand the alarm.
but what if he had a cool fight with lavenda, like he start sensing his movement like the spider sense, and start Landing hits to lavenda,is highly possible that gohan will lose but you don't see me complaining
.. but we don't know that. What we do know is worrying and I see why some people would complain. If he does amazing stuff but still loses I guarantee much less people will be complaining. Of course , some will complain regardless but this is the same fanbase that has people complaining that Goku and Vegeta havent surpassed Beerus, or that Vegeta hasn't killed a main villian, or Vegeta's treatment in the Champa arc etc.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:25 pm

Gohan can get his ass kicked as many times as possible. Winning is an end, losing can be a beginning. The only thing that truly matters, is how he bounces back from defeat. That's why people complain I think. Unlike Vegeta who a lot of the time tastes defeat, we get to see how he recovers. Gohan just like a stack of pins waits to be knocked over again, which is the difference between them when they lose. Gohan lost as a kid all the time, but we saw him bounce back and recover too.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:27 pm

The gr wrote:
kinisking wrote:
The gr wrote:Same but man the fandom love complaining about everything,I mean even if gohan loses,he will at least look cool,this is just an exhibition match and the gohan fans need to know the real tournament didn't even started
They'res no guarantee he'll look cool. The only thing we know is that he'll be beaten one sidedly after taking a large break from the series. Before that break, he was ... beaten one sidedly. I understand the alarm.
but what if he had a cool fight with lavenda, like he start sensing his movement like the spider sense, and start Landing hits to lavenda,is highly possible that gohan will lose but you don't see me complaining
Gohan should lose the fight as I don't think Gohan is good enough to sense in the same way Goku did with Hit.
kinisking wrote:
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kinisking wrote: Well in life, I'd say Gohan's the smartest considering he's a scholar.
Being a scholar doesn't necessarily mean he's smart. Or maybe Gohan is just smarter in his studies much like Goku is only smart when it comes down to battles and training.
Piccolo has shown times and times he's very smart when it comes down to tactics and dealing with a threat. Vegeta is arguably on par with him.
Gohans smart. He aced his exams and made his own clothing at age 5.

Wait, I thought we weren't talking about battle ?
Bulma or Dr Briefs is probably the smartest outside battle.
Piccolo is the smartest person in battle and many people forget he also has Nail and Kami inside him.
Goku has the best natural instincts in battle.

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