English Dragon Box Release

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:32 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Let me make something clear, they said HARDCORE FANS. That was all the said. Lets face it, if you belong to this site(Dubs or Subs) you are a Hardcore fan. So in other words...the Dragonbox is for you.

If you take it out of context. Within the context of the announcement, I think it's pretty clear what they meant. What with the, "Japanese is the default language," thing being one of their selling points.

Maybe it's FUNi's fault for choosing to word it that way? Is that what this is all about?

B · Post by B » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:43 pm

Yeah, FUNi used an abstract phrase and people are running with it literally, like Usain Bolt with his legs.

These sets are targeted towards fans of the Japanese version. Adam Sheehan dropped the ball at Otakon. Or better yet, dub fans knocked it out of his hand.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:45 pm

I never really understood the argument behind wanting the English dub with the Japanese score on the Dragon Box. I mean, who is it making happy? I'm not going to watch the English version no matter what. I love the Japanese voices and I love the Japanese music. Together.

I am certain that there is a huge fanbase behind the original Japanese version and the Falcouner dub. Who exactly is the Dub w/ Japanese music appealing to? Most of the Japanese version fans don't care about it and most of the FUNi dub fans don't care about it. It makes no-one happy.

I say they just throw the original broadcast dub onto the Dragon Boxes just so the dub fans can get what they want. Hell, I'd probably check it out once in a blue moon just for nostalgia's sake.

This way, everyone gets what they want and everyone is happy. Happy happy happy.

HAPPY.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:48 pm

fps_anth wrote:It makes no-one happy.

I'm a

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B · Post by B » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:55 pm

fps_anth wrote:I never really understood the argument behind wanting the English dub with the Japanese score on the Dragon Box. I mean, who is it making happy?

New fans who are getting into the series...? People who don't mind the dub, but hate the music? I know those are pretty small territories, but this entire release is aimed at a small territory. And that's not getting into the fact that's the way it should have been in 1998; dub with Japanese music.

At the end of the day, this is all about the selling point of these sets, the video quality, not being tampered with. If you can fit three dubs on there without damage, who cares? However, if you can't... the fabrication should be cut. I'm having trouble understanding why people don't care about this. Looking awesome is the whole point of the DRAGONBOX.

El Diabeetus · Post by **El Diabeetus** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:56 pm

fps_anth wrote:Who exactly is the Dub w/ Japanese music appealing to? Most of the Japanese version fans don't care about it and most of the FUNi dub fans don't care about it. It makes no-one happy.

False, it makes me happy. When I was about 9, or 10, I got a DVD from the Freeza Saga, one day I switched the audio. Here I am a ten year old and I loved the Japanese music way over the Falcouner Music. The Falcouner Music is in no way bad... But, I've always wanted the English voices with Japanese Music, it's finally there. I know the Dub is inaccurate, but I really don't care. For me that track is taking the two best parts of nostalgia and making it better. Voices (English) and Music (Japanese), so yeah, me being the 16 year old hardcore fan, who is in a really weird side of the Dub/Sub Spectrum.

I'm an "in between person" for a lack of a better term. Literally, I could care less whether the English or Japanese track is on, I'm a fan of both. So, that track is for me. The longtime fan who happened to discover an awesome music track from me randomly switching audio tracks at the age of 10.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:58 pm

fps_anth wrote:I never really understood the argument behind wanting the English dub with the Japanese score on the Dragon Box. I mean, who is it making happy? I'm not going to watch the English version no matter what. I love the Japanese voices and I love the Japanese music. Together.

I am certain that there is a huge fanbase behind the original Japanese version and the Falcouner dub. Who exactly is the Dub w/ Japanese music appealing to? Most of the Japanese version fans don't care about it and most of the FUNi dub fans don't care about it. It makes no-one happy.

You have points, but...with most other anime, the Japanese music wouldn't have been replaced to begin with, and this problem wouldn't even come up. Maybe FUNi's trying to phase it out at this point? I'm not saying that's right or wrong, it's just a thought.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:00 am

SSJ4 Furanki wrote:The Falcouner Music is in no way bad... But, I've always wanted the English voices with Japanese Music, it's finally there. I know the Dub is inaccurate, but I really don't care. For me that track is taking the two best parts of nostalgia and making it better.

That is exactly how I feel. I used to like Faulconer's music, but since I first watched the Japanese version way back in... 2001 or something I had fallen in love with the Japanese music. I hold the English actors with a special place in my heart, so the 5.1 track is the best of both worlds for me.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:07 am

Bussani wrote:
Maybe it's FUNi's fault for choosing to word it that way? Is that what this is all about?

For me thats not what its about but it could be part of the Sub/Dub problem. You have the Dub fans on this site who feel below everyone else and are told that the Dragonbox is something for the hardcore fans and not for them. Like for them its Brick or nothing. When in fact thats not true, we are all hardcore fans and we all deserve the best production of Dragonball possible.

As for the Dub dialogue and original music, Id buy it. I love both versions of the series but I lean towards the Dub for nostalgic reasons so having the best of both worlds is really the selling point for me. Its funny, People will bitch about the Falconer music but when Funimation replaces it for the original music now all of a sudden no one wants it?

So...what am I trying to get at here...oh yea! STOP FIGHTING AND JUST ENJOY THE SERIES ALREADY!!!

Now then, does anyone know if we are gonna get the scouter walkie talkies with the Dragonbox because I really want one.

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:31 am

fps_anth wrote: I am certain that there is a huge fanbase behind the original Japanese version and the Falcouner dub. Who exactly is the Dub w/ Japanese music appealing to? Most of the Japanese version fans don't care about it and most of the FUNi dub fans don't care about it. It makes no-one happy.

Wrong-O!

The dub w. Japanese track is something I've wanted for years. And now, I have it. And I AM HAPPY. In fact, I got a co-worker to watch DBZ with the dub/Japanese music track, and he is enjoying the show a lot.

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:54 am

Found a detailed listing at RightStuf for the set:

The battle to harness the power of the seven Dragon Balls explodes in vivid detail like never before. The Dragon Box features over 40 uncut episodes, remastered and restored frame by frame, rendering the legendary action in pristine clarity. Each episode is presented in Japanese or English with the complete opening and closing credits and includes the original episode previews.

The last survivors of a cruel, warrior race, these ruthless villains have carved a path of destruction across the galaxy, an now they have set their sights on Earth! They will stop at nothing until they have the wish-granting powers of the seven magic Dragon Balls for their very own.

With the fate of his family, friends, and the entire human race hanging in the balance, Goku, the Earths greatest hero, must rise to meet the approaching threat. As he prepares for the fight of his life, Goku embarks on n epic journey that will take him to other worlds, pit him against new and old enemies alike, and force him to confront the dark secrets of his own past. At the end of this path, the most powerful opponent he has ever faced awaits: the evil Saiyan Prince Vegeta!

Contains episodes 1-42.

Special Features: 48-page Collector's Booklet, Trailers.

Spoken Languages: English, Japanese, English subtitles.

http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827 ... 4587/4/0/0

48-page booklet, huh? Hmmm...

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:52 am

No extras it seems, hopefully that's either wrong, or maybe we'll get the Extras Discs spread out through the other boxsets, there's 3 extra discs so hopefully they'll put them in boxsets 2, 4 and 6...

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:33 am

The problem here is, no matter what FUNi does, they'll piss SOMEONE off.

1: They keep the Broadcast Dub - They piss off the Fans who've gotten used to the Japanese Music or have always liked the Japanese music
2: They keep the Japanese Music Track - They piss off the Faulconer fans.
3: They keep both Tracks - They risk compromising the Video, which will piss off... EVERYBODY since the Major selling point of these sets is, and always has been, the Video Quality of the Dragon Box Masters.

Honestly... I think it's gonna be the Japanese Audio track simply because, it's become Standard for FUNi to include a 5.1 Audio track in their releases, and that Track is ALREADY mixed in 5.1, so no need for doing any remixing or altering, it's already in the can and ready to roll out.

But personally, I don't care. So long as the Video quality is fine, I'm fine with my Japanese Audio. I don't even care about the subs

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:11 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyzzqOEVoXM

This is the rant that I promised to some people on here, I don't know how it turned out. Its a bit controversial, but ehh rants are supposed to be controversial. Anyways looks like a lot more people have changed their minds and are going to at least "support" but most of them to buy the Dragon Box instead of diss on it, which is good.

And then there's the few people saying why buy it use illegal torrents. Sigh.

dragonpiece · Post by **dragonpiece** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:22 am

Brad Redfield wrote:Found a detailed listing at RightStuf for the set:

The battle to harness the power of the seven Dragon Balls explodes in vivid detail like never before. The Dragon Box features over 40 uncut episodes, remastered and restored frame by frame, rendering the legendary action in pristine clarity. Each episode is presented in Japanese or English with the complete opening and closing credits and includes the original episode previews.

The last survivors of a cruel, warrior race, these ruthless villains have carved a path of destruction across the galaxy, an now they have set their sights on Earth! They will stop at nothing until they have the wish-granting powers of the seven magic Dragon Balls for their very own.

With the fate of his family, friends, and the entire human race hanging in the balance, Goku, the Earths greatest hero, must rise to meet the approaching threat. As he prepares for the fight of his life, Goku embarks on n epic journey that will take him to other worlds, pit him against new and old enemies alike, and force him to confront the dark secrets of his own past. At the end of this path, the most powerful opponent he has ever faced awaits: the evil Saiyan Prince Vegeta!

Contains episodes 1-42.

Special Features: 48-page Collector's Booklet, Trailers.

Spoken Languages: English, Japanese, English subtitles.

http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827 ... 4587/4/0/0
48-page booklet, huh? Hmmm...

I don't know why, but I am a little mad at funimation tricking us about this not be a whole 80 page hardcore book. But i guess i can deal with the real remastered episodes. Just was hoping for a little more bang for my buck

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:40 am

dragonpiece wrote:
Brad Redfield wrote:Found a detailed listing at RightStuf for the set:

The battle to harness the power of the seven Dragon Balls explodes in vivid detail like never before. The Dragon Box features over 40 uncut episodes, remastered and restored frame by frame, rendering the legendary action in pristine clarity. Each episode is presented in Japanese or English with the complete opening and closing credits and includes the original episode previews.

The last survivors of a cruel, warrior race, these ruthless villains have carved a path of destruction across the galaxy, an now they have set their sights on Earth! They will stop at nothing until they have the wish-granting powers of the seven magic Dragon Balls for their very own.

With the fate of his family, friends, and the entire human race hanging in the balance, Goku, the Earths greatest hero, must rise to meet the approaching threat. As he prepares for the fight of his life, Goku embarks on n epic journey that will take him to other worlds, pit him against new and old enemies alike, and force him to confront the dark secrets of his own past. At the end of this path, the most powerful opponent he has ever faced awaits: the evil Saiyan Prince Vegeta!

Contains episodes 1-42.

Special Features: 48-page Collector's Booklet, Trailers.

Spoken Languages: English, Japanese, English subtitles.

http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827 ... 4587/4/0/0
48-page booklet, huh? Hmmm...

I don't know why, but I am a little mad at funimation tricking us about this not be a whole 80 page hardcore book. But i guess i can deal with the real remastered episodes. Just was hoping for a little more bang for my buck

Maybe they realized to fit all the information that was in the Japanese DBoxes spanned across 7 Books, 80 was too many?

Or maybe Right Stuff is just wrong.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:44 am

dragonpiece wrote: I don't know why, but I am a little mad at funimation tricking us about this not be a whole 80 page hardcore book. But i guess i can deal with the real remastered episodes. Just was hoping for a little more bang for my buck

I just figured they were going to include each of the books in the first volume of their respective halves of the Dragonboxes.

And clearly you have no idea how much these sets actually cost to buy in Japan, because these sets are a fucking steal.

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:29 am

I don't know if this was posted, but this is the trailer that was in Otakon.

The one in FUNimation's blog is unviewable from outside USA, but someone uploaded it on his channel for non-American viewers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6toHb9 ... re=related

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:40 am

They could be dividing the books up across the volumes, it doesn't work out to be 42 pages, but dividing 256 (two 128 page books) by 7 equals 36, which isn't too far off.

Who knows, they could be adding some extra information to flesh it out a little.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:21 pm

I knew this would happen

Let me rephrase that. It makes "a group much smaller than the groups that want the Falcouner Dub and the Japanese Version" happy.

There