"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:56 am

Grimlock wrote:I do, but not Gohan. Not the pacific, great scholar wannabe Gohan we know. He's that typical young man that just doesn't get out of the track. He's not Goku. He dedicates time to his family, he dedicates time to study... Then he dedicates some time to spar.
He can be "not Goku" and still dedicate time to train. Even if he isn't pushing himself to the brink, all he needs is to regain his unlocked potential. It's a power he already has, he just needs to get it back.
Grimlock wrote:And we have this:
We Asked Akira Toriyama! 2013

At times when there are no battles, or on days off, what sorts of things do the warriors do?

(...) Gohan studies (...)
This was before Gohan's training was introduced, you can't honestly use it as evidence now.
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Post by Totamo » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:56 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Uh, no? He's been training since between F and the Champa arc.
Any evidence? I just remember the spar (not training) he had with Piccolo, which contribute nothing to a major power-up.
Episodes 27 and 30 both outright said he was training with Piccolo, 67 seemed to imply that he was off training with Piccolo and 75 showed him fighting evenly with Super Saiyan Goku.
You see, this is my issue with gohan fans, despite him being my third favorite character. You guys read into thing too much without thinking of context or hinsight.

Literally after they mentioned him training, he ignores going to tournament to go to a conference.

In a trunks episode, piccolo even says himself that gohan isn't a martial artist anymore.

In that sparring match, goku was holding back, he always holds back.

In that last goku even talks about gohan getting back his fighting sense, why would goku mention that if his son was training?

I also promise you that in episode 80, gohan ain't sensing ki and will get jobbed. It won't be pretty.


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Post by incarnati0n » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:05 am

I think all that Gohan training stuff was from Toei. Probably since he already knew about what was to come he wanted to not let fans forget about Gohan so they tried to put some training stuff and some hints along the way. So from what we saw last episode when Goku was trying to recruit him I would presume that Gohan has not been training.

Also, is it only me or does anyone else see a bit of princess Trunks in that fembroly design?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:06 am

It doesn't really matter who's idea it was anymore. It happened and it's relevant.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:09 am

Totamo wrote:
You see, this is my issue with gohan fans, despite him being my third favorite character. You guys read into thing too much without thinking of context or hinsight.

Literally after they mentioned him training, he ignores going to tournament to go to a conference.
He was only going to go to the tournament to test how far he'd come, there weren't any real stakes in the tournament so his life took precedence over fighting for fun.
Totamo wrote:In a trunks episode, piccolo even says himself that gohan isn't a martial artist anymore.
And Krillin just went back to training for his family and even told Goku he wasn't going to become a martial artist again. Gohan is a scholar and a family man first, but he trains to protect his family, not to be a martial artist.
Totamo wrote:In that sparring match, goku was holding back, he always holds back.
That's your speculation, he seemed to be pretty into the fight and was surprised by Gohan, unlike in his bout with Trunks who couldn't even land a single blow.

Totamo wrote:In that last goku even talks about gohan getting back his fighting sense, why would goku mention that if his son was training?
Training and having friendly sparring matches isn't the same as having real fights, Gohan hasn't had a real fight in a while, outside of Watagash.
Totamo wrote:I also promise you that in episode 80, gohan ain't sensing ki and will get jobbed. It won't be pretty.
The preview makes it sound like he can't sense Ki BECAUSE of the poison. I think it's very likely he wins, and even if he doesn't he can still have a power up afterwards and/or have great fights in the tournament proper where he doesn't have his sight and ki sensing taken from him.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:16 am

The only discussion I can read page after page is about Gohan, good job toie, everyone has eyes on him now :thumbup:
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Post by TheMathemagician » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:37 am

Grimlock wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:You know he can do two things simultaneously, right?
I do, but not Gohan. Not the pacific, great scholar wannabe Gohan we know. He's that typical young man that just doesn't get out of the track. He's not Goku. He dedicates time to his family, he dedicates time to study... Then he dedicates some time to spar.

And we have this:
We Asked Akira Toriyama! 2013

At times when there are no battles, or on days off, what sorts of things do the warriors do?

(...) Gohan studies (...)
I don't know, Goku's been around his family and working as a farmer fairly often. He's honestly been better in that regard.
Ki Breaker wrote:The only discussion I can read page after page is about Gohan, good job toie, everyone has eyes on him now :thumbup:
It'll probably switch off between Goku and Gohan of the U7 fighters depending on who has the bigger news to talk about at the moment. :P
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Post by Kishido » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:12 am

Just wait for Android 17

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:25 am

Kishido wrote:Just wait for Android 17
Maybe he managed to unlock that power which gero stopped his access to..
He does have an aura which he never had before
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Post by Freeza9000 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:35 am

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:06 am

kinisking wrote:
IGhostUlt wrote:Namekiansaiyan, you were the same guy who was telling us to give up on gohan when he wasnt relevant. Now ur trying to switch it up on us by bashing us. Cut the crap. You're just a hater man that's it. We get it you don't like gohan.
Exactly. At least I can stand Ekrolo and Doctor. hating on him because they're at least slightly amusing and reasonable about it. NamekianSaiyan just gets straight up annoying though.

Also guys, I wouldn't read into the sparks too much. Sparks were shown in a game opening before too. It probably doesn't mean anything significant. [I'm just glad he's taking fighting seriously again.]
That is why I don't like him. Why should he be get power ups and fights when other characters who fight and train all their lives get nothing. Every fighter whether good or evil likes to fight apart from Gohan. He ruins a show where he does not belong.

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Post by Kishido » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:41 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Kishido wrote:Just wait for Android 17
Maybe he managed to unlock that power which gero stopped his access to..
He does have an aura which he never had before
I made a thread about th aura.

In Short... I think he finally is using his human powers as well

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:52 am

So this what Toyo meant when he said he would be ahead of the anime and sending work back to them and we had a two month break all the pieces starting to fit. Also did Toyo flat out design these himself or did Toriyama still come up with the concept? Either way no complaints at all except maybe the Robot not a fan. Glad to see Toyo involved more than just a monthly promo Manga.

Also call me crazy but I don't care about Gohan now, I think Buu arc Kai is rubbing off on me as I am feeling indifferent towards him now.

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Post by Kanassa » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:26 am

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It's still cheating. Being a villain does not change that.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:48 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
kinisking wrote:
IGhostUlt wrote:Namekiansaiyan, you were the same guy who was telling us to give up on gohan when he wasnt relevant. Now ur trying to switch it up on us by bashing us. Cut the crap. You're just a hater man that's it. We get it you don't like gohan.
Exactly. At least I can stand Ekrolo and Doctor. hating on him because they're at least slightly amusing and reasonable about it. NamekianSaiyan just gets straight up annoying though.

Also guys, I wouldn't read into the sparks too much. Sparks were shown in a game opening before too. It probably doesn't mean anything significant. [I'm just glad he's taking fighting seriously again.]
That is why I don't like him. Why should he be get power ups and fights when other characters who fight and train all their lives get nothing. Every fighter whether good or evil likes to fight apart from Gohan. He ruins a show where he does not belong.
The reason he stopped training is the same reason why Piccolo stopped making gains: Toriyama just didn't want to use them. We'll see what the future has for both of them.

Thanks for giving a reasonable answer though. Although your constant insults do get annoying to read.
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Post by dragonballgeek » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:13 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
kinisking wrote:
IGhostUlt wrote:Namekiansaiyan, you were the same guy who was telling us to give up on gohan when he wasnt relevant. Now ur trying to switch it up on us by bashing us. Cut the crap. You're just a hater man that's it. We get it you don't like gohan.
Exactly. At least I can stand Ekrolo and Doctor. hating on him because they're at least slightly amusing and reasonable about it. NamekianSaiyan just gets straight up annoying though.

Also guys, I wouldn't read into the sparks too much. Sparks were shown in a game opening before too. It probably doesn't mean anything significant. [I'm just glad he's taking fighting seriously again.]
That is why I don't like him. Why should he be get power ups and fights when other characters who fight and train all their lives get nothing. Every fighter whether good or evil likes to fight apart from Gohan. He ruins a show where he does not belong.
I think it's been implied the ENTIRE Dragon Ball series that Gohan is special. It just so happens that he doesn't really have a desire to use that gift. So if the writers decide that they're going to throw him back in there, you're going to get over it and watch the show anyways.

There are plenty of shows out there where a strong and talented fighter doesn't have the desire to fight, so why is he out of place for this???

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:32 am

dragonballgeek wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
I think it's been implied the ENTIRE Dragon Ball series that Gohan is special. It just so happens that he doesn't really have a desire to use that gift. So if the writers decide that they're going to throw him back in there, you're going to get over it and watch the show anyways.

There are plenty of shows out there where a strong and talented fighter doesn't have the desire to fight, so why is he out of place for this???
Your Avatar Pic, would be the perfect image if Gohan gets SSJ Ikari combined with Mystic form.

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Post by New_Guy » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:38 am

Hmm... Since this tournament involves all of the universes, I wonder if the audiences will be able to view it on Kami Tube back on their respective universes or planets. If so then it's quite obvious where Dr. Myuu got his idea to create "Hakaishin no Lood". I could be thinking too deep into it but if that is by any chance a little GT foreshadowing, that would be pretty damn dope.

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Post by dragonballgeek » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:42 am

perucho1990 wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
I think it's been implied the ENTIRE Dragon Ball series that Gohan is special. It just so happens that he doesn't really have a desire to use that gift. So if the writers decide that they're going to throw him back in there, you're going to get over it and watch the show anyways.

There are plenty of shows out there where a strong and talented fighter doesn't have the desire to fight, so why is he out of place for this???
Your Avatar Pic, would be the perfect image if Gohan gets SSJ Ikari combined with Mystic form.

Haha :lol:

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Post by DBZ Macky » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:46 am

New_Guy wrote:Hmm... Since this tournament involves all of the universes, I wonder if the audiences will be able to view it on Kami Tube back on their respective universes or planets. If so then it's quite obvious where Dr. Myuu got his idea to create "Hakaishin no Lood". I could be thinking too deep into it but if that is by any chance a little GT foreshadowing, that would be pretty damn dope.
Are mortals even supposed to be watching GodTube?
So Bulma and co. would be able to see Goku and co.s matches while sitting at home? Does GodTube support live broadcasts?
Sheesh, I wanna know more about GodTube.
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