"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Xeogran]

The eventual Sadala arc...I've given up hope

It's been teased so long ago that they probably forgot about it themselves.

Spoiler:

Now that I've said this, watch it actually happen

[Matches Malone]

The eventual Sadala arc...I've given up hope

It's been teased so long ago that they probably forgot about it themselves.

Spoiler:

Now that I've said this, watch it actually happen

A planet full of Saiyans will provide them with years worth of cards, dlc, and figures. There's no way they're going to pass that on.

[theherodjl]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

[Xeogran]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Would be an asspull considering he didn't bother appearing in the ToP then.

[theherodjl]

Would be an asspull considering he didn't bother appearing in the ToP then.

Broly was an asspull. It could be said the same for 7-3 and Moro too. There were already a few guys that had a ton of power(and certainly some interesting abilities) in U7 that could've participated in the ToP...but didn't for reasons. Whis apparently overlooked these characters so it might not be out of the question that Vados could've overlooked King Sadala.

[Matches Malone]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Ssj
Ssj Grade 2
Ssj Grade 3
LSsj
Ssj2
Ssj3
Ssj4
SsjG
SsjB
SsjR
Ssj Rage.
SsjB Evolution.
UI Omen
Mastered UI

That's FOURTEEN Saiyan transformations, do we really need any more ? To give you an idea about how out of control these forms are, Super alone doubled the number of forms Saiyans have access to. In the original, it took the manga, a movie, and GT to get to 7.

[TKA]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Stuff like this is why I'm generally against fans having any kind of say in a franchise.

It'd be more in the spirit of dragonball if the king of sadala was a short, fat, cheerful dude who's barely stronger than the farmer Raditz killed in the first episode of "Z".

[The Undying]

"Goku and Vegeta go to Sadala."

Okay. What about this premise is interesting? What exactly is getting "hyped"? What sort of background information on the planet would we get that wasn't already explored in the Universe 6 and Universe Survival arcs, and how would that make for a compelling story? What does a Saiyan-themed story add to Super when we literally just had one in 2018?

I'm not one to shit on an idea before assessing its execution and letting the plot play out first, but there's nothing inherently exciting about this.

[The Bastard.]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Stuff like this is why I'm generally against fans having any kind of say in a franchise.

It'd be more in the spirit of dragonball if the king of sadala was a short, fat, cheerful dude who's barely stronger than the farmer Raditz killed in the first episode of "Z".

Took the words out of my mouth, Dragon Ball is about subverting expectations and doing gags, him being a lazy guy always swamped in bureocracy when he wishes he could be doing anything else, since the Sayajins are the space police would be more fitting, and funnier too.

[theherodjl]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Ssj
Ssj Grade 2
Ssj Grade 3
LSsj
Ssj2
Ssj3
Ssj4
SsjG
SsjB
SsjR
Ssj Rage.
SsjB Evolution.
UI Omen
Mastered UI

That's FOURTEEN Saiyan transformations, do we really need any more ? To give you an idea about how out of control these forms are, Super alone doubled the number of forms Saiyans have access to. In the original, it took the manga, a movie, and GT to get to 7.

Considering that SSJ is pretty much a requirement for Saiyan characters in the franchise at this point, I suppose? Would you rather we see the characters climb the SSJ ladder that the U6 Saiyans seem to be doing or going for a more unique variant of SSJ?

[DevilKing99]

Would be an asspull considering he didn't bother appearing in the ToP then.

Broly was an asspull. It could be said the same for 7-3 and Moro too. There were already a few guys that had a ton of power(and certainly some interesting abilities) in U7 that could've participated in the ToP...but didn't for reasons. Whis apparently overlooked these characters so it might not be out of the question that Vados could've overlooked King Sadala.

King Sadala would have even overshadowed Jiren if he appeared in the top arc because of several simple things.

1. He is a king of Saiyans, there is no Shueisha/Toei/Bandai is not going to push this dude everywhere and make him strong as hell.

2. A major royal Saiyan character they can give any type of royal power to.

3. They could use him to introduce a brand new royal Saiyan family, this is guranteed.

4. look at this image that games story is from the Dragon Ball Room = Shueisa and Bandai

5. I know there going to use King Sadala create more Saiyan Princes and Princesses, as well as a Queen.

[DevilKing99]

They already stated King Sadala is just like Vegeta at him being a gag character

Also who the hell want the king of the main character race to a gag that nobody is even going to like anyways?, case in point nobody cares about Monaka at all.

[theherodjl]

I'd like to see this King of Sadala finally make an appearance and state that he has long since known of SSJ but has something even better. Perhaps showing off a previously-unknown variant of SSJ that puts him on par with Vegeta?

Stuff like this is why I'm generally against fans having any kind of say in a franchise.

It'd be more in the spirit of dragonball if the king of sadala was a short, fat, cheerful dude who's barely stronger than the farmer Raditz killed in the first episode of "Z".

It was just a suggestion. Sheesh.

[LoganForkHands73]

Would be an asspull considering he didn't bother appearing in the ToP then.

Broly was an asspull. It could be said the same for 7-3 and Moro too. There were already a few guys that had a ton of power(and certainly some interesting abilities) in U7 that could've participated in the ToP...but didn't for reasons. Whis apparently overlooked these characters so it might not be out of the question that Vados could've overlooked King Sadala.

The key difference being that Broly and Moro weren't known to anyone before the Tournament of Power, whereas the King of Sadala is, well, the ruler of the entire Saiyan race so of course he's both highly famous and influential to the people of Universe 6. Besides, Beerus and Whis pretty much left all the recruiting to Goku out of typical laziness, whereas Vados personally scouted for the strongest fighters she could detect at Champa's command. If he were somehow as powerful as Vegeta, there'd be no reason for him not to participate when his entire universe is on the line, especially since Cabba describes him fondly as a proud, honourable man. Cabba said that the King is only similar to Vegeta in terms of his personality, he said nothing about him being in any way comparable to Vegeta in power.

Funny that it was mentioned that the King of Sadala would probably be a fatass, that's pretty much how I've always pictured him honestly. Either a round Sourman-looking dude with a trolldoll haircut or a very elderly, lanky Kami-like figure who may have once been a badass but has long since passed his prime. The latter would probably fit in better with the design philosophy of the other Universe 6 Saiyans. The fanart of the King being a red-and-black Vegeta clone with red eye-liner and a bitch by his side is probably going to be furthest from reality.

I have to agree with the general sentiments about the Sadala arc, I've never really got the hype surrounding the idea. People are acting like it was promised to us when it's never really been hinted that there are plans for such a thing beyond Vegeta saying he wants to meet the King. It's barely a concept, not a story. It's like all the talk of an "Evil Angel" storyline. Until someone comes up with a concrete story and characters that don't rip off the general premise of the Zamasu arc, why should I care? I found Zamasu interesting because of his motivations, personality, design, descent into villainy, etc, not just his status as an evil Kai.

[Skar]

I have to agree with the general sentiments about the Sadala arc, I've never really got the hype surrounding the idea. People are acting like it was promised to us when it's never really been hinted that there are plans for such a thing beyond Vegeta saying he wants to meet the King. It's barely a concept, not a story. It's like all the talk of an "Evil Angel" storyline. Until someone comes up with a concrete story and characters that don't rip off the general premise of the Zamasu arc, why should I care? I found Zamasu interesting because of his motivations, personality, design, descent into villainy, etc, not just his status as an evil Kai.

I have the same opinion. It might've been more of a nice farewell than a confirmation it was going to happen. The ToP took place a year after the Champa arc but Cabba never thought to ask Vados if she could invite Vegeta over to U6. This seems like an obvious choice for one of the suggestions they've offered Toriyama so he might've already decided against it.

[LoganForkHands73]

I have the same opinion. It might've been more of a nice farewell than a confirmation it was going to happen. The ToP took place a year after the Champa arc but Cabba never thought to ask Vados if she could invite Vegeta over to U6. This seems like an obvious choice for one of the suggestions they've offered Toriyama so he might've already decided against it.

Yeah, I mean, when a friend or acquaintance recommends you meet someone cool they know and you're like "yeah sure", what are the chances that you're actually gonna follow through? So far it's a dangling thread but it's not the most pressing one by a long shot.

So far, I respect that Toriyama/Toyo/Toei (shall we just refer to them "The To's" from now on?) have gone for quality over quantity when it comes to introducing new Universe 6 Saiyan characters. We've only met three major ones out of their entire race so far and all of them have been developed reasonably well. Call me naive but I don't think the To's are suddenly gonna go crazy with introducing tonnes more without any fanfare. I mean, does anyone care about Caulifla's brother Renso? Are people clamouring for action figures and Heroes cards of him?

[head_cha_la]

Lots of people on Twitter and other social networks are clamoring for figures of Caulifla, Kale, and Kefla.

And want new stories and fights with characters from universe 6. There are suggestions in the forums and other social networks in the U.S. in France and elsewhere.

In France there are even videos of Youtubers who would like when the story of Goku is over, a spin-off where we will follow the adventures of the characters from universe 6.

[Matches Malone]

Would you rather we see the characters climb the SSJ ladder that the U6 Saiyans seem to be doing or going for a more unique variant of SSJ?

I'd rather they throw all those forms out the window in favor of something like Omen or Mystic.

[Magnificent Ponta]

Since this is the manga thread, I think it's worth pointing out that the exchange between Cabbe and Vegeta that a lot of people are referring to (about the King of Sadla) doesn't actually happen in the manga - it's an anime-only exchange. Vegeta asks to be allowed to visit Sadla one day, but the only reference to the King that there's been (that I know of) is in Chapter 32, which basically just tells us that he exists (and receives tribute for the job that his army does). Vegeta has no firm idea that there is a King of Sadla, so there can't be any eagerness on his part to meet him.

As for the notion of a Sadla arc, I have to agree with the people expressing a general lack of enthusiasm for the idea as such. While I'm sure an arc could be done that folds in Sadla as a (temporary) setting and some Universe 6 Saiyans as part of the cast, it isn't clear to me that they could hold an entire arc themselves (not compellingly, anyway). They might work for an issue or two in the context of a broader adventure as part of a more significant arc (e.g., a search for the Super Dragon Balls), but I don't know that there's much point in wasting an arc on what sounds like it would be an inter-Universe picnic and history lesson. Leave that stuff to the guidebooks.

[GodVegetto91]

Would you rather we see the characters climb the SSJ ladder that the U6 Saiyans seem to be doing or going for a more unique variant of SSJ?

I'd rather they throw all those forms out the window in favor of something like Omen or Mystic.

I agree. But then “Omen”, or rather, shall I say, (the black haired version), should then ideally be the only version of UI. I.e. just “Ultra Instinct” which by definition is already perfected. Or in other words, they should have never introduced the silver haired version.

What do you think?