"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[DBSQA]

While I'm just throwing random things out there i'm pretty confident that the Zen Exhibition match is a Toei original thing and wasn't in Toriyama's draft and won't be in the manga. I thinks after it we're gonna get about 8 or so gathering and training the team episodes and Toei just wanted to set the stage for the arc and have some action to keep people interested as well as sort out the animation schedule. Which is why U9 won't be destroyed by Zeno before the actual tournament.

I'm getting similar vibes too. The only thing that kinda throws a wrench in this theory for me is that they used a Toriyama designed God for this exhibition match when they could have just used one of the others and that might mean it's because it was in the outline that this is how he wants Sidra used. I mean, not all of them are going to get equal screen time, so for "filler" to give some to Toriyama's character feels weird. Of course that's assuming Universe 9 wouldn't actually play a small role in the tournament proper, since it's very possible considering Universe 11 is focused on a lot.

Both can be true i just don't find it likely that Toriyama would design the fighters for a universe that Toyotaro designed the GoD for. Which may also go vice versa but I dunno. By letting him create the GoD for a universe he's letting him create the aesthetic which he probably wouldn't interfere with by making his own character from there.

Toriyama already designed the Angel for Universe 8, for which Toyotaro designed the God, so it's not impossible. Except the pattern of Universes adding up to 13, I don't think there's more to it. They would just limit themselves.

So the universe is suppose to add up to 13? How come U9 and U7 don't add up?U7 is fighting against U9

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I was thinking about it and it probably would have been pretty easy for Toriyama to create all 12 GoDs by himself.

So why didn't he?

Keep in mind that the new characters aren't limited to the new GoD's, Kaioshin, and Angels, but also the new fighters. It's well over a hundred designs that would have to be completed fairly quickly, Toriyama obviously wouldn't create all of them.

[Draconic]

So the universe is suppose to add up to 13? How come U9 and U7 don't add up?U7 is fighting against U9

No no no. Twin Universes add up to 13, so Universe 1 is paired with Universe 12 or Universe 6 with 7. While the Gods have designs made by both Toyotaro and Toriyama, they only made designs in pairs (Toyble 1-12, 2-11, 5-8; Tori 6-7, 4-9; both 3-10). The fights happen randomly I guess.

[DBSQA]

So the universe is suppose to add up to 13? How come U9 and U7 don't add up?U7 is fighting against U9

No no no. Twin Universes add up to 13, so Universe 1 is paired with Universe 12 or Universe 6 with 7. While the Gods have designs made by both Toyotaro and Toriyama, they only made designs in pairs (Toyble 1-12, 2-11, 5-8; Tori 6-7, 4-9; both 3-10). The fights happen randomly I guess.

Oh ok so it's the one that is most similar that adds up to 13

[alakazam^]

Toriyama has already stated that Toyo will be his successor

What? Where did you see this? I'm pretty sure he didn't say anything like that.

[Kanassa]

Toriyama has already stated that Toyo will be his successor

What? Where did you see this? I'm pretty sure he didn't say anything like that.

For xenoverse 2, Toyo made a short manga chapter for a guidebook that goes with the delux edition, in said book there's a note from Toriyama confirming this.

[Nejishiki]

Toriyama has already stated that Toyo will be his successor

What? Where did you see this? I'm pretty sure he didn't say anything like that.

For xenoverse 2, Toyo made a short manga chapter for a guidebook that goes with the delux edition, in said book there's a note from Toriyama confirming this.

Well, Toriyama wasn't exactly quoted on that but you're correct in that the successor claim is featured in Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2.
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[ShadowBardock89]

Didn't he also say the same for Naho Ooishi?

Also, with Toyo getting more involved, do you think he'll have more input in Super?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

...with Toyo getting more involved, do you think he'll have more input in Super?

His manga has been universally well-received, so it's possible he'll help with the general story adaptation. I think he'll definitely design some of the characters from now on.

[alakazam^]

I don't think him drawing Dragon Ball makes him Toriyama's successor, though. He's somewhat a glorified assistant.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I don't think him drawing Dragon Ball makes him Toriyama's successor, though. He's somewhat a glorified assistant.

Oh, he's a total gimmick, but he can still take over some of the important aspects of the franchise if need be.

[Kishido]

Quick question... if the tournament will have proper rules like not using items and gadgets are 17 and 18 allowed?

Their whole body is one big gadget done by Gero

[Boo Machine]

Quick question... if the tournament will have proper rules like not using items and gadgets are 17 and 18 allowed?

Their whole body is one big gadget done by Gero

I doubt they would know that. So they probably won't mind that they're partly mechanical. If it's does get attention brought on it, then at the very least I imagine they get treated like Maggeta the metal man. Just another species that happens to be made of metal that can fight.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I wonder if the red power up we see in the opening will be something only Goku can use.

[GokuBlack]

^Looks like a kaioken upgrade.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Quick question... if the tournament will have proper rules like not using items and gadgets are 17 and 18 allowed?

Their whole body is one big gadget done by Gero

I doubt they would know that. So they probably won't mind that they're partly mechanical. If it's does get attention brought on it, then at the very least I imagine they get treated like Maggeta the metal man. Just another species that happens to be made of metal that can fight.

#17 & #18 have bio-organic modifications, even their infinite energy reactors are organic, the only mechanical parts they have are the mechanisms for their bombs (which are removed) and their shut-down devices, aka things that have nothing to do with fighting.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Quick question... if the tournament will have proper rules like not using items and gadgets are 17 and 18 allowed?

Their whole body is one big gadget done by Gero

I doubt they would know that. So they probably won't mind that they're partly mechanical. If it's does get attention brought on it, then at the very least I imagine they get treated like Maggeta the metal man. Just another species that happens to be made of metal that can fight.

#17 & #18 have bio-organic modifications, even their infinite energy reactors are organic, the only mechanical parts they have are the mechanisms for their bombs (which are removed) and their shut-down devices, aka things that have nothing to do with fighting.

Wait, their reactors are organic? Where did you get that info?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

^Looks like a kaioken upgrade.

I still don't think so. It's an ominous tease, and ominously teasing KK doesn't make sense since it's nothing new just flat out show it why the tease not to mention the colour is completely different and no Blue Aura yet Goku's hair is in similar SS style as we know he can only use KK with SSGSS, also the whole point of KK was it is a supposed be a last resort thing any upgrade that gets rid of that just kills the whole idea of it especially given Kaio's warning about Goku never fighting again. Honestly I'd vastly prefer a new transformation as opossed to a mastered KK.

[SansrivaaL]

^Looks like a kaioken upgrade.

I still don't think so. It's an ominous tease, and ominously teasing KK doesn't make sense since it's nothing new just flat out show it why the tease not to mention the colour is completely different and no Blue Aura yet Goku's hair is in similar SS style as we know he can only use KK with SSGSS, also the whole point of KK was it is a supposed be a last resort thing any upgrade that gets rid of that just kills the whole idea of it especially given Kaio's warning about Goku never fighting again. Honestly I'd vastly prefer a new transformation as opossed to a mastered KK.

I feel like its a new form too, well AT's bringing his comments to life, didnt an interview of him says that he thinks red is a powerful color, while blue isnt? guess now he's keeping the red flamey aura in tact. Question is, will the hair and eyes also be colored red? or is this new form completely something different like having a different color of its hair and eyes to its aura, like say the haircolor/eyes and eyebrows are white while the aura's what we see in the OP, red with SSJGSSJ effects. I really want a dual color now!

[Legion]

I think is better do not take the opening too much seriously. I believe that is the kaioken too, for now. I'm also curious to see if the manga will be the same.