"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Boo Machine]

Why are people so hyped up to see 17? What's so cool about him apart from the fact that he's an android? I'm not hating, just to clarify, I just wanna know why

After he just kind of disappeared from sight after being absorbed by cell, people are just kind of curious about how he is and what he can do.

We have had some info on his life and we did see him giving energy to the spirit bomb but this is the first time in a long while we actually get to see him interact with everyone. It's pretty exciting. At least for me.

[Beyond]

There's a heroes card with the team of three Goku,Vegeta and 17. I feel like this confirms my suspicion that 17 is gonna have a lot of screen time probably 2nd or 3rd most. (I know heroes cards aren't usually indicative of anything)

Universe 7 Screen time Prediction:
Goku
Vegeta
17
Gohan
Krillin
18
Roshi
Piccolo
Tien
Buu

Piccolo should be dead last. Everyone else got something. Piccolo gotten nothing. It's hard being green in 2017.

[Pantheon]

Piccolo should be dead last. Everyone else got something. Piccolo gotten nothing. It's hard being green in 2017.

Nah Piccolo is probably gonna get some team battles with Gohan. Buu is probably gonna get one more fight and that's it he's definitely not getting any screen time after the exhibition match is done.

[GodKaio-Ken]

No, Goku's morality through the series is never called into question enough, I feel like this is a great chance for the character to grow. We already had Beerus and Gohan berate him, now the Multiverse is turning on him and I'm sure the rest of the people on Earth are going to be pissed when they find out, Vegeta especially probably won't take this well at all. If done right this could be the perfect way to make Goku grow as a character.

Personally I dont believe he has done anything wrong. He trusted someone he thought was his friend...and didnt lidten to a guy who only last arc was HORRIBLY inaccurate in his predictions.

My thoughts exactly, but that could all change depending on how they handle the upcoming eps for some folks that are defending Goku.

Definitely. I'm just going off what we know so far. If something happens later of course thats a new situation and maybe he will be at fault.

[Kishido]

Why are people so hyped up to see 17? What's so cool about him apart from the fact that he's an android? I'm not hating, just to clarify, I just wanna know why

Because he is the best.

No seriously... I was a fan of him back in my childhood days at the android saga... Always hoped he would return to the main cast at the Buu saga... Hasn't happened.

Than he appeared in GT... In the worst arc ever where he was just a walking manipulated puppet acting not on his own... Not even talking about the shitty concept of Super 17.

But now he is back any I'm full hype mode

[lord godly da don]

I see a lot of people saying it is going to be a 3v3 format in the main tournament but that sounds crazy when you think about it why would the Gods put the hopes of their universes on the shoulders of 30% of their team. I think it's going to be a battle royal were all 10 members fight at the same time and killing will be allowed so even if your team wins you're likely to lose some team mates so teaming up will be a focal point so you don't go into the next round short handed

[Pantheon]

I see a lot of people saying it is going to be a 3v3 format in the main tournament but that sounds crazy when you think about it why would the Gods put the hopes of their universes on the shoulders of 30% of their team. I think it's going to be a battle royal were all 10 members fight at the same time and killing will be allowed so even if your team wins you're likely to lose some team mates so teaming up will be a focal point so you don't go into the next round short handed

I think they will draw a random number from 10 and that's how many people will fight on each team that round. each unconcious person equals one point for the Universe that did it. so it would be a 3v3 Universe 7 defeats all 3 opponents and gets 3 points but they lose no one so the other universe gets 0 points. Then the dice will be rolled again and this time its 2, so now its a 2v2 (you can't use the same people twice) Universe 7 wins again so now the have 5 points. The universe with the most points at the end wins. It would be a good way to make sure every character gets a fight and multiple fights even if they lose a round.

[Kagari]

Why are people so hyped up to see 17? What's so cool about him apart from the fact that he's an android? I'm not hating, just to clarify, I just wanna know why

Because he's a cool character who was indefinitely sidelined. Now that he's getting a real role again (and not that disaster of a plotline they gave him in GT...) there's plenty of reason to be excited.

[TheGreatSaiyaman]

ahh dang it, now I'm kinda hyped to see what 17's life will be like

[kinisking]

Why are people so hyped up to see 17? What's so cool about him apart from the fact that he's an android? I'm not hating, just to clarify, I just wanna know why

He has a nice design, we haven't seen him a while so they'res a lot of possible character interactions, a d he was a pretty interesting villain.

[lord godly da don]

I see a lot of people saying it is going to be a 3v3 format in the main tournament but that sounds crazy when you think about it why would the Gods put the hopes of their universes on the shoulders of 30% of their team. I think it's going to be a battle royal were all 10 members fight at the same time and killing will be allowed so even if your team wins you're likely to lose some team mates so teaming up will be a focal point so you don't go into the next round short handed

I think they will draw a random number from 10 and that's how many people will fight on each team that round. each unconcious person equals one point for the Universe that did it. so it would be a 3v3 Universe 7 defeats all 3 opponents and gets 3 points but they lose no one so the other universe gets 0 points. Then the dice will be rolled again and this time its 2, so now its a 2v2 (you can't use the same people twice) Universe 7 wins again so now the have 5 points. The universe with the most points at the end wins. It would be a good way to make sure every character gets a fight and multiple fights even if they lose a round.

That's over complicating things plus what is the point of bringing 10 members if only 3 get to fight then your universe is wiped out if those 3 lose in their first match that would be a waste of character design and development because random fighters were chosen to represent you

[FortuneSSJ]

-Episode 81 preview-

So If Bergamo win, Zeno won't destroy the Universes that lose?! I hope Goku wins then!
Anyway I doubt they will shy away from the destruction of the loser Universes, because it's even in the promo and the arc wouldn't be called Universe Survival arc for nothing.

The spam of crybabies about Goku's character will be annoying, but whatever thats the most interesting route.

It's the best way to raise the stakes. As long as they restore everything in the end with the Super Dragon Balls I'm okay with that. Losing the other 11 Universes forever would be a colossal waste of infinite potential.

Can't wait to see what twist Toriyama will pull off next. He has been unpredictable in every story.
Maybe the Pride Troopers will win and as real Super-Heroes they will be the ones to clean up the mess afterwards.

[Kagari]

Bringing back so many characters is why the potential of this arc really excites me. Before now Super has focused more on a smaller cast (mainly Goku and Vegeta and a couple others), which is the opposite of what I wanted to see post-Battle of the Gods. Having such a diverse cast headline the series again is a great thing.

[perucho1990]

Piccolo should be dead last. Everyone else got something. Piccolo gotten nothing. It's hard being green in 2017.

Sady, this.

We know Piccolo always has some kind of roles and in this arc his role will be helping Gohan regain Mystic, thats it, after that he will be the jabronie of U7, he will be used to hype the likes of Tenshinhan.

As for 17 goes, I'm also hyped for his return because Toei should make up how horrible they handled 17 in GT, there was no reason for him to turn evil.

[kinisking]

Bringing back so many characters is why the potential of this arc really excites me. Before now Super has focused more on a smaller cast (mainly Goku and Vegeta and a couple others), which is the opposite of what I wanted to see post-Battle of the Gods. Having such a diverse cast headline the series again is a great thing.

I don't know why they ever thought having it just be Goku and Vegeta would be the right thing to do. BoG was the long awaited return of an incredibly loved cast... But they just make Goku and Vegeta do anything remotely important. ROF was better in this regard. Champa arc made it even worse. The treatment of other characters that arc was sickening. The Future Trunks arc is where they really started improving though.

[Pantheon]

That's over complicating things plus what is the point of bringing 10 members if only 3 get to fight then your universe is wiped out if those 3 lose in their first match

No that's not what i meant i might not have explained it well.

It would be a point system so up to 10 people could fight. The universe wouldn't get destroyed if they lost a round but it would if they lost a match.
Say Universe 7 is against Universe 5, a roulette would spin (the arena) and it will land on a number between 1 and 10. if the number is 3 the first round would be a 3v3. Say Universe 7 pick Goku, Vegeta and Gohan and they beat all three of the enemy universe's fighters without one of universe 7's members going unconscious, Universe 7 would get 3 points. After that round is done the roulette would spin again and decided the number of fighters for the next round(They are still versing the same universe).

Now the roulette lands on 2 so its a 2v2 Universe 7 picks Roshi and Krillin to fight. Roshi and Krillin lose to Universe 5's fighters but they beat 1 of the 2 Universe 5 fighters. Universe 7 now has 4 points and Universe 5 now has 2 points. This process would repeat until all 10 fighters have fought or it's mathematically impossible for one team to win. The universe with the most points at the end wins

[TheUltimateNinja]

That's over complicating things plus what is the point of bringing 10 members if only 3 get to fight then your universe is wiped out if those 3 lose in their first match

No that's not what i meant i might not have explained it well.

It would be a point system so up to 10 people could fight. The universe wouldn't get destroyed if they lost a round but it would if they lost a match.
Say Universe 7 is against Universe 5, a roulette would spin (the arena) and it will land on a number between 1 and 10. if the number is 3 the first round would be a 3v3. Say Universe 7 pick Goku, Vegeta and Gohan and they beat all three of the enemy universe's fighters without one of universe 7's members going unconscious, Universe 7 would get 3 points. After that round is done the roulette would spin again and decided the number of fighters for the next round(They are still versing the same universe).

Now the roulette lands on 2 so its a 2v2 Universe 7 picks Roshi and Krillin to fight. Roshi and Krillin lose to Universe 5's fighters but they beat 1 of the 2 Universe 5 fighters. Universe 7 now has 4 points and Universe 5 now has 2 points. This process would repeat until all 10 fighters have fought or it's mathematically impossible for one team to win. The universe with the most points at the end wins

What if both sides get 5 points?

[Pantheon]

What if both sides get 5 points?

There is probably a better solution but my brains not working just now so lets just say a tiebreaker.
Image Goku vs alien guy in the opening was the 1v1 tiebreaker to decide who wins the tournament that would be pretty high stakes and neat

[lord godly da don]

That's over complicating things plus what is the point of bringing 10 members if only 3 get to fight then your universe is wiped out if those 3 lose in their first match

No that's not what i meant i might not have explained it well.

It would be a point system so up to 10 people could fight. The universe wouldn't get destroyed if they lost a round but it would if they lost a match.
Say Universe 7 is against Universe 5, a roulette would spin (the arena) and it will land on a number between 1 and 10. if the number is 3 the first round would be a 3v3. Say Universe 7 pick Goku, Vegeta and Gohan and they beat all three of the enemy universe's fighters without one of universe 7's members going unconscious, Universe 7 would get 3 points. After that round is done the roulette would spin again and decided the number of fighters for the next round(They are still versing the same universe).

Now the roulette lands on 2 so its a 2v2 Universe 7 picks Roshi and Krillin to fight. Roshi and Krillin lose to Universe 5's fighters but they beat 1 of the 2 Universe 5 fighters. Universe 7 now has 4 points and Universe 5 now has 2 points. This process would repeat until all 10 fighters have fought or it's mathematically impossible for one team to win. The universe with the most points at the end wins

I got what your point was that is why I said that you were over complicating things because you can eliminate or be eliminated before all you're fighters have a chance to fight and since it is random there's a good chance your strongest combatants might not get a chance to compete if their team was wiped because their number wasn't randomly rolled it takes the chances of winning out of their hands that would create unfair competition

I most admit I like your point system but only to determine the best fighter since that's who wins the super dragonballs not the universe who wins the whole tournament

[Oracle]

What surprises me is that the adds imply a big roll of Android 17, maybe because it's 2017 or would this be the last time we will see him? Kinda like a sacrifice? I hardly see him being stronger than Piccolo. Offscreen training?