"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:10 pm

Chuquita wrote:Both years have their good points. I'll take either one.
Me too! I'd prefer EoZ a little bit, but it won't kill me if it's set before that.
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Post by Low Tone G » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:15 pm

Marco Polo wrote:If Super takes place before EoZ... Ugh...

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Taking the issue in logical way, I'd expect the show to pick up after Majin Buu saga( just as it was already revealed) featuring Uub's birth, to have some episodes after Resurrection "F" and continuing with Goku's departure along with Uub, their training and finally presenting the new villain(s).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SMKirbyZX » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:20 pm

Oh man, I can't wait for the info! Since it's visuals, maybe it's some screenshots or something? Still, I'm excited. :D

As for where it takes place, I prefer before EoZ because:
1. We might actually get to see the different universes somehow.
2. It's better to have the EoZ left to interpretations (if you understand what I'm saying). I don't think we need to see what happens after, since we already have that DB online stuff about the future.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by B » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:24 pm

SMKirbyZX wrote:Oh man, I can't wait for the info! Since it's visuals, maybe it's some screenshots or something?
Basically, a poster. Think of any of the posters from the first 13 movies, or Buu arc-Kai's main image of Super Saiyan Goku.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SMKirbyZX » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:31 pm

B wrote:
SMKirbyZX wrote:Oh man, I can't wait for the info! Since it's visuals, maybe it's some screenshots or something?
Basically, a poster. Think of any of the posters from the first 13 movies, or Buu arc-Kai's main image of Super Saiyan Goku.
Thank you. Now I'm more excited!
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:35 pm

Personally, I hope it's set after F, but if it isn't, that's just the way it is. I just don't want to see them all old. And that is how Toriyama Sensei described them.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:37 pm

Just one look to Goten and Trunks and we can tell the timeline right away.
Forever kids = Before EOZ
Finally older = After EOZ

Like expected, next week gonna rock.
E3 + Super = Super week.

Now, its finally time for me to get hyped.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:39 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:Vegeta is nearly 50
Please.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but don't say Vegeta looked old. He looked the exact same as before except with different clothes.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:47 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Like expected, next week gonna rock.
E3 + Super = Super week.
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:48 pm

Woah, Hakaba Kitarou Episode #1 is incredible. Series Director Chioka Kimitoshi was the enshutsu (episode director) alongside Hatano Kouhei, who also provided the storyboard. Animation Supervisor Kudo Hidemi did some incredible things with the character designs from Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The storyboard was really atmospheric, too. I hope Hatano Kouhei can work on Dragon Balll Super. If this is Chioka unrestricted then this new series should look fantastic. Screen captures don't do it any justice, but give them a look.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:49 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:Vegeta is nearly 50
Please.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but don't say Vegeta looked old. He looked the exact same as before except with different clothes.

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Age wise, he's still nearly 50. The others look their age, especially the humans. You have your opinion, I have mine.
JulieYBM wrote:Woah, Hakaba Kitarou Episode #1 is incredible. Series Director Chioka Kimitoshi was the enshutsu (episode director) alongside Hatano Kouhei, who also provided the storyboard. Animation Supervisor Kudo Hidemi did some incredible things with the character designs from Yamamuro Tadayoshi. The storyboard was really atmospheric, too. I hope Hatano Kouhei can work on Dragon Balll Super. If this is Chioka unrestricted then this new series should look fantastic. Screen captures don't do it any justice, but give them a look.
Wow. You're not kidding, it looks amazing!. Who is the animation studio?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:54 pm

Yeah, the Saiyans won't look old for as long as they want. Genes and all that. That doesn't mean I can stand Goten and Trunks not GROWING UP. Seriously. I don't care if its EoZ, Goten and Trunks would be at least 13... even Gohan was shown to have a growth sprout even before that age. They need to look older, that's a must. Show Mai as a teen too if needed but don't leave them as shrimps.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:54 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote: Wow. You're not kidding, it looks amazing!. Who is the animation studio?
Toei Animation. Animator's Corner has the credits up.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:58 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:Age wise, he's still nearly 50. The others look their age, especially the humans. You have your opinion, I have mine.
Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.

Anyway, it's not like they can't tweak the characters designs so that they don't look so old. For example, Kuririn looks older in the Buu Arc than he does in BOG or F, yet we know that isn't the case. Just give him a new set of clothes and a new haircut and it'll fix a bulk of the problems.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:58 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote: Wow. You're not kidding, it looks amazing!. Who is the animation studio?
Toei Animation. Animator's Corner has the credits up.
Toei? I'm shocked to be honest. Thanks for the info :)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:58 pm

Marco Polo wrote:If Super takes place before EoZ. Ugh...

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Why would you be mad? They can still cover post EoZ, it's a series, not a movie, and then we would have best of both worlds and get to see Ssj2-3 again before they are forever blue.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:03 pm

It will definitely be a low chance of them doing that, but it will be great if they are able to pull Ultimate Blast opening animation for a Dragon Ball Super episode. Since we got a very good series director, I hope that he will let talented key animators do their own storyboard in addition to his, with good frames and compositions.

I know I am late to the reply, JulieYBM, but I've watched Naruto #82 and its animation was wonderfully done. Lots of good key frames and movements. The way Itachi's casting Tsykuyomi on Kakashi was drawn was very good. I've moved on to Naruto Shippuden and the jump in the animation quality was very apparent. I can't put my finger on which episode I watched that had shown how good the director and key animators were, but when Uchiha Madara was revived and went straight to the battlefield just before his confrontation against five Kages, the fight scenes was very smooth and fluid. The episode when his Complete Susano'o was shown off to the Kages was also done pretty well too.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:04 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:Age wise, he's still nearly 50. The others look their age, especially the humans. You have your opinion, I have mine.
Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.

Anyway, it's not like they can't tweak the characters designs so that they don't look so old. For example, Kuririn looks older in the Buu Arc than he does in BOG or F, yet we know that isn't the case. Just give him a new set of clothes and a new haircut and it'll fix a bulk of the problems.
Well, seeing as the majority want a more grown up Goten and Trunks, I don't see any reason why they just can't have them grow up a bit, then it's job done for the most part.

To be honest, I do think it will go to the end of the manga anyhow. In my opinion, I don't necessarily like it, but I'm sure if Toriyama Sensei has come up with the Story, then it will still entertain me.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cold Skin » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:11 pm

I'm fine either way, but of course it would make sense to keep going with the timeline and team of the new story (meaning the new movies).
The epilogue is just what an epilogue is: a bonus after the final chapter that you were theoratically not even supposed to know about in the first place and that is just there as a parting gift, just to have "one last glimpse" as Toriyama says in the manga. It is not the start of anything we're supposed to see, it is already WAY beyond the end we're supposed to see.

The maximum potential is before that. With a numerous, youthful and active team.
And of course Goten and Trunks won't have grown up, they are the "cute kids" elements of the cast that kid viewers can relate to and adore, they can be allowed to grow up only once Pan can take over as the "cute kid" element of the team of warriors, and for that she must be at least epilogue-sized.

Anyway, I said I wouldn't come to this section when the episodes air, but if it's shown that it's before the epilogue, Sunday will be the first day I never come back to the Super section.
Don't want to see all the unnecessary meltdown for a decision that ultimately makes perfect sense to have a charismatic team of heroes in exciting adventures, just like the excellent recent movies.
During the whole course of this new show, I will not let my excitement and enthusiasm be tainted by major whining all around (which automatically happens with anything these days).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:12 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.
This 100% :thumbup: Saying that Vegeta and Goku are old at the EoZ goes plain up against the stated facts from both the manga and the anime.

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