"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Lord Beerus]

By Kagari from NeoGaf

Fuji TV preview for 81, nothing groundbreaking but here it is: In the final round of the Zen Exhibition Match, Goku competes against Universe 9's Bergamo, who exposes Goku and curses him as a bad guy for risking universal annihilation. With an awful mood in the air, Goku's match finally begins.

I really love the fact that there trying to spin this into being Goku's fault. Ignoring that fact that Zeno planned to destroy eight universes before the conception of the multiverse tournament and Goku actually unintentionally gave several universes a lifeline.

[Hellspawn28]

I wonder if U7 does win, I think Goku will probably allow one universe to be restore. I doubt U7 will win and just wish back everything. That would be too easy if you ask me. They will probably wish back U6 since it won't surprise me if U6 loses to another powerful Universe like U11.

[DBSQA]

How likely is it that 17 is going to become ridiculously op this arc. I keep seeing merch of him that makes him look like he is top tier. Heroes is going especially hard with this. God tier 17 here we come.

If 17 becomes ridiculously op, all toriyama has to do is claim that 17 has been doing some offscreen training.

[DBSQA]

I wonder if U7 does win, I think Goku will probably allow one universe to be restore. I doubt U7 will win and just wish back everything. That would be too easy if you ask me. They will probably wish back U6 since it won't surprise me if U6 loses to another powerful Universe like U11.

Maybe he will only wish back the universes that has mostly good people living in it, while the universes that mostly has bad people living in it get destoryed.

[Pantheon]

There would be no point in using the super dragon balls to wish back the destroyed universes because Zeno was going to destroy them regardless of the tournament. If they brought the universe back Zeno would probably just destroy them again.
The only answer i can come up with that would work around that is merging all the universes that compete at the tournament into one super universe. Now i'm no math guy but wouldn't the merged universe have a higher average and thus be deemed safe?

[DBSQA]

There would be no point in using the super dragon balls to wish back the destroyed universes because Zeno was going to destroy them regardless of the tournament. If they brought the universe back Zeno would probably just destroy them again.
The only answer i can come up with that would work around that is merging all the universes that compete at the tournament into one super universe. Now i'm no math guy but wouldn't the merged universe have a higher average and thus be deemed safe?

I thought destroying the weaker planets brought the universe average up, not merging.

[Simere]

There would be no point in using the super dragon balls to wish back the destroyed universes because Zeno was going to destroy them regardless of the tournament. If they brought the universe back Zeno would probably just destroy them again.
The only answer i can come up with that would work around that is merging all the universes that compete at the tournament into one super universe. Now i'm no math guy but wouldn't the merged universe have a higher average and thus be deemed safe?

Merging all the weaker universes would make the new universe's average higher than any of the individually lowest average but not higher than the highest individual average. And the highest individually already isn't enough, so that wouldn't help anything.

[Majin Jator]

I wonder if U7 does win, I think Goku will probably allow one universe to be restore. I doubt U7 will win and just wish back everything. That would be too easy if you ask me. They will probably wish back U6 since it won't surprise me if U6 loses to another powerful Universe like U11.

Yeah, I don't see them getting rid of Champa and Cabba. If they're forbidden to restore the universes, they can still move Planet Salad to U7 (giving us saiyans again, although the boring, non-tailed kind) and resurrecting Champa and having him living with his brother (hilarity ensues).

I'm ok with the rest of the universes getting destroyed since we still have four more to develop stories (A clever move, in my oinion).

[namekiansaiyan]

How likely is it that 17 is going to become ridiculously op this arc. I keep seeing merch of him that makes him look like he is top tier. Heroes is going especially hard with this. God tier 17 here we come.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

[Pantheon]

There would be no point in using the super dragon balls to wish back the destroyed universes because Zeno was going to destroy them regardless of the tournament. If they brought the universe back Zeno would probably just destroy them again.
The only answer i can come up with that would work around that is merging all the universes that compete at the tournament into one super universe. Now i'm no math guy but wouldn't the merged universe have a higher average and thus be deemed safe?

Merging all the weaker universes would make the new universe's average higher than any of the individually lowest average but not higher than the highest individual average. And the highest individually already isn't enough, so that wouldn't help anything.

Damn, I still think the merge still might happen but the average will probably just not factor into it. Maybe Zeno can only destroy universe because they are a contained space but might not be able to destroy the individual parts that make up the super universe so he'll just leave it.

[ChronoTwigger]

The super dragon balls will be used for something that will happen in the tournament and we don't know already. Restoring universes against Zeno will is something that could be very very dangerous... (anyway at this point I think nothing will be destroyed...)

[DBSQA]

How likely is it that 17 is going to become ridiculously op this arc. I keep seeing merch of him that makes him look like he is top tier. Heroes is going especially hard with this. God tier 17 here we come.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

[namekiansaiyan]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

How likely is it that 17 is going to become ridiculously op this arc. I keep seeing merch of him that makes him look like he is top tier. Heroes is going especially hard with this. God tier 17 here we come.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

[Totamo]

The super dragon balls will be used for something that will happen in the tournament and we don't know already. Restoring universes against Zeno will is something that could be very very dangerous... (anyway at this point I think nothing will be destroyed...)

I think you are right
But I'm ok with it, I'm all about the journey not the destination

[Pantheon]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

I mean he's never trained a day in his life and is stronger than Freeza. Maybe he trained for 4 months at some point and he's Goku level

[DBSQA]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

I guess we would just have to watch episode 83 when it airs since we wouldn't know what 17 has been doing. If he does end up being stronger than those three they would probably explain how he got that strong or not 17 seems kind of anti-social

[Kagari]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

Why would Toriyama make 17 so powerful and not the others and wouldn't 18 also be just as strong?

He is probably getting promoted because he is returning and that is it. He is not Future Trunks.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

I wouldn't be surprised to see every character get something at least.

[DBSQA]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

I mean he's never trained a day in his life and is stronger than Freeza. Maybe he trained for 4 months at some point and he's Goku level

17 is a cyborg, so dr.gero probably made him stronger than freeza. He did not have to train at all. Didn't Dr.Gero say he was spying on the z fighters to collect data? I think he watched their fight on namek.

[namekiansaiyan]

1 and 12 are twin Universe and so are 5 and 8 and they have the highest average levels so why does Universe 9 have a much lower one than Universe 4? I think we will find out why during the tournament and Universe 7 will face Universe 4 probably in the quarter-finals.

18 has not being training because she is a stay at home mom. We don't know if 17 has been training, if he did he would be stronger than 18.(Androids can get stronger according to toriyama) But unlikely considering that he has 3 children, a job, and a wife. He has more children than 18 to worry about.

I am not going to accept that he has been training and got stronger while others like Piccolo, Krillin and Tien get nothing. It wouldn't be fair.

I mean he's never trained a day in his life and is stronger than Freeza. Maybe he trained for 4 months at some point and he's Goku level

If that happens I will become the next person to achieve Super Saiyan Rage.

[MrBlackFox]

They should have bring Arale at the tournament with U7 team, would have been an awesome help to save their Universe she's insanely powerful