"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:49 am

SansrivaaL wrote:All I'm sure about, is that none of us will be able to conclude an accurate theory on how this'll end, just like back in Black arc, expect the unexpected, who the hell woulda guessed that FT timeline would go boom like that haha.
I'm invested on the idea that the grand priest is definitely into something.
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First there is more to this arc than just this tournament
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:06 am

WittyUsername wrote:At this point, I'm certainly banking on the fan-theory that the Daishinkan is the true villain of this arc, and that the Zeno's are simply being manipulated by him. There's definitely something shady about the guy. I just hope he doesn't end up being a rehash of Zamasu.
Do you mind if I ask why? We literally saw the Zeno's flicking planets to their destruction for shits and giggles.
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Post by Neon Z » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:44 am

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WittyUsername wrote:At this point, I'm certainly banking on the fan-theory that the Daishinkan is the true villain of this arc, and that the Zeno's are simply being manipulated by him. There's definitely something shady about the guy. I just hope he doesn't end up being a rehash of Zamasu.
Do you mind if I ask why? We literally saw the Zeno's flicking planets to their destruction for shits and giggles.
But that's it. It was for giggles. Zen-o really doesn't seem like someone who'd care about keeping the average rating of the universes up or anything like that. The idea really seems like it came from the Grand Priest in the first place.

The complete lack of caring about anyone else that the Angels are showing now also seems like set up for them as antagonists.
precita wrote:I think it would be funny if Zeno destroys Universe 9 directly after the exhibition tournament ends. I know they said they wouldn't, but who knows, maybe they're lying?

Besides if these 3 wolves are the best Universe 9 has to offer, there's not going to be much difference for them when the real tournament ends. I wonder if them making their Kai so cocky and antagonistic is because they're going to be wiped out soon. A bit of a shame for the God of destruction who has barely gotten any screentime so far though.
That was a possibility before, but now with the removal of 4 universes, it'd mess with the tournament's bracket.

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Post by TheMikado » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:16 am

Thought here, but how does the twin universe theory still apply????

Originally there were 18. Did Zen'o just happen to wipe out 6 twin universes?

Further which certain universes being excluded, what would happen if its twin is erased? Does this twin universe concept even still apply or was its just early BS before they fully fleshed out the concepts?

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Post by Neon Z » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:22 am

It could have been 3 pairs of twin universes or a set of third twins of all leftover universes. Either way, the numbers must have been changed afterwards. And, yes, obviously if an universe is destroyed now there'll be no twin for it.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:43 am

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:At this point, I'm certainly banking on the fan-theory that the Daishinkan is the true villain of this arc, and that the Zeno's are simply being manipulated by him. There's definitely something shady about the guy. I just hope he doesn't end up being a rehash of Zamasu.
Do you mind if I ask why? We literally saw the Zeno's flicking planets to their destruction for shits and giggles.
But that's it. It was for giggles. Zen-o really doesn't seem like someone who'd care about keeping the average rating of the universes up or anything like that. The idea really seems like it came from the Grand Priest in the first place.

The complete lack of caring about anyone else that the Angels are showing now also seems like set up for them as antagonists.
precita wrote:I think it would be funny if Zeno destroys Universe 9 directly after the exhibition tournament ends. I know they said they wouldn't, but who knows, maybe they're lying?

Besides if these 3 wolves are the best Universe 9 has to offer, there's not going to be much difference for them when the real tournament ends. I wonder if them making their Kai so cocky and antagonistic is because they're going to be wiped out soon. A bit of a shame for the God of destruction who has barely gotten any screentime so far though.
That was a possibility before, but now with the removal of 4 universes, it'd mess with the tournament's bracket.
Fwiw I'm sure the grand priest has a lot to do with it. I just also think Zeno isnt against it at all. Its not Zeno being manipulated to me but more like the President giving his okay to a military proceedure or something devised by his own advisor.
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Post by Alruneia » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:55 am

TheMikado wrote:Thought here, but how does the twin universe theory still apply????

Originally there were 18. Did Zen'o just happen to wipe out 6 twin universes?

Further which certain universes being excluded, what would happen if its twin is erased? Does this twin universe concept even still apply or was its just early BS before they fully fleshed out the concepts?
He probably deleted three twin universes. The fact that Universes 1, 5, 8 and 12 (Twin Universes 1 and 5) are exempt from this tournament makes me think so.
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Post by TheMathemagician » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:11 am

SansrivaaL wrote:All I'm sure about, is that none of us will be able to conclude an accurate theory on how this'll end, just like back in Black arc, expect the unexpected, who the hell woulda guessed that FT timeline would go boom like that haha.
I'm invested on the idea that the grand priest is definitely into something.
Plot twist, both Zen'os are really the ones pulling the strings but make it seem like Daishinkan is running the show.
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Post by Legion » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:39 am

Maybe Zeno is not so retarded like people thinks. Grand Priest is neither good or evil, he just gives 0 fucks imo.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:24 am

TheMikado wrote:Thought here, but how does the twin universe theory still apply????

Originally there were 18. Did Zen'o just happen to wipe out 6 twin universes?

Further which certain universes being excluded, what would happen if its twin is erased? Does this twin universe concept even still apply or was its just early BS before they fully fleshed out the concepts?
They were most likely triplet universe. If it's twin is erased, nothing would happen. They're not tied with each other, other than having same species.
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Post by Noah » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:36 am

Fuji TV preview for 81, nothing groundbreaking but here it is: In the final round of the Zen Exhibition Match, Goku competes against Universe 9's Bergamo, who exposes Goku and curses him as a bad guy for risking universal annihilation. With an awful mood in the air, Goku's match finally begins.
This is awesome! I can't wait for Goku's reaction with the whole multiverse angry because the shit he did.
Lord Beerus wrote:I really love the fact that there trying to spin this into being Goku's fault. Ignoring that fact that Zeno planned to destroy eight universes before the conception of the multiverse tournament and Goku actually unintentionally gave several universes a lifeline.
I love the fact you ignore that Zeno is guy with a child like mindset, who is easily distracted and impressed by the simplest of things, his plans of destruction could be something that could have been passed many times over. He also spoke to Goku about a tournament, and then forgot about it. Beerus warned him to not do it, it is objectively Goku's fault.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if U7 does win, I think Goku will probably allow one universe to be restore. I doubt U7 will win and just wish back everything. That would be too easy if you ask me. They will probably wish back U6 since it won't surprise me if U6 loses to another powerful Universe like U11.
Well, some were especulating that the winner of the Tournament of Power may wish to restore the erased universes by Zeno, but now knowing that this tournament is just an excuse for he to destroy these low evaluated universes, then could this action possibly angers him? In the end all meant nothing if the winner decided to undo the King Of All actions.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:42 am

Noah wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I really love the fact that there trying to spin this into being Goku's fault. Ignoring that fact that Zeno planned to destroy eight universes before the conception of the multiverse tournament and Goku actually unintentionally gave several universes a lifeline.
I love the fact you ignore that Zeno is guy with a child like mindset, who is easily distracted and impressed by the simplest of things, his plans of destruction could be something that could have been passed many times over. He also spoke to Goku about a tournament, and then forgot about it. Beerus warned him to not do it, it is objectively Goku's fault.
Assuming that Zeno would forget about wanting to destroy eight universes is the biggest "what-if" scenario you can conjure up. When Zeno wants to do something, he freaking does it. That's why there are six less universes. Hell, he brought up the fact there are too many universes to begin with. So this has certainly been something on his mind for quite a while.

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Post by Simere » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:18 pm

Zeno forgot one thing one time and all of a sudden it's his entire character that he forgets everything.
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Post by HeroR » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:37 pm

Simere wrote:Zeno forgot one thing one time and all of a sudden he it's his entire character that he forgets everything.
That is how the internet works. Gowasu makes one joke about Godtube, now that is what he's known for along with tea.
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Post by KaiserAcedia » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:03 pm

Actually with their universes at stake, will the hakaishins make a move? Wouldn't you try to obliterate(hakai) every strong warrior in the other universes and try to protect/hide your strongest fighters? Could lead to a huge advantage.

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Post by emperior » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:17 pm

KaiserAcedia wrote:Actually with their universes at stake, will the hakaishins make a move? Wouldn't you try to obliterate(hakai) every strong warrior in the other universes and try to protect/hide your strongest fighters? Could lead to a huge advantage.
They would be obliterated immediately by Zeno if they tried such stunts. Though I expect losing universes' Hakaishins to try and rebel against Zeno. The Daishinkan will just kill them all at once with class, to show us some of his power.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:54 pm

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I'm still waiting for the day Super commits to a tense atmosphere for more than fifteen minutes at a time.
Episode 66.
The Black had a few episodes with a pretty tense atmosphere, #66 as you said but #61 I would say was the most tense, perhaps my favourite episode out of all the series so far, the latter half of #56 aswell was also pretty tense too.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:13 pm

HeroR wrote:
Simere wrote:Zeno forgot one thing one time and all of a sudden he it's his entire character that he forgets everything.
That is how the internet works. Gowasu makes one joke about Godtube, now that is what he's known for along with tea.
To be fair, that's probably the most memorable and unique thing about him.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:06 pm

kinisking wrote:
HeroR wrote: That is how the internet works. Gowasu makes one joke about Godtube, now that is what he's known for along with tea.
To be fair, that's probably the most memorable and unique thing about him.
Yeah with that joke, Gowasu easily became the most likeable Kaioshin. There's still his tea and "Zamasu" too.
I'm expecting he has more jokes about that and maybe they bring kamibook too.

I never found the Kaioshins interesting characters so Gowasu and Zamasu stood out greatly from the rest, in a good way.
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Post by WittyUsername » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:49 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Neon Z wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Do you mind if I ask why? We literally saw the Zeno's flicking planets to their destruction for shits and giggles.
But that's it. It was for giggles. Zen-o really doesn't seem like someone who'd care about keeping the average rating of the universes up or anything like that. The idea really seems like it came from the Grand Priest in the first place.

The complete lack of caring about anyone else that the Angels are showing now also seems like set up for them as antagonists.
precita wrote:I think it would be funny if Zeno destroys Universe 9 directly after the exhibition tournament ends. I know they said they wouldn't, but who knows, maybe they're lying?

Besides if these 3 wolves are the best Universe 9 has to offer, there's not going to be much difference for them when the real tournament ends. I wonder if them making their Kai so cocky and antagonistic is because they're going to be wiped out soon. A bit of a shame for the God of destruction who has barely gotten any screentime so far though.
That was a possibility before, but now with the removal of 4 universes, it'd mess with the tournament's bracket.
Fwiw I'm sure the grand priest has a lot to do with it. I just also think Zeno isnt against it at all. Its not Zeno being manipulated to me but more like the President giving his okay to a military proceedure or something devised by his own advisor.
I never said that Zeno would necessarily be against destroying the universes (although doing so would mean that he wouldn't be able to watch another fun tournament like that again), all I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if the whole plan to destroy the weaker universes is really the Daishinkan's plan, and that Zeno has no real clue what's going on, what with him having the mind of a toddler.

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