Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:04 am

If you're going to power him up enough to be a threat to Gohan, then there's no point in taking away the SS forms in the first place.
Well I wouldn't be shocked if SSG appeared instead of regular SSJ. I'm pretty damn sure we'll see some form of SSJ. It's Freeza. He's sure to mention the SSJ legend.

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Post by Chuquita » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:47 am

I was concerned about the opposite. I worried I wouldn't get to see ssjg Gokû at all and he'd just be using ssj1 and base. I'm not so much worried now that I've seen that hint of magenta light shining on his hair on the 「F」 poster.
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Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:40 am

I wonder if they'll make Frieza stronger than Beerus was in Battle of Gods. That's usually the trend that the next villain is the strongest yet but the last movie was different in that the heroes didn't surpass the villain thus requiring the next villain to be stronger still, in fact Goku was significantly weaker than him.

So if Goku is a 6 and Beerus is a 10 then maybe Frieza could be an 8.

He surely can't be more powerful than Whis because this time around the heroes will almost certainly beat him at the end and unless we get a Super Saiyan God Vegito I can't them progressing that much.

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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:48 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:What I don't get though is this hair-trigger response of 'Worst thing ever!'. We know only a little bit about what this movie is going to entail so far, and yet right away there are people flinging criticism right out of the gate. Rather than give Toriyama the chance to possibly impress you, you just automatically start pointing out his previous follies, and dismiss the entire idea as stupid, as if there's no possible way it could work. Perhaps this is just a different opinion, but for me, there are no bad ideas, just poor execution.


People are quick to judge yes, but the disturbance comes from the anxiety towards the theme of redundancy reusing a character like Freeza off the whim of nothing really progressing the lore.

There are few things this set up could finally clean up which I'd support.
- Vegeta being the one to finally kill him; and in his reformed state of mind since Namek.
- Goku is out of the picture for a while to give Vegeta some room. Then returns to close it up. (Similar to BoG)
- The possibility of Freeza opening the door to a new threat they would need to train for in general from where his power came from.
- Freeza becomes a god of some sort and not still lingering off a loss he had long expired in relevance.

But those are slim and vague. The issue people have is the higher likelyhood that these concepts wont happen. It was also said that Vegeta wasnt going to lead this movie after all if I remember correctly someone said... so that makes this rematch even more pointless. Goku at SSJ1 again going to beat him again?
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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:19 am

MajinAsura wrote:
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Nightstar1994 wrote:Glad to see him back.
Really?
Quit hating on Freeza, for all you know, this could be the best movie ever.

You're misunderstanding me, I don't hate him, I especially see him the 3rd best villain in the series, but I don't like the fact he's brought back again.
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Post by obiwan23s » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:19 am

Really exited for this movie. My only hope for it is that it doesn't cheapen the events of the Namek saga, which I think has the best story/plot in Dragon Ball. Other than that, I'm totally on board. Hopefully new Freeza material will inspire Nakao to deliver a better performance than he did in Kai...been a while since I saw Kai in Japanese, but I seem to remember the TV performance being a lot better.

It's really great that they are making DB relevant again with these movies. Watching Battle of Gods for the first time definitely took me back in time in a big way. Looking forward to experiencing that feeling again.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:43 am

Now I see that fanart with Freeza's new form. He definitely looks like a pavian monkey.(he look terrible) I think I already know would would happen if that would be the new form. Freeza will humiliate everyone, but at certain point he will observ his appearance in a mirror and will self-destruct himself, after realizing that he greatly resembles to Saiyans. :lol:
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:07 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Ultimate Gohan doesn't need a Super Saiyan state... neither does Godku, for that matter.
I think that Goku does need Super Saiyan, a little. He fought better against Beerus as a Super Saiyan, and Toriyama said that SS2, SS3, and SSGod aren't needed anymore.
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Post by Saiga » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:24 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Ultimate Gohan doesn't need a Super Saiyan state... neither does Godku, for that matter.
I think that Goku does need Super Saiyan, a little. He fought better against Beerus as a Super Saiyan, and Toriyama said that SS2, SS3, and SSGod aren't needed anymore.
Not against someone like Freeza, though.

RandomGuy's argument was that neutralising Super Saiyan wouldn't do much at this point unless someone was already strong enough for that not to matter.
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Post by hleV » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:44 am

Chuquita wrote:I was concerned about the opposite. I worried I wouldn't get to see ssjg Gokû at all and he'd just be using ssj1 and base. I'm not so much worried now that I've seen that hint of magenta light shining on his hair on the 「F」 poster.
I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but in the poster, Goku is definitely not in the SSG form.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:49 am

I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:54 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
We problably won't, Toriyama confirmed in an interview that Goku doesn't need to go SSJ-God, becuase he can use its power in base and Super Saiyan.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:07 am

Low Tone G wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
We problably won't, Toriyama confirmed in an interview that Goku doesn't need to go SSJ-God, becuase he can use its power in base and Super Saiyan.
What interview was that?

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Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:13 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
B-But he looks so much better in SSJG than in his other forms...

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Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:35 am

Doctor. wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
B-But he looks so much better in SSJG than in his other forms...
^Agreed. I enjoyed his red hair and eyes along with the slimmer look.
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Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:39 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
We problably won't, Toriyama confirmed in an interview that Goku doesn't need to go SSJ-God, becuase he can use its power in base and Super Saiyan.
What interview was that?
He didn't say that specifically. This was the interview I think Low Tone G is referring to:

Q.: Goku endlessly keeps getting stronger, with Super Saiyan 3 in the manga and Super Saiyan 4 in the anime; does Super Saiyan keep getting limitlessly stronger too? Might we eventually see things such as a Super Saiyan 5…?

A.: Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:45 am

ChahikoDBZ wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
B-But he looks so much better in SSJG than in his other forms...
^Agreed. I enjoyed his red hair and eyes along with the slimmer look.
I'd like it better if it were red, but it's more pink than red. It'd be funny if Vegeta becomes SSJG and gets blue hair, and Goku gets mad that his was pink.

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Post by Low Tone G » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:47 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:I'd be happy if Goku has absorbed his God power and can use it in any form, and we never see the pink hair and eyes again.
We problably won't, Toriyama confirmed in an interview that Goku doesn't need to go SSJ-God, becuase he can use its power in base and Super Saiyan.
What interview was that?

Here you Go:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/
Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.
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Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:50 am

Well it was a bit of both pink and red. Magneta basically. Either way it looked pretty cool in my opinion. From the looks of it Vegeta will likely have blue hair in his God form.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:51 am

Low Tone G wrote:Here you Go:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -toriyama/
Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out.
Awesome, no more pink hair. I enjoyed BoG, but the pink hair did make me cringe.

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