"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[DBZ_Lee]

Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.

This 100% Saying that Vegeta and Goku are old at the EoZ goes plain up against the stated facts from both the manga and the anime.

Age wise Vegeta is old. That was what I said. Nothing more. I know you want to justify this, as you want it to go EoZ, I'm looking at it from a neutral perspective.
But what TheDevilsCorpse said about Krillin, I totally agree with.

[JulieYBM]

It will definitely be a low chance of them doing that, but it will be great if they are able to pull Ultimate Blast opening animation for a Dragon Ball Super episode. Since we got a very good series director, I hope that he will let talented key animators do their own storyboard in addition to his, with good frames and compositions.

I know I am late to the reply, JulieYBM, but I've watched Naruto #82 and its animation was wonderfully done. Lots of good key frames and movements. The way Itachi's casting Tsykuyomi on Kakashi was drawn was very good. I've moved on to Naruto Shippuden and the jump in the animation quality was very apparent. I can't put my finger on which episode I watched that had shown how good the director and key animators were, but when Uchiha Madara was revived and went straight to the battlefield just before his confrontation against five Kages, the fight scenes was very smooth and fluid. The episode when his Complete Susano'o was shown off to the Kages was also done pretty well too.

Ultimate Blast has Tate Naoki, Ootsuka Ken, Oonishi Ryou, Shida Naotoshi and Kurita Shin'ichi work on the animation, so it's no surprise it looked so good. With any luck Ootsuka will abandon Saint Seiya: Soul of Gold for Dragon Ball Super.

Naruto Episode #82 has Kujo Rion directing a storyboard from Niidome Toshiya. Both are some of the strongest staff members for the first series so it isn't a surprise there were a lot of little details precisely executed.

The Naruto Shippuuden episode with Madara is probably Episode #322. It was Yamashita Hiroyuki's debut as an episode director. He was also the storyboard artist, animation supervisor and a key animator. Kobayashi Naoki did the most incredible parts of the episode.

[Captain Space]

Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.

This 100% Saying that Vegeta and Goku are old at the EoZ goes plain up against the stated facts from both the manga and the anime.

The penultimate chapter of the manga explicitly, in the first page introducing all the characters' new looks, writes "no change" for Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo.

[DBZ_Lee]

Age is but a number to Saiyans for most of their life. We have all the tidbits on Saiyan aging, as well as Bluma outright saying Goku and Vegeta never change while yelling at the former for saying she looks old. Both Vegeta and Goku are still physically in their 20s.

This 100% Saying that Vegeta and Goku are old at the EoZ goes plain up against the stated facts from both the manga and the anime.

The penultimate chapter of the manga explicitly, in the first page introducing all the characters' new looks, writes "no change" for Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo.

I never said that any of those characters looked old. I said Age wise Vegeta was old. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

[Lord Beerus]

Oh I can see all the outcry and complaining already, but on a serious note I am HOPING that we see Uub. That will show us when the series takes place and to be honest, that's all I want to know right now.

I really hope Oob appears in Dragon Ball Super, as well. He's been shafted for so long and I have feeling this may be his last chance to truly shine. He deserves to have at least one big moment.

[SansrivaaL]

Hopefully all the questions about post EoZ or not will be answered when the cover is out. I honestly dont care when it takes place, as long as I get to watch more DB series its a GO! besides post FnF doesnt sound bad at all.

[Cold Skin]

^ Absolutely. Even though I have a preference for things being set before the epilogue, it will absolutely not rub me the wrong way if it's set after the epilogue and it won't have any negative impact on my enjoyment of the new show.

[Captain Space]

I never said that any of those characters looked old. I said Age wise Vegeta was old. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

Fair enough, sorry.

[DBZ_Lee]

^ Absolutely. Even though I have a preference for things being set before the epilogue, it will absolutely not rub me the wrong way if it's set after the epilogue and it won't have any negative impact on my enjoyment of the new show.

Same for me, I am looking forward to the Series, and am sure I will enjoy it, irrespect of where it takes place on the timeline.

I never said that any of those characters looked old. I said Age wise Vegeta was old. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

Fair enough, sorry.

No problem whatsoever, it was a misunderstanding

[Basaku]

DB was always about moving forward tho, the progression and character growth (mental and physical) have been big part of the show and one of the reasons for its huge success

[soulnova]

DB was always about moving forward tho, the progression and character growth (mental and physical) have been big part of the show and one of the reasons for its huge success

Yep, I believe so too. For the most part of Z the group either waited for the arrival of enemies, the enemies were delayed or distracted, people waited for others... even time travel was the major plot point for a 1/3rd of the story.

The passage of TIME is one of the prominent themes in Dragon Ball.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I do like the idea around of starting pre EoZ and then making it's way to post EoZ.

[Doctor.]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

[fadeddreams5]

The outcry if it's revealed to take place before EoZ will be as glorious as when Golden Frieza was revealed. >.>

[Lord Beerus]

I do like the idea around of starting pre EoZ and then making it's way to post EoZ.

That's how I imagine Dragon Ball Super progressing. There is as much of a story to tell before EOZ as there is after EOZ.

[SansrivaaL]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

You mean like Conan/Doraemon/Shinchan? and do you only want Goku to be removed?

[dbzfan7]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

Well Goku pretty much is Ash Ketchum at this point...

[Doctor.]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

You mean like Conan/Doraemon/Shinchan? and do you only want Goku to be removed?

I don't know how those franchises operate, so I don't know. No, I'm talking about the entire main cast. If Super goes on for quite awhile, I'll be sad just to see the exact same characters getting the spotlight.

I'd want this to become a franchise similar to JJBA if Super is not going to be the last product. If it is and no more series will be made in the future, then keep Goku & co around all you want.

[fadeddreams5]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

I don't feel they should give Goku the boot entirely. His role just needs to change. With Uub, we can meet Goku the teacher! Meanwhile, Uub can have a co-star role. The interaction between the two has potential. For example, I don't see Uub being like he is in GT, where he's sparring with Goku, just goes along with it, and becomes a generic Z-warrior. For the start of the series (or 2nd season if it's pre-EoZ at first), I'd personally love to see him as a bit incompetent as far as fighting goes, despite his ridiculous inner strength. Like, despite Goku taking him in after realizing he can't fly, Uub still hasn't learned to fly! That in itself can be a running joke for a while if he finds himself alone with 4 year old Pan, who can run circles around the world. The way I envision Uub is sort of like Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo; awkward and unassuming. On the other hand, Goku has this tremendous confidence in the boy's abilities, so he puts him in ridiculous "training" situations that result in the lulz.

I'd just love a mini-"Uub arc", akin to the Great Saiyaman one, before moving onto a major saga. It'd allow us to become familiar with the character enough to want him on-screen later on, and in a sense, he can act like the audience's lens into the DBZ world since he doesn't really know any of the cast, has lived in a remote area all his life, and is just starting his new life thanks to Goku, which involves school, family obligations, and training with Sensei Goku-san. Goten and Trunks can be his seniors in school. Gohan, a teacher. I'd love this so much.

[Basaku]

I just want them to let Goku go already. Yes, he's the main character, but that doesn't matter. If they intend to make Dragon Ball a long-running series that goes on for decades without an end, either reboot it or get a new protagonist before it becomes the new Pokémon, with a never-aging protagonist who doesn't change or learn from his mistakes.

I don't feel they should give Goku the boot entirely. His role just needs to change. With Uub, we can meet Goku the teacher! Meanwhile, Uub can have a co-star role. The interaction between the two has potential. For example, I don't see Uub being like he is in GT, where he's sparring with Goku, just goes along with it, and becomes a generic Z-warrior. For the start of the series (or 2nd season if it's pre-EoZ at first), I'd personally love to see him as a bit incompetent as far as fighting goes, despite his ridiculous inner strength. Like, despite Goku taking him in after realizing he can't fly, Uub still hasn't learned to fly! That in itself can be a running joke for a while if he finds himself alone with 4 year old Pan, who can run circles around the world. The way I envision Uub is sort of like Tenchi from Tenchi Muyo; awkward and unassuming. On the other hand, Goku has this tremendous confidence in the boy's abilities, so he puts him in ridiculous "training" situations that result in the lulz.

I'd just love a mini-"Uub arc", akin to the Great Saiyaman one, before moving onto a major saga. It'd allow us to become familiar with the character enough to want him on-screen later on, and in a sense, he can act like the audience's lens into the DBZ world since he doesn't really know any of the cast, has lived in a remote area all his life, and is just starting his new life thanks to Goku, which involves school, family obligations, and training with Sensei Goku-san. Goten and Trunks can be his seniors in school. Gohan, a teacher. I'd love this so much.

Here's the thing. We've spent tons of time with Gohan before Saiyaman arc. We saw him grew, transform and accomplish a ton. He 'earned' his near-new-lead position, yet Uub would just jump straight into is solely because he's strong? Not that I wouldnt like to see Goku getting a boot, but 'handing' the series to Uub on a siler plate just like that would feel artificial. Gohan? Sure, even Piccolo or Vegeta or Goten/Trunks. Uub needs to develop at least a bit before it happens, we barely know him (going from EOZ)