"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Dbzfan94]

Let's make a poll

Who's the actual villian of this arc?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Or

[spoiler][/spoiler]

The Grand Priest is probably the villain. He's eerie.

They both give off villain vibes. If I didn't know any better, I would've said that shot of Goku is actually Black

[LightBing]

There's no villain in the arc. This whole situation at it's core was caused by the incompetence of the Gods from the less developed Universes. It's like if you didn't study for a class and got flunked by your teacher. Does that make the teacher a villain?

There's no denying that Goku speeded up what was bound to happen but that's the norm by now. Selfish Goku does selfish things. The reason nobody ever called Goku a villain before is because he cleans his own mess(more or less). That's what's going to happen here, Goku plans to win and use the Super Dragon Balls to make up for it.

Does everyone remember Goku pre-Cell Games? He had something in mind and was calm about the dire situation. Everyone should know Goku a bit better by now.

[ekrolo2]

There's no villain in the arc. This whole situation at it's core was caused by the incompetence of the Gods from the less developed Universes. It's like if you didn't study for a class and got flunked by your teacher. Does that make the teacher a villain?

There's no denying that Goku speeded up what was bound to happen but that's the norm by now. Selfish Goku does selfish things. The reason nobody ever called Goku a villain before is because he cleans his own mess(more or less). That's what's going to happen here, Goku plans to win and use the Super Dragon Balls to make up for it.

Does everyone remember Goku pre-Cell Games? He had something in mind and was calm about the dire situation. Everyone should know Goku a bit better by now.

I'm not usually one of those "The Grand Priest is evil!" people but I feel like Zeno doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give a fuck about the development of the multiverse enough to kill the worst ones off. It really does feel like something Grand Priest probably brought up after Goku came around to remind Zeno of the tournament and now they're feeding it to everyone as part of the overall story.

[LightBing]

I'm not usually one of those "The Grand Priest is evil!" people but I feel like Zeno doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give a fuck about the development of the multiverse enough to kill the worst ones off. It really does feel like something Grand Priest probably brought up after Goku came around to remind Zeno of the tournament and now they're feeding it to everyone as part of the overall story.

His appearance in the U6 vs U7 tournament was due to the concern that Beerus and Champa weren't doing their job properly. There's precedent for this situation to be more likely than "Grand Priest the Puppet Master".

[ekrolo2]

I'm not usually one of those "The Grand Priest is evil!" people but I feel like Zeno doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give a fuck about the development of the multiverse enough to kill the worst ones off. It really does feel like something Grand Priest probably brought up after Goku came around to remind Zeno of the tournament and now they're feeding it to everyone as part of the overall story.

His appearance in the U6 vs U7 tournament was due to the concern that Beerus and Champa weren't doing their job properly. There's precedent for this situation to be more likely than "Grand Priest the Puppet Master".

But aren't they always not doing their job? Beerus sleeps all the time which we know isn't something he has to do but chooses to because he's bored and Champa's apparently too lazy to destroy a planet himself.

[LightBing]

But aren't they always not doing their job? Beerus sleeps all the time which we know isn't something he has to do but chooses to because he's bored and Champa's apparently too lazy to destroy a planet himself.

I guess they have it coming then. If your "boss" has proved that he can end you - Universe - has given you fair warning that you're lacking and you still continue your poor job; you deserve it.

[Freeza9000]

I'm not usually one of those "The Grand Priest is evil!" people but I feel like Zeno doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give a fuck about the development of the multiverse enough to kill the worst ones off. It really does feel like something Grand Priest probably brought up after Goku came around to remind Zeno of the tournament and now they're feeding it to everyone as part of the overall story.

His appearance in the U6 vs U7 tournament was due to the concern that Beerus and Champa weren't doing their job properly. There's precedent for this situation to be more likely than "Grand Priest the Puppet Master".

But aren't they always not doing their job? Beerus sleeps all the time which we know isn't something he has to do but chooses to because he's bored and Champa's apparently too lazy to destroy a planet himself.

Not to mention, Sidra is indecisive at destroying anything.

[Neon Z]

He has still had more then at least half of team Universe 7.

Also, where is this assumption that Piccolo is going to do really bad coming from as I only seem to see it on Kanzenshuu.

The rules of the tournament along with Piccolo's skills will make him one of the hardest to knock out the ring.

It's because Piccolo is nowhere in the opening aside from group shots, while even Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan got some highlights. People started talking about it again, since he also wasn't in the new Heroes stuff, even though Kuririn and 18 were.

Super's original opening was very misleading though, with all the screentime it gave to Gohan while they reduced his role in the BoGs arc and after RoF only got a couple of episodes more than a year later when they were about to change the opening.

[namekiansaiyan]

He has still had more then at least half of team Universe 7.

Also, where is this assumption that Piccolo is going to do really bad coming from as I only seem to see it on Kanzenshuu.

The rules of the tournament along with Piccolo's skills will make him one of the hardest to knock out the ring.

It's because Piccolo is nowhere in the opening aside from group shots, while even Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan got some highlights. People started talking about it again, since he also wasn't in the new Heroes stuff, even though Kuririn and 18 were.

Super's original opening was very misleading though, with all the screentime it gave to Gohan while they reduced his role in the BoGs arc and after RoF only got a couple of episodes more than a year later when they were about to change the opening.

Based on that logic, Buu is going to do bad as well. I just don't know how people can think Tien, Roshi, 17, 18 and Krillin are all going to do better than Piccolo.

I can't see any member of team Universe 7 doing bad as they will surely all get some decent screen time.

[Noah]

Any thoughts about this serious look Goku gave to Bergamo after he said he's the enemy of all universes?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Don't know if I can understand but is he offended by what Bergamo said? It's a sign that he may care about something, I mean if he was smiling after that I think it would pretty clear he don't care.

[perucho1990]

But Gohan will have a big role in the tournament, sorry for repeating it.

If the battle royal will really be the only match in the whole Arc, then I could see Gohan being the last man standing.

Dont be surprised if Goku gets eliminated because he was distracted

[kinisking]

But Gohan will have a big role in the tournament, sorry for repeating it.

If the battle royal will really be the only match in the whole Arc, then I could see Gohan being the last man standing.

Dont be surprised if Goku gets eliminated because he was distracted

I'm finally on board with Gohan having a big role now. I think it's safe to say he'll do well at this point. The ones I'm worried for now are 18 and Tien. I think 17 and Krillin well and I know that Goku and Vegeta will do well so I'm not worried for them. I don't care about how well Roshi and Piccolo will do.

[perucho1990]

I'm finally on board with Gohan having a big role now. I think it's safe to say he'll do well at this point. The ones I'm worried for now are 18 and Tien. I think 17 and Krillin well and I know that Goku and Vegeta will do well so I'm not worried for them. I don't care about how well Roshi and Piccolo will do.

In my eyes, Gohan fills the role of ultimate underdog better than Goku, if Goku and Vegeta get eliminated(I expect them to be eliminated via distraction or being tricked), and its up to Gohan to save his team.

Gohan winning the whole thing due of using strategy and being smart would be a memorable moment, more than when he transformed SSJ2 for the first time imo.

17 and Krillin should be fine, specially the former, who was being in the DBH advertisment.

[Beyond]

In my eyes, Gohan fills the role of ultimate underdog better than Goku, if Goku and Vegeta get eliminated(I expect them to be eliminated via distraction or being tricked), and its up to Gohan to save his team.

Gohan winning the whole thing due of using strategy and being smart would be a memorable moment, more than when he transformed SSJ2 for the first time imo.

17 and Krillin should be fine, specially the former, who was being in the DBH advertisment.

Krillin is going be the heart of the team. You'll all be on his side by the end of it.

[kinisking]

In my eyes, Gohan fills the role of ultimate underdog better than Goku, if Goku and Vegeta get eliminated(I expect them to be eliminated via distraction or being tricked), and its up to Gohan to save his team.

Gohan winning the whole thing due of using strategy and being smart would be a memorable moment, more than when he transformed SSJ2 for the first time imo.

17 and Krillin should be fine, specially the former, who was being in the DBH advertisment.

Krillin is going be the heart of the team. You'll all be on his side by the end of it.

Honestly, I highly doubt it. He doesn't really have any leadership qualities at all. It's either going to be Goku, Gohan , Piccolo, Roshi or no one imo.

[Beyond]

In my eyes, Gohan fills the role of ultimate underdog better than Goku, if Goku and Vegeta get eliminated(I expect them to be eliminated via distraction or being tricked), and its up to Gohan to save his team.

Gohan winning the whole thing due of using strategy and being smart would be a memorable moment, more than when he transformed SSJ2 for the first time imo.

17 and Krillin should be fine, specially the former, who was being in the DBH advertisment.

Krillin is going be the heart of the team. You'll all be on his side by the end of it.

Honestly, I highly doubt it. He doesn't really have any leadership qualities at all. It's either going to be Goku, Gohan , Piccolo, Roshi or no one imo.

I didn't mean as leader. I meant he going to have the most heart in the team. It's like bravery. Heart of the team might have been bad phrasing I admit.

[Sandubadear]

If the battle royal will really be the only match in the whole Arc, then I could see Gohan being the last man standing.

>implying that Mr. Satan won't accidentally fall in the ring, hide the whole match, and be the last man after Goku and Bald Guy double-KO themselves

[TheMikado]

Let's make a poll

Who's the actual villian of this arc?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Or

[spoiler][/spoiler]

The Grand Priest is probably the villain. He's eerie.

They both give off villain vibes. If I didn't know any better, I would've said that shot of Goku is actually Black

It was actually the grand priest who turned Zamasu and helped him kill all the God of Destruction in the other timelines. He used the Zamasu situation as the argument that the multiverse should be destroyed and Goku in inadvertently helping him.

[SansrivaaL]

Any thoughts about this serious look Goku gave to Bergamo after he said he's the enemy of all universes?

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Don't know if I can understand but is he offended by what Bergamo said? It's a sign that he may care about something, I mean if he was smiling after that I think it would pretty clear he don't care.

Well not to mention he scowled at that statement, honestly now I think Goku has something up his sleeves already (it may be just the dragon balls) but he is way too calm about all this. I doubt Toei and AT would put Goku in a situation like this to simply remove the poison that they put on some of us back in the days cause this is too much, true Goku has been like this, but he hasnt shown any emotional traits other than "come at me, I'm excited" I'm sure people would get off his back if he sounded and looked even the slightest disappointed by the stakes that got put, so maybe.. just maybe he has something up his sleeves already, like say he wants Zeno to enjoy everything to the fullest and while that would put Zeno in a good mood after the whole power tournament, he asks him "Hey Zeno, you enjoyed our match right? but if you destroy their universes and their fighters as well as GoDs then you wont be able to see us duke it out again, so whatcha say we cancel that little stakes you put and just make another tournament for the future? I'm positive we'll be able to put a better show for you than this" or at least something like that.

[Chuquita]

NewType should be out this week. We already know the episode titles so maybe it'll have summaries this time?