"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Jack Bz]

I definitely like what I have read.

1: I like the fact that the theme of this arc of characters getting stronger by stealing techniques and energy has been addressed by Goku, who notes that those sort of techniques come 2nd to training.

2: saying that Goku tells Moro to "go away train to fight again later" is so so so disingenuous, and people are looking to be get angry. That just isn't the case at all. Goku doesn't give Moro the option of not going to prison, and actually decides to kill him. Goku bringing up training is used to make clear to Moro where he went wrong, and he just voices his disappointment in Moro's methods. Learn to read.

3: I'm pleased that Moro couldn't control Merus' power. Kinda disappointing that it's only ultra instinct they're talking about in regards to what he copied. Angels can do all kind of things, but I guess that would be too insane.

[Matches Malone]

or Whis moving time 3 minutes back before it happens
But such a rehashed ending wouldn't be liked by anyone

Still an in-universe option though.

As if what we're getting now is being liked.

[Femme Fatale Kikaza]

Can you guys count how many chances Moro has gotten at this point? I lost count.

3 at this point.

Why is it that this pure evil monster got three chances and blew all of them, but Goku never tried sparing/giving a chance to Cell? Nobody even tried to spare him and yet Moro, who is now capable of destroying universe 7 as we know it, has been given 3 chances. What the fuck is the writing staff thinking?

Villains who did half the shit Moro did got killed for their troubles and nobody gave them fifty opportunities to change despite blowing them all. Now Moro is the planet....great.

[Kinokima]

This is clearly a fan translation no way did Goku say that last line lol

The line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.

No it doesn’t just went back and read it

[Block88]

Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:

1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.

It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.

Why not have vegeta seperate him

[Lord Beerus]

It seems like to me that this whole scenario with Moro merging with the Earth was set up specifically for Vegeta to use his Spirit Fusion technique.

[Matches Malone]

Why is it that this pure evil monster got three chances and blew all of them, but Goku never tried sparing/giving a chance to Cell? Nobody even tried to spare him and yet Moro, who is now capable of destroying universe 7 as we know it, has been given 3 chances. What the fuck is the writing staff thinking?

Goku would've had better luck with Cell when you think about it.

[SupremeKai25]

This is clearly a fan translation no way did Goku say that last line lol

The line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.

No it doesn’t just went back and read it

Oh? Then what does he say in the official translation? I'm genuinely curious.

Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:

1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.

It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.

Why not have vegeta seperate him

I forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks, so it could be Vegeta.

[Block88]

It seems like to me that this whole scenario with Moro merging with the Earth was set up specifically for Vegeta to use his Spirit Fusion technique.

Pretty lazy honestly

[Matches Malone]

I forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks, so it could be Vegeta.

They can't kill him while he's fused with the planet so Vegeta is more or less a sure thing at this point.

[Kinokima]

The line about Black remains the same in the official VIZ translation.

No it doesn’t just went back and read it

Oh? Then what does he say in the official translation? I'm genuinely curious.

Actually I'm not sure why this is supposed to be such a tense or dramatic moment. The solution is so simple:

1) Fly to space;
2) Destroy the Earth with one ki blast;
3) Gather the Namekian Dragon Balls and wish everyone back except Moro.

It really isn't hard to find a way out of this mess... Even if they have to wait some time, the solution is clear, it's not like it's a hopeless or utterly bleak scenario.

Why not have vegeta seperate him

I forgot about Vegeta, it will depend if Toyotaro and co. want to give him the win. If I'm not mistaken, they were talking about "someone's technique being necessary to win" in the leaks.

The line was just damnit


As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

[SupremeKai25]

The line was just damnit

As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

No yeah I know the line "What a dick!" was changed, the important part is when Goku urges Vegeta to kill Black. That's my point. Goku really doesn't want to kill Moro, even though a few arcs prior he was urging Vegeta to kill a beaten and suffering enemy.

[Matches Malone]

As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

They have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.

[Matches Malone]

Goku really doesn't want to kill Moro, even though a few arcs prior he was urging Vegeta to kill a beaten and suffering enemy.

Black also did nothing close to what Moro's done, but Goku was smart enough to know what needed to be done.

[Femme Fatale Kikaza]

As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

They have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.

I just hope that Vegeta can do it, because spirit fissioning a planet instead of a person might be really tricky.

[Matches Malone]

I just hope that Vegeta can do it, because spirit fissioning a planet instead of a person might be really tricky.

It might be easier as he won't have to try and catch him, he can put his hands anywhere on the planet and do whatever's needed.

[Kinokima]

As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

They have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.

Sure it’s something he can do but it’s not the only way to end the chapter. It’s also predictable and DB seems to love twists endings over predictability

I guess we will see

[OLKv3]

Boy I can't wait to see what Boo does.

[Lord Beerus]

As for the last part about someone’s technique being necessary to win that sounded like just speculation to me

They have to separate him unless they want to kill earth goodbye, which is something Vegeta can only do.

Sure it’s something he can do but it’s not the only way to end the chapter. It’s also predictable and DB seems to love twists endings over predictability

I guess we will see

Honestly, sometimes a simple and predictable ending can be far more satisfying than a twist ending.

[DBTurnip]

Is it me or Toyotaro can't write without ripping off Toriyama and making the characters dumb (or dumber than usual)?

'Cause the whole Moro arc feels like it's almost nothing but rehashed themes and characters being really, really, REALLY retarded?